Poland confirms 98-year-old Minnesota man was Nazi commander, seeks extradition

a reply to: JakeR777

in war -" battlefeild commissions " are common place

competancy [ and in the nazis case ideology ] coupled with the deaths of your superiors can lead to very young men - rising fast throught the ranks

he didnt even need to start the war [ or his service as an officer ] he could have been breveted up

a reply to: JakeR777

The guy is 98, if they wanted him for any crimes he may or may not have committed 80 odd years ago they should have found and prosecuted him while he was still able to stand trial.

One has to wonder why the bankers who profited from both allied and axis powers have never been held accountable for there part in the matter.

NAZI scum! Someone should just show up to his door and mercy him with a slug between his eyes. It will be magnitudes kinder than the horrors he inflicted upon innocent people so long ago for which he was never held accountable.

originally posted by: JakeR777
a reply to: residentofearth

That says a lot about you (saying you do not wish to see him face the death penalty) considering the crimes he is being accused of. I assume you would feel the same way if convicted/found guilty?

I hope you see justice for your family!

Death is not a penalty IMO, it's running away from justice. Dead people pays all debt
Living with your crimes and all these ppl's faces in your head IN JAIL - this is penalty.
My greatgrandpa which is 94 this year told me that this is too late for justice, too late for trials and human rights.
No trial, even 100s Nazis caught wont retrieve her home, cousins and brothers, her life, soil and dignity.

a reply to: Echo007

yep he probably lived a very happy and fulfilling life. unlike the people that were killed that day and their surviving family members.

there's a thing called a conscience, if he had one he wouldn't have killed people that couldn't defend themselves, or he would have admitted to it long ago.

no he just wanted to save his own ass.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Shooting a 98 year old Man on his doorstep would hardly make up for what happened.

Point of fact that would make you just as bad as the Nazis.

Just a thought.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

doesn''t suprise me,i'd expect that from you.

Is it too much to ask for us to have an intelligent conversation without the petty pot-shots? It serves no purpose.

so your fine with someone getting away with a massacre if found competent. what about all the lives that he took, or ordered to be taken? they didn't get the chance to live the rest of their lives. where's the justice in that?

No, I'm not ok with someone getting away with their crimes, but if you read the source it states that he was found to be unfit.

The German investigation was shelved after it received “comprehensive medical documentation” from doctors at the geriatric hospital in the US where Karkoc was being treated for Alzheimer’s disease that led them to conclude he was not fit for trial.

Alzheimers is a nasty condition. Let the old bastard lose his mind and die naturally.

"People are not mean, they are just lost."

Just let him alone with his thoughts. He has enough demons in his head, this I guarantee.

He will face the True Justice when he pass.

The thing is, sometimes (pardon my language) but young bastards grow old, and then they are OLD bastards.

I don't want him to have a pass on freedom, just because he is sick. I wonder if he observed the starvation of the skeletons they put in their holes in the ground. They were sick too and shown no mercy.

If he is guilty, lock him up.

a reply to: angeldoll

Also one man seems to imply that he is faking being sick saying WW2 Nazis, accused of war crimes try “to appear as weak and infirm as possible to avoid going to trial.”

Who knows if he's really sick , but if he's guilty he's guilty. He was not sick with Alzheimer’s disease when he ordered his men to massacre villages.

a reply to: JakeR777

I think for as long as he has lived, he has been punished for his actions, I'm sure before he came ill he had a lot of dark memories that probably haunted him.

a reply to: angeldoll

The thing with that through is if our respective societies were to go around incarcerating 98 year olds we would be living under a regime just as bad as any Nazi Germany.

We beat them, lets not become them.

Fact is justice in this world has a sell buy date.

That being said if there is any justice in the next verse i imagine he will get his comeuppance or karma will bite him in the arse.

a reply to: introvert

No, I'm not ok with someone getting away with their crimes, but if you read the source it states that he was found to be unfit.

and apparently you didn't read my post or comprehend what i said. here i'll post it again.

depending on his mental state and if he does have Alzheimer’s. he wouldn't be able to contribute to his own defense and not understand what was taking place. he wouldn't even understand the punishment if found guilty.

now if sane and fully aware and remembers, hang his ass.

so basically i said, if he had Alzheimer’s leave him alone, if found competent, hang him.

your reply addressed nothing even related to that. all you said was,

your words

I say leave him be and let him live out the rest of his life.

so basicly give him a pass, and let him die of old age unpunished if found competent or not.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: angeldoll

The thing with that through is if our respective societies were to go around incarcerating 98 year olds we would be living under a regime just as bad as any Nazi Germany.

We beat them, lets not become them.

Fact is justice in this world has a sell buy date.

That being said if there is any justice in the next verse i imagine he will get his comeuppance or karma will bite him in the arse.

I do see your point, of course. And Introvert's.

Maybe it is my own shortcoming, but I really can't find within myself much, if any, compassion for a Nazi.

When Alzheimer's patients are moved and disrupted, they don't usually live long. His dementia is a punishment, but doesn't compare with what was done to all the men, women and children during the holocaust.

I'll bow out. I'm starting to feel mean, and I don't like it.

a reply to: angeldoll

Its certainly a sticky wicket.

There are however plenty of war criminals out and about doing the rounds scot free that could still be prosecuted for there actions.

Chances are through they will never see the light of a court room.

I agree with you there should be no compassion for the Nazis but everything has its time and place, even justice.

What gets me is that we refuse to learn from our past historical transgressions and seem doomed to repeat them from one generation to the next.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

and apparently you didn't read my post or comprehend what i said. here i'll post it again.

I read it and understood it. I actually agree with you and my reply was in the context of him having Alzheimers.

so basically i said, if he had Alzheimer’s leave him alone, if found competent, hang him. your reply addressed nothing even related to that. all you said was, your words

So you actually agree with me. Not sure why you decided to reply in such a snarky manner if we are in agreement. Again, he was found to be unfit already.

so basicly give him a pass, and let him die of old age unpunished if found competent or not.

That is not what I said. I said leave him be and let him live out the rest of his life, considering he was already found to be unfit for trial.

a reply to: andy06shake

The guy is 98, if they wanted him for any crimes he may or may not have committed 80 odd years ago they should have found and prosecuted him while he was still able to stand trial.

iirc your from the UK right? what do you think about this guy?

A 91-year-old former teacher has become the oldest person to be sent to prison for the first time after he was jailed for carrying out a string of sex attacks on 14 boys.
Former PE teacher, 91, becomes oldest person ever sent to prison for the first time after being found guilty of string of sex attacks on boys in the 1950s, 60s and 70s

what should the cut off time be if found competent for the most heinous crimes, 70,60,50,40,30,20, years. how about age, older than 50, 60, 70, 80,90, justice shouldn't be a respecter of time.

I can't comment about the hilarity that has finally caught up with someone who committed heinous crimes?

LULZ.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

What i think is that its a shame the perverted bastard was not brought to justice long before now while he could still appreciate the gaol time handed down.

Any eye for an eye is all well and good but if that eye is blind then where is the justice to be had?

91 years old or 98 for that matter, they will be lucky if they can stand up, so lying in bed watching TV in a gaol cell as apposed to a retirement home or hospital is really just tomato tomato.