Sara Carter Is Back And She Lets On That Trump Wiretap Traces To The top

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

How about we make a wager. 1 year of no ATS for the loser. If Flynn is charged with a felony relating to his role in the lead up to and first month of the Trump presidency I will not post here for 1 year.

If Flynn is not charged with a felony relating to his role in the lead up to and first month of the Trump presidency you don't post here for 1 year.

Agree? What's the timeline for charges, by the end of 2017?

Who cares about Flynn? He's a bit player you want to distract with.

Let's do this.

If Barack Obama is charged with illegal surveillance of Donald Trump or the Trump Campaign I will leave ATS forever.

If Barack Obama isn't charged with illegal surveillance of Trump or the Trump Campaign you will leave ATS forever.

Let's not mess with the small fish or half-measures, eh?

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

But it was leaked during the Trump Tyranny ...

originally posted by: Phage

In the meantime, it will be good if they can also find out more about Russian attempts to influence the election.

I have no problem with that. The dreaded Russians have been messing around with our elections and everything else (just like the Chi-comms) for decades.

a reply to: Gryphon66

LOL, I like how you flipped the roles. I'll bet Obama won't be charged. You're the one that believes this Russian conspiracy crap. I believe Obama spied on trump, ordered it through back channels, and passed information along to the Clinton campaign. And even if they had video of that every step of the way he wouldn't face charges.

But my offer on Flynn still stands. 1 year.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

But it was leaked during the Trump Tyranny ...

Wrong. It was leaked by Obamanistas. That is an indisputable fact.

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

But it was leaked during the Trump Tyranny ...

Wrong. It was leaked by Obamanistas. That is an indisputable fact.

How do you know it wasn't leaked by a TrumpTrooper?

Where's your proof?

Couldn't be. A Trump Trooper wouldn't care that Flynn lied to the VP.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

LOL, I like how you flipped the roles. I'll bet Obama won't be charged. You're the one that believes this Russian conspiracy crap. I believe Obama spied on trump, ordered it through back channels, and passed information along to the Clinton campaign. And even if they had video of that every step of the way he wouldn't face charges.

But my offer on Flynn still stands. 1 year.

Ah, so you only want to bet on the insignificant?

LOL. It's okay. A lot of folks don't have the fortitude for big bets.

I don't believe anything. I know that the American IC has stated that the Russians hacked the DNC and others and attempted to influence the General Election. I have posited based on the evidence that Trump and his cronies are so deep in the Russian's pockets that when it all comes out there won't be a single one of you TrumpTrain riders that's not bursting to jump off and try to claim you always doubted him.

But Trump wont' see jail either. Pence will do a Ford and pardon him.

a reply to: Phage

How about a TrumpTurncoat then?

That number seems to be growing ...

a reply to: Gryphon66

Alright, no presidents are going to jail. How about this:
You bet trump will be impeached and pence will take over (by when?). I don't. 6 months of no ATS sound fair?

ETA: Impeachment, meaning not just the trial in house/senate, but full on removal from office.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

Alright, no presidents are going to jail. How about this:
You bet trump will be impeached and pence will take over (by when?). I don't. 6 months of no ATS sound fair?

I wouldn't bet that Trump will make it to impeachment.

Are you trying to get rid of me or something? LOL.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You think he'll be killed?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

LOL, I like how you flipped the roles. I'll bet Obama won't be charged. You're the one that believes this Russian conspiracy crap. I believe Obama spied on trump, ordered it through back channels, and passed information along to the Clinton campaign. And even if they had video of that every step of the way he wouldn't face charges.

But my offer on Flynn still stands. 1 year.

I have no doubt Obama personally ordered spying on the Trump Campaign. That was his M.O. for 8 years in the White House and even going back to the Senate campaign in 2004 when he spied on Ryan and outed details of his divorce.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Gryphon66

You think he'll be killed?

That's a good question.

I wish I could give you an unequivocal no.

I hope it's more likely that he will be removed from office under the 25th Amendment.

a reply to: SBMcG

Exactly. It's who obama is that makes it believable. I don't have a high opinion of bernie sanders, but you'd have a hard time convincing me he did something similar.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Alright, I'll take that.
By when?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

But it was leaked during the Trump Tyranny ...

Wrong. It was leaked by Obamanistas. That is an indisputable fact.

How do you know it wasn't leaked by a TrumpTrooper?

Where's your proof?

Because no Trump staffer would have been in a position to do so.

This is not a fact in dispute.

So now we decide guilt and innocence on who we like?

LOL ... thank gods you guys don't have any real power in the world.

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SBMcG

Whomever ordered it, it was done while Obama was president.

But that's not what you said:

Obama either ordered it, or he didn't.

 

I think any reasonable person would find it completely incredulous to believe that Obama did not at least know about the wiretapping.

The word you are looking for is incredible. But you've gone from "ordering" to "knowing about." Nice.

Tell me again, who was actually being survielled? Who was being monitored? Was it Trump Tower, or the Russian ambassador?

It doesn't matter who was being surveilled by the Obama Regime. The CRIME was the leaking of Flynn's call.

So who committed that crime?

Who knows?

Someone in the Obama Regime.

But it was leaked during the Trump Tyranny ...

Wrong. It was leaked by Obamanistas. That is an indisputable fact.

How do you know it wasn't leaked by a TrumpTrooper?

Where's your proof?

Because no Trump staffer would have been in a position to do so.

This is not a fact in dispute.

Sure it's in dispute.

You don't have any evidence for your claim.