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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG
I think we can all agree at this point that without a doubt, based upon all the reporting out there, the Nunes testimony, the Flynn leak, the [Obama] FBI wiretapping of a Trump server, NSA whistle-blowers Montgomery and Binney, and Obama's own established history of spying on opponents, allies, and reporters, it is very likely that Obama himself ordered the surveillance of Team Trump just as President Trump has claimed.

Obama Was Almost Certainly Illegally Spying on Team Trump

Nope. No one but members of the Trump Cult will say that ... here's what most people know ...

The reality is that President Trump went off on something he read or saw on Breitbart or Fox, started tweeting nonsense, probably with no more forethought than to capture a news cycle or two (because there is no bad Press for Trump). The Intelligence Community has said there was no wiretaps, Director Clapper, Director Comey, Admiral Rogers, etc. have all stated personally that there was no wiretaps ordered by Obama against Trump, and there is still ZERO evidence of anything even resembling that outlandish and divisive claim.

You missed the part where we know that the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign. tut tut.

That's because no rational person believes that fringe partisan garbage. Only the faithful.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

False.

So, you know otherwise? How do you know this?

I see you edited your post after realising your mistake. Credit for that.

Yes. I added the quotation tags to your "False."

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

False.

So, you know otherwise? How do you know this?

You could actually listen to him. It's quite easy you know.
I see you edited your post after realising your mistake. Credit for that.

Very slimey tactic for you to try to use.

His edit did not change the context of what he said.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

False.

So, you know otherwise? How do you know this?

You could actually listen to him. It's quite easy you know.
I see you edited your post after realising your mistake. Credit for that.

Very slimey tactic for you to try to use.

His edit did not change the context of what he said.

Indeed it did change it very significantly. The edit was incorrect too, so my advice to actually listen to what was said still stands, but at least there was an effort to get to the facts.

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

False.

So, you know otherwise? How do you know this?

I see you edited your post after realising your mistake. Credit for that.

Yes. I added the quotation tags to your "False."

False. You added more, but not enough.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG
I think we can all agree at this point that without a doubt, based upon all the reporting out there, the Nunes testimony, the Flynn leak, the [Obama] FBI wiretapping of a Trump server, NSA whistle-blowers Montgomery and Binney, and Obama's own established history of spying on opponents, allies, and reporters, it is very likely that Obama himself ordered the surveillance of Team Trump just as President Trump has claimed.

Obama Was Almost Certainly Illegally Spying on Team Trump

Nope. No one but members of the Trump Cult will say that ... here's what most people know ...

The reality is that President Trump went off on something he read or saw on Breitbart or Fox, started tweeting nonsense, probably with no more forethought than to capture a news cycle or two (because there is no bad Press for Trump). The Intelligence Community has said there was no wiretaps, Director Clapper, Director Comey, Admiral Rogers, etc. have all stated personally that there was no wiretaps ordered by Obama against Trump, and there is still ZERO evidence of anything even resembling that outlandish and divisive claim.

You missed the part where we know that the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign. tut tut.

That's because no rational person believes that fringe partisan garbage. Only the faithful.

I'd suggest the fringe elements are elsewhere considering that the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign.

Hmph, fringe person partisan garbage...

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a reply to: UKTruth

No he isn't. Nunes is currently praying he doesn't get kicked off the investigation for being partisan, let alone shifting the focus of it.

a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

False.

So, you know otherwise? How do you know this?

You could actually listen to him. It's quite easy you know.
I see you edited your post after realising your mistake. Credit for that.

Very slimey tactic for you to try to use.

His edit did not change the context of what he said.

Indeed it did change it very significantly. The edit was incorrect too, so my advice to actually listen to what was said still stands, but at least there was an effort to get to the facts.

Ok. Let's get to the facts.

Which member of Obama's administration ordered for the Trump campaign to be spied on?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again.

So I am going to have to call your statement .... false.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again.

So I am going to have to call your statement .... false.

Those were questions, not definitive statements...which you did not answer.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again.

So I am going to have to call your statement .... false.

Those were questions, not definitive statements...which you did not answer.

False. I did answer.

a reply to: UKTruth

If the Obama connection is the priority, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again!

Lol, probably to ask them what they know about CHIPSEC a utility for flashing back-doors into UEFI staging and boot-loaders and now in the hands of every Linux user (hacker) around the world!

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

If the Obama connection is the priority, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

So he could question Comey and Rogers again. I would have thought that was obvious, considering he said he was cancelling one meeting to make way for Comey and Rogers... You don't seem to have actually read or listened to what he said. I encourage you to do so.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again.

So I am going to have to call your statement .... false.

Those were questions, not definitive statements...which you did not answer.

False. I did answer.

You did not answer why he canceled the meeting or why Manafort is going to talk to the committee.

a reply to: UKTruth

The meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates was to not be about Obama spying? Not to be about the leaks?
rickwells.us...

Sounds like important testimony.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth

the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign

He is?
If that's the case, why did he cancel the meeting with Clapper, Brennan, and Yates?

Why is Manafort going to be talking to the committee?

Actually the next meeting - you know the prioritised one - is with Comey and Rogers again.

So I am going to have to call your statement .... false.

Those were questions, not definitive statements...which you did not answer.

False. I did answer.

You did not answer why he canceled the meeting or why Manafort is going to talk to the committee.

Manafort offered to come in and the hearing has not been prioritised. Like i said the priority is Comey and Rogers again, which actually answers both 'questions'.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG
I think we can all agree at this point that without a doubt, based upon all the reporting out there, the Nunes testimony, the Flynn leak, the [Obama] FBI wiretapping of a Trump server, NSA whistle-blowers Montgomery and Binney, and Obama's own established history of spying on opponents, allies, and reporters, it is very likely that Obama himself ordered the surveillance of Team Trump just as President Trump has claimed.

Obama Was Almost Certainly Illegally Spying on Team Trump

Nope. No one but members of the Trump Cult will say that ... here's what most people know ...

The reality is that President Trump went off on something he read or saw on Breitbart or Fox, started tweeting nonsense, probably with no more forethought than to capture a news cycle or two (because there is no bad Press for Trump). The Intelligence Community has said there was no wiretaps, Director Clapper, Director Comey, Admiral Rogers, etc. have all stated personally that there was no wiretaps ordered by Obama against Trump, and there is still ZERO evidence of anything even resembling that outlandish and divisive claim.

You missed the part where we know that the Obama administration was spying on the Trump campaign. tut tut.

That's because no rational person believes that fringe partisan garbage. Only the faithful.

I'd suggest the fringe elements are elsewhere considering that the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee is now prioritising the investigation onto the specifics of how the Obama Administration was spying on the Trump campaign.

The fringe elements are right in front of us, repeating specious ridiculous bull ca-ca about spying.

The reality is that multiple Trump operatives have been under investigation by the FBI or are part of an investigation. We also know that there is a seeming connection to investigations into Russian hacking and interference in our General Election process. We also know that Nunes is an errand boy for President Trump and has lost all credibility as a Committee Chairman, a Congressman and really a man of his own. He's a Trump surrogate and nothing more.