Operation Vigilant Guard: Connect the Dots in Georgia

a reply to: FissionSurplus

"African" means likely to be Muslim.

a reply to: johndeere2020

That's a hard one to say, because I know several African Christians (typically from Nigeria and Ethiopia).

I found their choice of how to describe the person to be odd, indeed.

I just noticed THIS article said the red mercury was from Africa......another one said an "African".....oh brother, the fun with the MSM.......

Man carrying red mercury causes hazmat situation in downtown Updated: Mar 30, 2017 - 6:14 PM ATLANTA - The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are handling a hazardous materials situation at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission in downtown Atlanta. Officials confirm they received a call saying a man carried red mercury from Africa into the facility.

www.wsbtv.com...

a reply to: FissionSurplus

My point being, why would you believe it if sound was there?

You seem to find it ominous that SOMEONE has removed the sound. Yet, if there is someone masterfully hiding some evil deed by editing the sound as the span falls (obviously your implication is that it was dropped with explosives), what's to stop them from just splicing in a comforting rumble? Or obscuring any telltale sign of them by editing the visual records?

It's not so much sarcasm as not understanding why you would accept any data at all from the event. There has to be some point at which the putative group doing the sound editing could easily fake anything you see or hear. You'd also have to wonder why a military drill would intentionally destroy valuable infrastructure and not just eliminate the video altogether. Instead of editing out a split second of audio.

Military drills go on all the time. Even NORTHCOM. Especially northcom.

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: FissionSurplus

My point being, why would you believe it if sound was there?

You seem to find it ominous that SOMEONE has removed the sound. Yet, if there is someone masterfully hiding some evil deed by editing the sound as the span falls (obviously your implication is that it was dropped with explosives), what's to stop them from just splicing in a comforting rumble? Or obscuring any telltale sign of them by editing the visual records?

It's not so much sarcasm as not understanding why you would accept any data at all from the event. There has to be some point at which the putative group doing the sound editing could easily fake anything you see or hear. You'd also have to wonder why a military drill would intentionally destroy valuable infrastructure and not just eliminate the video altogether. Instead of editing out a split second of audio.

Military drills go on all the time. Even NORTHCOM. Especially northcom.

We seem to be at odds here, and I feel that you are not understanding what I am getting at, at ALL. Ominous? No, because, for God's sake, NOBODY is arguing that there was a fire and the thing collapsed. This is a fact. However.....why mess with the sound then? What is the purpose of that? I have questions, not ominous theories. I believe my questions are valid because I have yet to hear, among the various videos, that sound of that sucker collapsing. Just some local who said he was hearing 'booms'.

I find that odd. Not ominous. When things are removed from what was live feed, I find myself wondering why. Don't you? I never said it was dropped by explosives, because I don't know that...and at this point, with janky videos missing sound, I never will.

Why do you assume I don't accept facts as they happened? But, I'm sorry, I am seeing beyond March 30, 2017. I find it interesting that THAT span, out of all the spans in Georgia, and there's tons of 'em because of all the creeks and overpasses, is the main road to take two other main roads to either the north or the north east. It's now bottlenecked off......and if something bad were to happen (not that it will, I'm dealing in hypotheticals now), and a mass evacuation was ordered, they just made it darn near impossible to flee.

YES I find it odd that there was a massive drill, a red mercury 'scare', and a span of great importance in Atlanta to get out went down. YES I find it odd these things all happened on the same day. YES I find it weird that there appears to be sound editing....I don't see why, seems to me if it went boom, it went boom, so what? Why edit? I don't believe what I'm seeing is fake, not at all. I think the whole thing is weird and my gut feeling is this whole fire thing was set on purpose. The red mercury thing was part of the drill to test the ability of the city of Atlanta re: nuclear emergency.

Why was the fire set on purpose to drop the span? Who knows? Maybe to screw the city. Maybe it's a quick way to get federal funding for this bridge.

I do not pretend to have answers, but I have a lot of questions, and all I'm getting is, "if you don't accept it the official story that stuff just happens, you're going to go into a rabbit hole full of silly conspiracy theories."

Clear up the questions, and I'll be as happy as a pig in a poke. So far, nobody has.

a reply to: FissionSurplus

I would think w the huge amount of smoke comin from that fire, if there were explosions you would have seen him tnreflected in the issuance of that smoke.....

And though it was evacuated at distance, you can't tell me no one would have heard it


As to the redmercury thing, that is quite interesting to even have a drill concerning it when it's widely though to not be a real thing.....perhaps they used that term specific fiscally because it was a drill and people know it's NOT a real substance....

IE: "obviously this is just a drill because red mercury doesn't exist"

S&F, pointed out this may have been a FF first off.

So, to be along the lines of CT, maybe it's a test or deliberate tampering for wanting money funneled into the city or under the guise of infrastructure help(ends up in the pockets of high end city employees anyway). Then of course there's the whole FF to implement more anti privacy measures. Then again no word on terrorism as a conclusion. Not that it matters anymore, seems like the new boogeymen man are the citizens.

Overall; News articles have shared that city governments have been talking of what if a main arterial collapses, etc., the city will be mostly shut down in terms of normal travel. Places need to evaluate this concern, especially as in this case where explosive materials can be accessed and probably shouldn't be stored under or near a place that can collapse because of it.

a reply to: FissionSurplus

Ok. Sometimes it's tough to separate out who's worried about what on here. My question would be, was that the only video, and was there a dropout on all of them?

There could be any number of reasons for a sound dropout. Someone along the production chain could hit the wrong button, to someone on mic saying something not for tv. What do you think might be in that gap?

As for the red mercury thing, I strongly believe it to have been a part of the drill, which is why there wasn't anything more on that later.

I know it's not a popular website, but 2 articles worth looking at that give an alternative view of this event....
www.whatdoesitmean.com...

www.whatdoesitmean.com...

a reply to: Lucius Driftwood

If it was a PVC bomb, they can find out where it was purchased. All PVC pipes have bar codes on them. Unless they shave/ sand it off.

Contrary to current thinking, every event is not a conspiracy. There are still plenty of humans to make mistakes and do stupid things. In this case it was a crack user. Seems acceptable.

a reply to: Bedlam

As for the red mercury thing, I strongly believe it to have been a part of the drill, which is why there wasn't anything more on that later.

I'm still struggling with trying to identify exactly what "red mercury" is. The term refers to some sort of Russian- or German-produced nuclear material or accelerant. Mercury (II) oxide? So far as I can see, mercury (II) oxide has no nuclear applications.

Until we know what exactly was claimed to be this "red mercury," the story might as well be talking about a skyhook or paper-stretcher.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

There's a history to the term. It's got discernible roots in several projects, so in a weird way it's total bollocks whilst being also vaguely true. The story of red mercury is a distorted mangle of bits and pieces of other projects

So I live in the Atlanta metro area as well.
I also happen to do Search and Rescue and Disaster Response with Civil Air Patrol. We have worked with many of the Georgia Emergency management agencies over the years. I can assure you that planning for exercises takes at least two to three months to put together. That compounds when you involve multiple agencies and organizations. I have planned and ran small scale exercises. One of the things that we deal with when planning is how to motivate the people in the exercise and put them into as real as possible situation as we can. Typically there is a scenario that is used as a framework for the training and all of the events are tied into that narrative. When we set up an exercise there are only so many things we can do with regard to that scenario. I cant tell you how many times we have done Tornado or wild fire damage. Given that we have a small number of ideas to work with for those scenarios its no big surprise that we may be training and have a similar real event happen during our exercise.
We fly and we search for missing aircraft so most of our training involves at least one air search for an Emergency Beacon. I have been doing this for almost 10 years and I cant tell you the number of times we have had REAL emergency beacons go off during our exercises. Now all of those have been accidental activation's of the beacons (which is the vast majority of the ELT alerts) but they still went off while we had aircraft in the air listening to 121.5 mhz.

The material stored under I-85 has been there for a few years. Once it got to burning I have to imagine that heat was like a blast furnace. Then you have the fire companies hose down the bridge with cold water and its no surprise that it collapsed. It collapsed right at two expansion joints. Recall the big earthquake in the bay area back in the late 80's. The elevated highways pancaked down breaking right at the expansion joints. Heat the structure to near melting points, then hit it with cold water and fast cool it and you will get structural failure.

Now were the two incidents connected? I think its possible that the NRC situation was part of the training and somehow the story made it to the media without permission. Its also possible that the crackhead was paid by some terrorist to set the fire, and that terrorist also sent the Red Mercury clown into the NRC to sow confusion.
I dont think there is some big government related conspiracy here. The government is going to take a lot of fire from this if they dont get that highway open in a short term.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Read up on Sam Cohen, what a stinker he was.
I remember Dad talking about him and some of things he would say and do.

Buck

a reply to: FissionSurplus

here to help, man.

How did they managed to leave the cables there for so long? Even if it was pvc, that lot of material is expensive. Anyone could jump there and get something to sell later.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

In this real time account he is telling someone on the phone that he hears "booms".

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Peserc

They had a chain link fence around them but the homeless people had made a small entry into it so they could camp out there.

a reply to: kosmicjack

Heated concrete can explode. It has small voids filled with air inside of it. Also you get structure falling down its going to make a BOOM sound.

ETA: removed bogus site.







www.cbs46.com...

Atlanta Police have announced the arrest of a man they say shot a woman as she walked in the crosswalk of Atlanta's most prestigious business districts Monday morning.

Raylon Browning, 39, shot 40-year-old Trinhh Huynh, an Atlanta-area lawyer, at close range at about 7:40 a.m. The incident occurred in the intersection of Peachtree Street and Peachtree Place, according to authorities. At the time, the intersection was filled with drivers and pedestrians.

"Trinh Huynh passionately lived her life, whether as a daughter, sister, friend, or lawyer. She served the Asian American legal community for many years through GAPABA and other bar associations," posted a member of the Georgia Asian Pacific Bar Association on the organization's Facebook page.

originally posted by: Peserc
a reply to: FissionSurplus

here to help, man.

How did they managed to leave the cables there for so long? Even if it was pvc, that lot of material is expensive. Anyone could jump there and get something to sell later.

Atlanta local news is now stating the following crazy story: That all that junk has been there for TEN YEARS, after some contractor went bankrupt and left all that stuff there.....on city property......I find that amazing that it wasn't sold after the bankruptcy. The fiber optic cable and maybe the other stuff too wasn't really suitable any more, or degraded, or no longer usable with the newer technology.

The story is way out there, but hey.....this just gets weirder and weirder.

I will post link when I find where they said it. I saw and heard it on tonight's local news on Channel 2.