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Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia

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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:09 AM
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a reply to: RobertConrad

No, actually, again you are wrong. As a child who was raised with only three family members and no extended family I first took notice of religion from my school mates. Those religious nutters were all the same. When you ask too many questions they would get pissy and throw a hissy fit.

Nothing it seems has changed. Don't presume to know what I'm thinking.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

It's hell. They play nortena in hell. I'm sure of it.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: TheAlleghenyGentleman
a reply to: RobertConrad

No, actually, again you are wrong. As a child who was raised with only three family members and no extended family I first took notice of religion from my school mates. Those religious nutters were all the same. When you ask too many questions they would get pissy and throw a hissy fit.

Nothing it seems has changed. Don't presume to know what I'm thinking.


I don't presume. You see, I know people, I've talked to tens of thousands of them.

"Nutters" is a derogatory term. It makes them less in your eyes. And I never throw a hissy fit. In fact, it was people talking to me that would do it when I answered all of their questions.

But I can understand things from your angle, whichever it is, because it is outside of true understanding. And insight slows anger, and understanding covers over transgression.

I see all of this. God can see more of it, for you see, I just can see it from my human understanding, which is far greater than yours. I do not say that to brag. Only to show, that if I can do it, which I have, God can to a far higher degree.

Can you not see?

And you are not even the only one being spoken to. And perhaps the ultimate message is not even to you.
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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: NthOther


They play nortena in hell


Awww damn it. That's what the dishwashers play at work.




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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originally posted by: TheAlleghenyGentleman
a reply to: NthOther


They play nortena in hell


Awww damn it. That's what the dishwashers play at work.




Know this. Hell is going to be done away with.

It is thrown into the second death, which is the lake of fire, which means, utter destruction. meaning there will be no more death.

Do you understand that vital truth Jehovah is sharing with you?

This truth among many others is what Satan does not want you to know.

We can see all of this.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:24 AM
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a reply to: RobertConrad


Can you not see?


It's that type of talk that freaks me out. It sounds like you're about to tell me that you are becoming! Becoming something great!!!




posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

No, it just means, can't you understand. That is all. Either you do, which means you do, or you don't, which means, you don't. Either way you are a person to be respected.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 02:55 AM
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Bit scary really, maybe Jews, Gypsies next, christians, Muslims. You
I dont particularly like JWs knocking on my door when they did and they dont anymore, thanks for listening and agreeing to leave me alone
All I had to do was ask them
I mean really, they are not bad people, just annoying at times

Where does it stop, where does Putins dictatorship stop.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: RobertConrad

remind me of the results of that letter writing campaign to hitler



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

It does at times seem that sticking with the othodox instead of the many branches makes sense; but then again the othodox ones have had their issues as well.

I think it may be in response to transparency... like people confessing crimes and well the confession is the punishment and thats where the churches close the books on it; leaving the offenders at large to repeat offend.

I personally don't see such a practice as good for society, just leaving crimes confessed but unpunished flapping around out there... especially those taking place within or against the family unit. It just leads to hidden cycles of abuse; that cause society worse problems down the line, making a note absolving and then ignoring such a thing.

While faith or belief should definitely be protected; the acts of the members against society should not have protection as they are not one and the same thing... in fact any abuse that takes place goes against what they claim to follow; so if what they are following gives them a free pass... that is criminal in and of itself. It seems that those in church administrations, would see such a thing and in good conscious report such things... of course many would say; oh it disrupts the church community in gossip... like what happened to Bill? Oh, he was excumminicated; does anyone know why? So keeping silent to avoid internal scandal is not doing a duty to the public in allowing such people to be at large in keeping such things quiet.

If that is the reasoning that Russia is undertaking such? I personally applaud them for doing such a thing.


edit on 23-3-2017 by BigBrotherDarkness because: sp.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:25 AM
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originally posted by: RobertConrad
These are exciting times to be living in.

And yes, for the hundreds of thousands who suffer persecution because of hatred, it certainly is a hard time. I too have suffered it, even false accusations, of so heinous a nature it is beyond belief. No doubt many here would not care.

But this is not for everyone. There are good people still. They are being sought out.

And perhaps you think that the ban on a peaceful people you hate is not your business, but it is. It is a litmus test.

Miners used to take canneries down into the mine with them. If the cannery died they knew it was time to get out. Because there was poison in the air.

The problem is, too many people have no idea of what is going on, and what they are witnessing.


It's a cult started in the 1800's. Adventists started their cult then too, proving neither are anything special. They even have their own special Bible, not unlike Mormons. They will knock on your door to annoy you and then if you get coerced to join them they will tell you out of the billions of humanity only a tiny number, 144000, are to be rewarded. This makes you but a servant to these unnamed special individuals or a delusional fool who thinks they are one of this select small number. In the Bible Jesus foretold that many false prophets will appear claiming Jesus is here or Jesus is there, this is just one of them to lead people astray.

When they are persecuted it is a twofold tragedy. The people fooled into their cult get mistreated and at the same time the persecution is used to justify the cult system of control. They ask, why would the devil persecute us, therefore we must be right? The people are so brainwashed that they never see the possible answer that of course the devil would persecute them, so that their beliefs that led them astray get reinforced. They themselves teach that the devil commands the kingdoms of the earth, so is it not those very kingdoms that are persecuting them? Why would the devil want to use his power to reinforce their beliefs by persecuting them? Because they are false beliefs.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

This doesn't depend on you. Really, you need to learn a lot of things.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:30 AM
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originally posted by: RobertConrad
a reply to: TinfoilTP

This doesn't depend on you. Really, you need to learn a lot of things.


Nothing to learn here that hasn't been learned before, and that history hasn't repeated many times before.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:36 AM
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One more reason to like Russia .



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:45 AM
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originally posted by: RobertConrad

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: RobertConrad

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: RobertConrad

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: RobertConrad

Don't worry, I won't let them put you in an oven.


We are not worried.

It is for your good we are doing this. You think we fear what is about to happen on the world stage?

Are you one of the 144,000?


Yes.

How did you attain that status of being one of the 144,000?

Do you get a serial number?

How do you know they're not oversubscribing the numbers and you may get there and Heaven is full?


These things are not for you to know. You ask the wrong questions to begin with.

You see. A physical man sees physical things and wants the physical. The spiritual man, the one called and chosen seeks the spiritual and longs for release to be with the great Spirit.

It is not something you can do to yourself, any more than you have the choice to being born.


Sounds extremist, yes.
Go Putin.
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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:47 AM
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originally posted by: VengefulGhost
One more reason to like Russia .


The ban won't happen. A Russian (so-called) judge will overturn it.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:53 AM
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originally posted by: RobertConrad

originally posted by: TheAlleghenyGentleman
a reply to: NthOther


They play nortena in hell


Awww damn it. That's what the dishwashers play at work.




Know this. Hell is going to be done away with.

It is thrown into the second death, which is the lake of fire, which means, utter destruction. meaning there will be no more death.

Do you understand that vital truth Jehovah is sharing with you?

This truth among many others is what Satan does not want you to know.

We can see all of this.

Crazy.

Tell me again how your religion would sooner see children die than to give them a blood transfusion?

The sooner this cult is gone the better.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 03:53 AM
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I think the bottom line is belief no matter what it is enmass can and does have a very strong and powerful effect in the world whether anyone believes in whatever it is or not.

The effect of such is very a real thing and not only effects society but affects the world as a whole as well.

When such is the case? Great responsibility to all of society and the world is imperitive; not just trying to protect ones belief thinking it more special or chosen than any other. Such a thing that powerful becomes a universal responsibility regardless of whatever affliations one may have or prefer. Otherwise it leads to extemism and in turn disruption to all of those not prone to the same belief that are also just trying to live and have a right to do so just the same.

The idea of specialism because of some chosen belief is mass delusion, and insanity... this is something history has shown and pointed to time and time again; as it is separatist by it's very nature, which equates to being a problem and a danger to others not a solution to any problems.


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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: D8Tee

JW have bad morals, they're not bad people, or at least as violent as the others.


There are over 40,000 different denomination of Christianity. And you will know we are Christians by our inability to agree on how to worship the same god. This should help explain why atheist don't believe. The number one religion in the world can't agree on god.



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posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: MacK80
a reply to: D8Tee

JW have bad morals, they're not bad people, or at least as violent as the others.


There are over 40,000 different denomination of Christianity. And you will know we are Christians by our inability to agree on how to worship the same god. This should help explain why atheist don't believe. The number one religion in the world can't agree on god.




True enough.

But again, someone has to answer as to how they can let children die for lack of a blood transfusion because of their religious beliefs, it's really the only issue I have with them. Other than that, I just see them as normal people who have fallen under the influence of a cult, abiet it a peaceful one.



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