Anyone else sick of hearing how Islam is the religion of "peace"?

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: crazyewok
Anyone else sick of hearing how Islam is the religion of "peace"?

The 'fruits' demonstrate that Islam is as much a religion of Peace as Xtianity is a religion of Love!
Every focus you placed on Islam can also be equated in Xtianity.
Have you an equal problem with Xtianity, also?

Unlike nearly all of the Bible verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text

Bible verses are accepted as 'forever applicable' by the literalists and conservatives/fundamentalists. They are not 'historically constrained, just ignored when obviously BS.
I see no distinction between some Muslim spewing some Quran verse regarding the killing of gays, or some Xtian spewing some bible verse justifying his violence and persecution.
The victim is just as tortured and dead.
There is no splitting hairs here, unless, of course, one is a Xtian or a Muslim needing validation...

a reply to: crazyewok

I don't think it's so much the religion as the people themselves with their centuries-old cultural prejudices...which go largely unchallenged by the welcoming Western countries they take up residence in.

Anti white male racism is rife in the Indian/Pakistani communities - as many white males who rub shoulders with them will attest - and exhibited most clearly by their youths.

The important point here is that not all of them are Muslims, but all of them are Indian/Pakistani.

If they all were to convert to Roman Catholicism tomorrow I believe these cultural problems would still exist.

originally posted by: crazyewok
I don’t have a issue with the majority of Muslim that don’t do anything and abide by all laws.

But come on lets stop kidding ourselves. Islam is not a religion of "peace".

Does a religion of peace:

Create a caliphate that burns people alive and tortures people to death?

Fly’s planes into tower blocks.

Drives cars into crowds of people.

Executes women for rape.


Pretty much every country ruled by Islam is a violent totalitarian state with little to no personal freedom, even if rich like Dubai or Saudi Arabia they are ruled by the sword.

And to pretty much confirm my argument.
If Islam really was religion of "peace" surely one could draw a picture of Muhamad with out the fear of being killed?

Now I am not in favour of anysort of religion ban or dircet percecution. I just want the media and SJW to stop trying to kid themselves.

Right well nothing of any of which you're citing has anything to do with the religion. It has more to do with the people and the culture.
May I remind you of how easy it is to travel down the road of attributing violent acts in the name of a religion to mere violent people.
It's become a pedestrian point to make and has been easily counter-punched for quite some time.

originally posted by: crazyewok
I don’t have a issue with the majority of Muslim that don’t do anything and abide by all laws.

But come on lets stop kidding ourselves. Islam is not a religion of "peace".

Does a religion of peace:

Create a caliphate that burns people alive and tortures people to death?

Fly’s planes into tower blocks.

Drives cars into crowds of people.

Executes women for rape.


Pretty much every country ruled by Islam is a violent totalitarian state with little to no personal freedom, even if rich like Dubai or Saudi Arabia they are ruled by the sword.

And to pretty much confirm my argument.
If Islam really was religion of "peace" surely one could draw a picture of Muhamad with out the fear of being killed?

Now I am not in favour of anysort of religion ban or dircet percecution. I just want the media and SJW to stop trying to kid themselves.

Even the majority overseas hold hostile beliefs and show that type of behavior. They could shut it down, or at least attempt to. Very little resistance on the past of the majority. I deem them culpable

a reply to: namelesss

"What is the rationale behind the 'X'lam? *__-"

Well, now we know the reason behind "Xtians".....just another secular attempt at denigrating Christianity just as Christmas was changed to "Xmas."......so why not "Xlam" for Islam? All you secularists don't want to be accused of discrimination do you? ....or is that the point.

a reply to: namelesss

I sense you are misinformed about the wonders of Islam compared to Christianity, probably attributed to your inability to look beyond the end of your nose. The differences between the two religions are vast and glaring and too numerous to list so I have thoughtfully provided a link that details the differences. You're welcome.

www.thereligionofpeace.com...

originally posted by: D8Tee

If you read the Koran it is quite evident that Islam is a religion of conquest.
Either through overt military conquest or internal sedition resulting in conquest by revolution/coup.
Islam is not just a religion either, it is also a political ideology. It lays out guidelines for rulers that go beyond mere spiritual belief.

I could be wrong, i just read the Koran to see what it was all about, didn't study it or nothing.

Seemed to be an instruction manual for world domination.

EUREKA

Got it in one well done!!

a reply to:crazyewok

Islam is no different from any other religion.

'Agree with me or die' is the common prerogative of all religions. Look at the Incas and child sacrifices, look at the Spaniards imposing their religion on the native south Americans, look at the British that tried to impose catholicism on the ancient australians.

Every religion will either seek revenge or will continue to disagree until every religion is wiped out.

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
99.99% of muslims are peaceful uet here you are sphewing bull#

Correction... 99.99% of muslims are not active jihadists. There is a huge difference.

But from everything I've learned recently, it appears much more likely that, in principle, 100% of practicing, devout muslims tacitly support if not downright approve of the actions of the active jihadists, because the active jihadists are simply following the basic tenets of their ideology (it isn't a religion).

Sure there are some 'casual muslims', just like there are casual christians, and it is these that might justifiably be called 'peaceful', but it is far, far fewer than the ridiculous 99+% claim that is constantly tossed around.

I note that not one of the muslim apologists here have responded to this:

originally posted by: oddnutz

I wonder why (not really, it is obvious why)...

a reply to: crazyewok

Its strange but, I don't really her this. Where does everyone hear this? The only time I ever even see it referenced, is when someone rants or one lines about "so much for the religion of peace."

So who is actually saying Islam is a religion of peace that triggers some to rant about?? For the record, no religion is the religion of peace. Not even Scientology, and especially not Judaism or Christianity. Christianity probably has the MOST blood on its hands honestly.

But either way, who keeps saying Islam is the religion of peace besides those ranting about it???

a reply to: crazyewok

The only peaceful religion is Buddhism, Christian's and Catholics act like they are, but they have killed exponentially more people than anyone. RELIGION EQUALS CONFLICT. PERIOD

a reply to: worldstarcountry
Politicans and the media like to spout it after every terrorist attack here in the UK.

a reply to: crazyewok

Time and time again Islam has shown it is not a religion of peace - it is a religion of pieces. They will literally hack anyone who disagrees into pieces.

Believe whatever god crap you want, it has no place in the modern world. Alongside greed it's the singlemost cause of most wars, cause of most hatred.

People need to stop basing their approach to life on ancient grievances, we are responsible for this world today, we are responsible for the next critical evolutionary step of stopping believing in stupid effing books.

Bill S. Preston Esquire and Ted 'Theodore' Logan said eords more true than most can imagine "Be excellent to each other!"

Religion sucks ass

Read the bible. God is a horrible mean butthurt insecure prick.

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: crazyewok
Even Jesus said don't think that he came with peace, but a sword, lol.

Actually, "sword" refers to the word of God (the bible).

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Ephesians 6:17 - And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Read the bible. God is a horrible mean butthurt insecure prick.

God created man in his image, perfect. Man was given free will. Man (er woman) ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and we've been living in sin ever since. All of the evil in the world. The curse of sin has had a ripple effect since the dawn of time. Men would rather turn away from the father than seek salvation. It's not God's fault. Like any good father, He allows us to make our own choices, but is given to anger at times. God is so horrible that he's the reason you're breathing right now, but you still would rather call him a butthurt insecure prick. Kinda arrogant, I think, considering God has given you everything you enjoy as a living human being.

Just sayin'.

originally posted by: bassman89
a reply to: crazyewok

The only peaceful religion is Buddhism, Christian's and Catholics act like they are, but they have killed exponentially more people than anyone. RELIGION EQUALS CONFLICT. PERIOD

The key word here is Catholics. I would hardly put Catholicism in the same category of Christianity. Given its pagan ways, it's as far from Christianity as Islam. While it professes to be a Christian organization, it acts as a go-between for God. Christianity, on the other hand, is a direct relationship between you and God. If you read the bible, Catholicism is not Christianity by any stretch. Idolatry, blasphemy and so on.

originally posted by: Freth

originally posted by: fencesitter85
Read the bible. God is a horrible mean butthurt insecure prick.

God created man in his image, perfect. Man was given free will. Man (er woman) ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and we've been living in sin ever since. All of the evil in the world. The curse of sin has had a ripple effect since the dawn of time. Men would rather turn away from the father than seek salvation. It's not God's fault. Like any good father, He allows us to make our own choices, but is given to anger at times. God is so horrible that he's the reason you're breathing right now, but you still would rather call him a butthurt insecure prick. Kinda arrogant, I think, considering God has given you everything you enjoy as a living human being.

Just sayin'.

If he existed, he's given us rape, genocide, poverty, starvation, disease, terminal illness and a whole host of other sickening afflictions.

No truly 'good' god would have done this. And the whole idea of free will is a cheap get out of jail free card. He could have created us will free will but without the ability or desire to do harm.

If god was a software developer he'd have been taken to court for such an awfull, flawed creation.

originally posted by: crazyewok
I don’t have a issue with the majority of Muslim that don’t do anything and abide by all laws.

But come on lets stop kidding ourselves. Islam is not a religion of "peace".

Does a religion of peace:

Create a caliphate that burns people alive and tortures people to death?

Fly’s planes into tower blocks.

Drives cars into crowds of people.

Executes women for rape.


Pretty much every country ruled by Islam is a violent totalitarian state with little to no personal freedom, even if rich like Dubai or Saudi Arabia they are ruled by the sword.

And to pretty much confirm my argument.
If Islam really was religion of "peace" surely one could draw a picture of Muhamad with out the fear of being killed?

Now I am not in favour of anysort of religion ban or dircet percecution. I just want the media and SJW to stop trying to kid themselves.

Don't kid yourselves...Every muzlim out there will shred the Constitution and embrace Sharia Law if given the opportunity...And if you don't know what their Sharia Law says, you have no business being in this conversation...

originally posted by: Iscool

originally posted by: crazyewok
I don’t have a issue with the majority of Muslim that don’t do anything and abide by all laws.

But come on lets stop kidding ourselves. Islam is not a religion of "peace".

Does a religion of peace:

Create a caliphate that burns people alive and tortures people to death?

Fly’s planes into tower blocks.

Drives cars into crowds of people.

Executes women for rape.


Pretty much every country ruled by Islam is a violent totalitarian state with little to no personal freedom, even if rich like Dubai or Saudi Arabia they are ruled by the sword.

And to pretty much confirm my argument.
If Islam really was religion of "peace" surely one could draw a picture of Muhamad with out the fear of being killed?

Now I am not in favour of anysort of religion ban or dircet percecution. I just want the media and SJW to stop trying to kid themselves.

Don't kid yourselves...Every muzlim out there will shred the Constitution and embrace Sharia Law if given the opportunity...And if you don't know what their Sharia Law says, you have no business being in this conversation...

You're wrong. That's like saying all Christians abide by the old testament (a book full of hatred, revenge and murder)

Most Muslims are peaceful, good people. The KKK dont represent Christianity. ISIS do not represent Islam.