Anyone else sick of hearing how Islam is the religion of "peace"?

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
Says the "Christian" who voted for more bombing in Syria.

1) I have never claim Christianity is a religion of peace.

2) I have not supported the bombing of Syria and I am against ME interferance. So tell me how did I vote for more bombing?

You voted conservative, and you knew what you were getting.

Maybe you're dumber than I thought and not just playing the part.

Well Trump did talk the talk (by and large) but his foreign policy is mounting up to be more of the same Pro-Zionist Pro-Saudi crap as with Obama, Bush 2.0, Clinton and Bush 1.0.

Maybe the Establishment is stopping his efforts, maybe he's just a liar, maybe they'll be a big swing around later on, since it's only a few months into his Presidency. But it's not looking good from my standpoint.

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Mikehawk

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU
a reply to: crazyewok

I actually never hear that... Iam more sick and tired of hearing NON-muslims, trying to define what Islam is or isnt...

Theyre is NO religion of peace!! Maybe the budhist religion, but NONE of the 3 big ones are peacefull, and they have ALL killed in the name of God..

If you want peace, dont join a cult - If you are tired about hearing about Islam, dont listen, and dont start threads about it..
If you want people to know what IS peacefull, then show us, dont tell, and deffinately dont tell us what is not, we learn nothing about peace by doing that.

Good post.

I think OP bit off more than they can chew with this thread. Not sure if he's ready to debate, looks like he was expecting everyone to agree with him and not call him out on his faulty thread.

I'm not going to sit here and act like Muslim extremism isn't a major issue, it's a very important issue that must be addressed. Innocent people are being killed every day in the name of Islam whether it is in the ME, Europe, Africa etc..fueling the fire with hatred isn't going to help fix things is all I'm getting at to the OP

The attacks on Europe leave me feeling sick. The attacks on the ME leave me feeling sick. This whole vicious cycle leaves me feeling sick.

It is a major issue, and the OP is just as sick of it as you and I. So i can understand where he comes from. But as you say, hatred is not gonna help anybody, and the root of the problem has nothing to do with Islam, not anymore than it has to do with other religions. Its the mindset "Them against us" we have to change, if we want peace

How are you to have peace with those who do not want peace?? How do you come to agreements with those who do not agree? How do you trust agreements with those who will not uphold their end of the agreement? How do you live among those who wish to subjugate and kill you? Will you be a slave and pay your way to keep alive under a caliphate?

Just questions to ponder....

Just because i dont attack, doesnt mean i dont deffend

When you put it like that, i really dont understand how we made it this far, without being keept alive under some sort of caliphate, as a slave - you make it sound impossible, or are you saying that is already how we live?

Slavery isnt acceptable. Perhaps to you, but I am pretty knowledgeable about slavery under Islam. The history is there to read and learn...

I never said i accepted slavery, but you have no business trying to free someone who doesnt want to be set free by you...
If you give people a better alternative, then they might accept - But if you tell people how to live, by force, your the slavemaster!

I said, if there is NO WAY to make peace, then how did we make it so far without getting overrun by muslims?
Have we been honest in those agreements you say we cant trust to make with them?

Let slaves be slaves. They know nothing else. Shouldve let Saddam remain in power. Some people need dictators. I never said to set slaves free. ANYWHERE. I tell no one how to live.. but I expect the same. I am not being afforded that. Jihadists tell everyone how to live. The alternative is death.. and they feel justified in killing you.. infidel.

There is no way to make peace with Jihadists. Ever. We have not been honest in our own agreements and playing at war in the ME.. thats why it has changed. Thats why the influx has begun into Europe. Educate yourself on what a caliphate is and how it was attempted in the past. Their playbook hasnt changed in centuries.

Soon the princes will let the gladiators fight and move out of the way... or theyll be slaves as well.

It is not that i doesnt agree with you, but it has nothing to do with muslims - All kind of humans has tried to take control of the world, and still is - not only jihadist - those are just the ones we hear about in the news

And when i say i will defend myself, you need to know, that i think it is all ok, to defend yourself against someone who tells you he is gonna take your life, why wait for him to make his move?
we just cant blame EVERY muslim, for what a few sick crazy people do, no more than we can blame ourself for what our goverments do in our name, else we are all quilty of something, including murder

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

Its not just you.. honest dear. Im not picking on you or anything.. from what youve said you can think.. you just dont have the data. Now , have you ever been in a situation where you are fighting an enemy for your life? Me? I will kill you before you make a move on me. YOull not get a hit in. I will win. Defensive positions cost too much blood. A dominant position is always where you want to be. Its much different from movies and ideas about chivalry and etc. Princes can spout about peace brokerages,chivalry and fair fights.. but its the gladiators who fight their fights.

Well then you will have to kill me. And you can tell yourself that you did it, to keep yourself save all you will. I wont judge you - But be honest, would you fell like the good guy, if it came to that?

Off-topic: My Ego tells me i would win a fight anyways though, but according to that guy, I will allways win everything

Egos are good. I wouldnt feel like the good guy ( Im a female.) but Id be alive and victorious. You wouldnt. Thats really all that matters to me. WHen there are a hell of a lot of folks like me... Jihad will be a bloody and amazing thing. Another opportunity to destroy that ideology

You see.. there are Muslims and Jihadists.. and a blurry line for some. Its not blurry. One has already told us their end game and want no peace and the other is just like the in the front door of the church to sing and out the back door to the whores type of Xtian. Theyre inconsequential. Theyre not driven to murder for their god and religion. The Jihadist is a true believer just as insane and bloodthirsty as the Crusader.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
Says the "Christian" who voted for more bombing in Syria.

1) I have never claim Christianity is a religion of peace.

2) I have not supported the bombing of Syria and I am against ME interferance. So tell me how did I vote for more bombing?

You voted conservative, and you knew what you were getting.

Maybe you're dumber than I thought and not just playing the part.

1) Labour started Iraq so they are not thevpolitical party of peace either. And may blairites wanted involvement with syria.

2) my local MP although conservative is against Syria involvement and votes against her party on that issue.

3) The only alternatives to Conservative and Labour are too far left or too far right. So didnt feel like I had a choose. If a alternative pops up to the torys let me know

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
Says the "Christian" who voted for more bombing in Syria.

2) I have not supported the bombing of Syria and I am against ME interferance. So tell me how did I vote for more bombing?

Of coarse you haven't. 99.99% of muslims are peaceful uet here you are sphewing bull#

a reply to: crazyewok

I agree with you.

I just wanted to add that humanity is savage.

None of us are immune.

The sooner we accept that fact, the better off we'll be.

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

Its not just you.. honest dear. Im not picking on you or anything.. from what youve said you can think.. you just dont have the data. Now , have you ever been in a situation where you are fighting an enemy for your life? Me? I will kill you before you make a move on me. YOull not get a hit in. I will win. Defensive positions cost too much blood. A dominant position is always where you want to be. Its much different from movies and ideas about chivalry and etc. Princes can spout about peace brokerages,chivalry and fair fights.. but its the gladiators who fight their fights.

Well then you will have to kill me. And you can tell yourself that you did it, to keep yourself save all you will. I wont judge you - But be honest, would you fell like the good guy, if it came to that?

Off-topic: My Ego tells me i would win a fight anyways though, but according to that guy, I will allways win everything

Egos are good. I wouldnt feel like the good guy ( Im a female.) but Id be alive and victorious. You wouldnt. Thats really all that matters to me.

WHen there are a hell of a lot of folks like me... Jihad will be a bloody and amazing thing. Another opportunity to destroy that ideology

You see.. there are Muslims and Jihadists.. and a blurry line for some. Its not blurry. One has already told us their end game and want no peace and the other is just like the in the front door of the church to sing and out the back door to the whores type of Xtian. Theyre inconsequential. Theyre not driven to murder for their god and religion. The Jihadist is a true believer just as insane and bloodthirsty as the Crusader.

To be honest, we could have dealt with the crazy jihadist, and everybody else who wants to enslave the world, a LONG TIME AGO, if it wasnt because, we (our leaders) had another agenda, that has nothing to do with "freeing" the ordinary people, we live in a control system aswell, just with a different ideology - but some people dont like to hear that, but it is the truth

originally posted by: Necrose
Lots of you guys are children of the witches they could not burn, remember that.
Back in the Dark Ages, Christianity wasn't peaceful ... it was actually pretty evil-ish...
I reckon every religion is the same when you get really deep down into it.

Here we're talking about today, where Mainstream Global Islam is currently as bad if not worse as Christianity ever was pretty much wherever.

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

Its not just you.. honest dear. Im not picking on you or anything.. from what youve said you can think.. you just dont have the data. Now , have you ever been in a situation where you are fighting an enemy for your life? Me? I will kill you before you make a move on me. YOull not get a hit in. I will win. Defensive positions cost too much blood. A dominant position is always where you want to be. Its much different from movies and ideas about chivalry and etc. Princes can spout about peace brokerages,chivalry and fair fights.. but its the gladiators who fight their fights.

Well then you will have to kill me. And you can tell yourself that you did it, to keep yourself save all you will. I wont judge you - But be honest, would you fell like the good guy, if it came to that?

Off-topic: My Ego tells me i would win a fight anyways though, but according to that guy, I will allways win everything

Egos are good. I wouldnt feel like the good guy ( Im a female.) but Id be alive and victorious. You wouldnt. Thats really all that matters to me.

WHen there are a hell of a lot of folks like me... Jihad will be a bloody and amazing thing. Another opportunity to destroy that ideology

You see.. there are Muslims and Jihadists.. and a blurry line for some. Its not blurry. One has already told us their end game and want no peace and the other is just like the in the front door of the church to sing and out the back door to the whores type of Xtian. Theyre inconsequential. Theyre not driven to murder for their god and religion. The Jihadist is a true believer just as insane and bloodthirsty as the Crusader.

To be honest, we could have dealt with the crazy jihadist, and everybody else who wants to enslave the world, a LONG TIME AGO, if it wasnt because, we (our leaders) had another agenda, that has nothing to do with "freeing" the ordinary people, we live in a control system aswell, just with a different ideology - but some people dont like to hear that, but it is the truth

Youre right. We didnt have to play at war and its cost too many lives and minds of our countrymen. There is slavery and there is slavery. Ohh poor me Im a wage slave to the feds.. versus Oh poor me theyve killed my family I cant do what I want or say what I want and I am in complete submission to a people that hates my existence. Option 2 isnt happening. Option 2 is the caliphate. Jihadist ideology versus every other living person on the planet.. because their understanding of Allah demands it.

a reply to: Ohanka

Trump is Obama is Bush is Clinton...

May is Cameron is Brown is Blair...

Foreign policy is dictated by Congress. Not the President.

In our case Parliament. Not the PM.


Not to mention the military industrial complex.

a reply to: crazyewok

Parliament started Iraq, and Miliband was not Blair.

You had an alternative.
Someone who is on record as refusing to go along with Cameron & Obama plans for Syria.


Well done your MP voted against the majority, you still knew she was never going to change that outcome.

My apologies but you're attacking me as well as my Faith with this thread, and other than Stars & Flags it isn't necessary.
I see through that sh*t.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Ohanka

Trump is Obama is Bush is Clinton...

May is Cameron is Brown is Blair...

Foreign policy is dictated by Congress. Not the President.

In our case Parliament. Not the PM.


Not to mention the military industrial complex.

I was quite relieved when Parliament and Congress shot down Cameron and Obama's Imperialist desires in Syria.

I thought it would herald a new era.

I was wrong, of course. Instead what they could not do through military action they do through stealth. No more invasions, now we're going to fund and arm (indirectly through our "good friends" Saudi Arabia and Israel) Wahhabi organisations.

If people were more aware to this they would demand an end to such a shameful policy, In a similar manner to how Invasion of Syria was overwhelmingly rejected. Unfortunately they are not and don't count on the Media giving it any serious air time.

Although considering most of Parliament are faceless unknown Saudi puppets who want their arms sales and oil interests secure, and the US congress has the same problem but with the added layer of Doomsday Zionist Christians, I don't think it will change in any major way in the future short of people rejecting voting along party lines completely.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: crazyewok

Parliament started Iraq, and Miliband was not Blair.

You had an alternative.
Someone who is on record as refusing to go along with Cameron & Obama plans for Syria.


Well done your MP voted against the majority, you still knew she was never going to change that outcome.

My apologies but you're attacking me as well as my Faith with this thread, and other than Stars & Flags it isn't necessary.
I see through that sh*t.

I am not going to vote for labour as I am not a socialist. Even though I might have agreed with Milliband on that one issue most the other issues I do not, and i vote based on percentage of what I agree with and not one individual policy.

As for you?
Long as you are peacefull and lawabiding i have no problem with your or the religion you practise.
Just dont call it a religion of peace.

It bothers me when people compare Jihadi's to crusaders.

Why? Well, a Jihadi is enacting his religion as set forth by the Prophet Mohammed. A crusader is acting directly against the wishes of Jesus.

One is practising his/her religion correctly, the other is not.

You can say to the crusader "you are in the wrong, it says this and this in your holy book, how does this compare to your actions?". What can you say to an Islamic Jihadi?

There is a big difference, although both are sick individuals.

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

Its not just you.. honest dear. Im not picking on you or anything.. from what youve said you can think.. you just dont have the data. Now , have you ever been in a situation where you are fighting an enemy for your life? Me? I will kill you before you make a move on me. YOull not get a hit in. I will win. Defensive positions cost too much blood. A dominant position is always where you want to be. Its much different from movies and ideas about chivalry and etc. Princes can spout about peace brokerages,chivalry and fair fights.. but its the gladiators who fight their fights.

Well then you will have to kill me. And you can tell yourself that you did it, to keep yourself save all you will. I wont judge you - But be honest, would you fell like the good guy, if it came to that?

Off-topic: My Ego tells me i would win a fight anyways though, but according to that guy, I will allways win everything

Egos are good. I wouldnt feel like the good guy ( Im a female.) but Id be alive and victorious. You wouldnt. Thats really all that matters to me.

WHen there are a hell of a lot of folks like me... Jihad will be a bloody and amazing thing. Another opportunity to destroy that ideology

You see.. there are Muslims and Jihadists.. and a blurry line for some. Its not blurry. One has already told us their end game and want no peace and the other is just like the in the front door of the church to sing and out the back door to the whores type of Xtian. Theyre inconsequential. Theyre not driven to murder for their god and religion. The Jihadist is a true believer just as insane and bloodthirsty as the Crusader.

To be honest, we could have dealt with the crazy jihadist, and everybody else who wants to enslave the world, a LONG TIME AGO, if it wasnt because, we (our leaders) had another agenda, that has nothing to do with "freeing" the ordinary people, we live in a control system aswell, just with a different ideology - but some people dont like to hear that, but it is the truth

Youre right. We didnt have to play at war and its cost too many lives and minds of our countrymen. There is slavery and there is slavery. Ohh poor me Im a wage slave to the feds.. versus Oh poor me theyve killed my family I cant do what I want or say what I want and I am in complete submission to a people that hates my existence. Option 2 isnt happening. Option 2 is the caliphate. Jihadist ideology versus every other living person on the planet.. because their understanding of Allah demands it.

Exactly, and trust me, iam happy to be a category 1 slave And would rather die than be number 2
But, being type 2, and someone told me to convert to type 1, especially if they try to tell me it isnt slavery anymore, i wouldnt exactly trust them, i would want to be free, real free - so that is our problem, they look at us, and see slaves, slaves to materialism and what not, they see us as type 2 slaves, cause thats all they know, and they learned to live like that

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: IAMNOTYOU

originally posted by: Advantage
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU

Its not just you.. honest dear. Im not picking on you or anything.. from what youve said you can think.. you just dont have the data. Now , have you ever been in a situation where you are fighting an enemy for your life? Me? I will kill you before you make a move on me. YOull not get a hit in. I will win. Defensive positions cost too much blood. A dominant position is always where you want to be. Its much different from movies and ideas about chivalry and etc. Princes can spout about peace brokerages,chivalry and fair fights.. but its the gladiators who fight their fights.

Well then you will have to kill me. And you can tell yourself that you did it, to keep yourself save all you will. I wont judge you - But be honest, would you fell like the good guy, if it came to that?

Off-topic: My Ego tells me i would win a fight anyways though, but according to that guy, I will allways win everything

Egos are good. I wouldnt feel like the good guy ( Im a female.) but Id be alive and victorious. You wouldnt. Thats really all that matters to me.

WHen there are a hell of a lot of folks like me... Jihad will be a bloody and amazing thing. Another opportunity to destroy that ideology

You see.. there are Muslims and Jihadists.. and a blurry line for some. Its not blurry. One has already told us their end game and want no peace and the other is just like the in the front door of the church to sing and out the back door to the whores type of Xtian. Theyre inconsequential. Theyre not driven to murder for their god and religion. The Jihadist is a true believer just as insane and bloodthirsty as the Crusader.

To be honest, we could have dealt with the crazy jihadist, and everybody else who wants to enslave the world, a LONG TIME AGO, if it wasnt because, we (our leaders) had another agenda, that has nothing to do with "freeing" the ordinary people, we live in a control system aswell, just with a different ideology - but some people dont like to hear that, but it is the truth

Youre right. We didnt have to play at war and its cost too many lives and minds of our countrymen. There is slavery and there is slavery. Ohh poor me Im a wage slave to the feds.. versus Oh poor me theyve killed my family I cant do what I want or say what I want and I am in complete submission to a people that hates my existence. Option 2 isnt happening. Option 2 is the caliphate. Jihadist ideology versus every other living person on the planet.. because their understanding of Allah demands it.

Exactly, and trust me, iam happy to be a category 1 slave

And would rather die than be number 2
But, being type 2, and someone told me to convert to type 1, especially if they try to tell me it isnt slavery anymore, i wouldnt exactly trust them, i would want to be free, real free - so that is our problem, they look at us, and see slaves, slaves to materialism and what not, they see us as type 2 slaves, cause thats all they know, and they learned to live like that

Youre having trouble differentiating the average Muslim and the Jihadist. We arent talking about freeing slaves to whatever.. we're talking about Jihadists and the caliphate. HUUUUGE difference. I really dont care what they see when they look at us. In the least.I dont want to press democracy or whatever that BS we were pushing over there was. I dont care what they do.
You need to read up on the history of and the current state of the caliphate.. and the goas of it concering the Mahdi. Its a religious weirdness that theyre inspired by.. a real twist. Much like the Crusaders really. Spreading xtianity my ass...

a reply to: Ohanka

And Parliament don't even get a vote on whether we arm Saudi Arabia.
I made a thread about that last year, as I was pretty pissed off.

Something is wrong with this country alright.
And it's not the peaceful majority of my Muslim brothers and sisters (to remain on topic).

A picture speaks a thousand words. 4chan has already given her the nickname "Moderate Medina".

a reply to: crazyewok

Labour weren't socialist under Miliband.
They are now under Corbyn. But that's what happens when people push too far to the right.

Same way UKIP rose when people pushed too far left.


At the end of the day, I will always call my religion peaceful, whether there are adherents who are not is what I question.

a reply to: Advantage

Let slaves be slaves

That's easily said from your invisible jail cell that we are all trapped in.

Do you think the victims of human trafficking/organ harvesting deserve to remain slaves or just the Muslims? Some of you are exposing your lack of compassion for fellow humans.

At least the other slaves know that they are slaves, meanwhile most of us are oblivious to the fact that we are also slaves to the very system we call "freedom". You may not feel like a slave but I sure do.

I was born a slave, and I didn't realize it until later in life.

Some people need dictators.

That is your opinion, try telling that to someone who's suffered under a brutal dictator.

Right now there is probably a young boy or girl having horrible things done to them in the Levant and you are implying to just leave them be and that they deserve it. Those were not your exact words but that is what I gathered from your post. You just don't care.

Are you part of the turn the whole area into a glass parking lot crowd?