Do not accept the chip!

got no problem having to use cards or any other external device to handle things like buying and selling goods.
but a chip? what good would a chip do in a corpse?
beeleeve me, if the 49% who didn't take the chip needed food, we'd take it. thank god and the constitution for allowing me to be able to stockpile guns and ammo for just such an occasion.
seriously, it will never happen. at least not until the chip people win the Civil War that this will cause.

Originally posted by Lizard
How will you survive if you can not purchase any goods?

Soul, you must not have grown up on a farm.

I know farmers that could live for a very long time without ever going to town. They have milk, meat, water, faith and a gift for gab, to barter for what they need, and a resourcefulness, if they can't barter they think of something else that will work, that is unsurpassed.

Fortunately, this ole gal happens to be married to one.

You are correct in that I have never lived on a farm, unfortunately us
city dwellers would be SOL. Imagine hundreds of thousands of people refusing to take the chip.........we would have at least that many Rambo's
living in the wild trying to live off the land, how long do you think the
government would let that happen?

Originally posted by Godsent

Not necessarely death, because there will probably have some help for those people, like there is actually for the people living out of the society (homeless), food coupons, shelters...

I don't think it will be that easy for people to get government aid when they enforce the chips. I truly beleive that something is going to happen to our whole system - it's going to fall; or I should say be reconstructed. I still think that something horrible is going to happen and we won't have food stamps, etc. to fall back on and people are going to cry for the chip because you will need to survive. People are so use to comfort that people will line up to get the chip for themselves, for their families.

Me personally, I would die. There is freedom in death and with that chip you will never ever be free. Comfort is illusion. I know it is easy for me to say that now, but beleive me if something drastically horrible happens and the UN steps in or other forces and you have to have the chip to survive, hello Bible prophecy - people should get the hint and weight he options. I would die free.

Amen...........

Hmmm personnally, I would probally take the chip. But since it is based soley on electricty a small enough EMP pulse would take it out, hence rendering the device useless

Well maybe if that horriffic choice came, surely a leader would rise to inspire the people not to accept such a ridiculous choice, and start a new society, rather than just let evil win.

Becasue I am not Christian (anymore), I don't believe in God, nor the Devil, nor do I believe in "the mark of the Beast". If it ever comes down it being mandatory to get a chip, I will. I will not fight it, and I will not kill myself after I get it (IMO, if anybody does, they're just as pathetic at the Heavens Gate cult). First of all, why (except for the illogical, cult-like fear of the "mark of the Beast" reason) are people afraid of it? All it seems to be doing is making things more conveniant, like all technology does. Hair products, deodorant, soap, even water, could just as well be the mark of the beast - we all use them or have used them in the past. Just imagine being kidnapped or lost in the wilderness and having someone know where you are. Second of all, I have way too much in my life to live for to just leave it all behind and take the easy way out (death).

This site is great, but you ultra-religious people scare me sometimes (like now), and for that, you're one of the reasons I left religion, and became a member of logic.

[edit on 7/26/04 by xenophanes85]

Originally posted by xenophanes85
Becasue I am not Christian (anymore), I don't believe in God, nor the Devil, nor do I believe in "the mark of the Beast". If it ever comes down it being mandatory to get a chip, I will. I will not fight it, and I will not kill myself after I get it (IMO, if anybody body does, they're just as pathetic at the Heavens Gate cult). First of all, why (except for the illogical, cult-like fear of the "mark of the Beast" reason) are people afraid of it? All it seems to be doing is making things more conveniant, like all technology does. Hair products, deodorant, soap, even water, could just as well be the mark of the beast - we all use them or have used them in the past. Just imagine being kidnapped or lost in the wilderness and having someone know where you are. Second of all, I have way too much in my life to live for to just leave it all behind and take the easy way out (death).

This site is great, but you ultra-religious people scare me sometimes (like now), and for that, you're one of the reasons I left religion, and became a member of logic.

[edit on 7/26/04 by xenophanes85]

I am not a religious fanatic in any sense of the word but I must say that if the time really does come when government forces it's citizens to comply for it's own saftey, that is pure evil and does not deserve to rule over me.

We the people rule over government and sould not have to bow to anyone except to our respective God. (and Gods to pagans and such).

This site is great, but you ultra-religious people scare me sometimes (like now), and for that, you're one of the reasons I left religion, and became a member of logic.

[edit on 7/26/04 by xenophanes85]

I am not ultra-religious, as a matter of fact, I am not religious at all but I am a Christian. Yes, there is a difference. I am sorry that you feel that way, but it is what you feel. I am truly sad that it seems that you are angry because people have mentioned "the mark" or "prophecy" or other things to suggest "Christianity", but can you set that aside just for a moment to examine what this would really mean?

To have someone implant a chip inside of you to control - doesn't this seem a little bit like slavery to you, or have you allowed yourself to beleive that there is no such thing as slavery, or do you not care if you are enslaved for the rest of your life; and it doesn't stop there it's even deeper than that. Please put religion a side and your feelings regarding religion and really think hard about this thing because it is much more than certain people stepping up in refusal because of "religious" reasons.

Had to edit and take the italics off -
Okay, didn't work - dunno why it's doing this, sorry

[edit on 26-7-2004 by Godsent]

[edit on 26-7-2004 by Godsent]