Catholic Nun Perfectly Explains the Hypocrisy of the "Pro-Life" Argument

originally posted by: Annee
Pro choice can be simply that you accept the right of an individual to make their own decision/choice. It is NOT pro abortion.

I've talked to many who are pro life for themselves, but don't believe they have the right to force that on others.

I am very pro LIVING CHILDREN.

I agree with the nun.

See that's the problem. People giving their OPINIONS on someone else's gestational status. Nobody cares what YOU or anyone else THINKS about a third party's private affairs.

Just say that you won't have abortions and relate under what conditions you'd break that pledge...or not.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?

Yes, but an egg is not a child.

originally posted by: Maverick7

originally posted by: Annee
Pro choice can be simply that you accept the right of an individual to make their own decision/choice. It is NOT pro abortion.

I've talked to many who are pro life for themselves, but don't believe they have the right to force that on others.

I am very pro LIVING CHILDREN.

I agree with the nun.

See that's the problem. People giving their OPINIONS on someone else's gestational status. Nobody cares what YOU or anyone else THINKS about a third party's private affairs.

Just say that you won't have abortions and relate under what conditions you'd break that pledge...or not.

I don't understand what you're saying.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

You're comparing a fetus to a growth.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

You're comparing a fetus to a growth.

It is a growth.

Not a comparison.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

When a women's (often poor) decisions result in many thousands of dollars of hospital bills, it's disingenuous to act like it doesn't have an affect on anybody BUT her.

Once you start calling on doctors to fix your mistakes then yes you should pay a price or have rules set in place, in my opinion.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

You're comparing a fetus to a growth.

It is a growth.

Not a comparison.

A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Yeah lol I was already contemplating the zit / boil / wart comparison.

originally posted by: corvuscorrax

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

When a women's (often poor) decisions result in many thousands of dollars of hospital bills, it's disingenuous to act like it doesn't have an affect on anybody BUT her.

Once you start calling on doctors to fix your mistakes then yes you should pay a price or have rules set in place, in my opinion.

Immaculate Conception argument.

Once again.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

You're comparing a fetus to a growth.

It is a growth.

Not a comparison.

A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.

Parasite.

You prefer that?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: corvuscorrax

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

When a women's (often poor) decisions result in many thousands of dollars of hospital bills, it's disingenuous to act like it doesn't have an affect on anybody BUT her.

Once you start calling on doctors to fix your mistakes then yes you should pay a price or have rules set in place, in my opinion.

Immaculate Conception argument.

Once again.

Poor rebuttal, little substance.

Once again.

a reply to: Grambler

We are having a discussion about what the law should be, or at least what is ethical.

I'm not having any such argument. What's wrong with Roe V Wade? If it's not broken, which I don't think it is, why fix it?

I am open to hearing all opinions, but saw a person seemingly make the claim that women should be allowed to have abortions at 9 months for any reason.

You're hearing what you want to hear. Annie doesn't think the government should be involved. PERIOD!

Personally, I agree. The Constitution has no allowance for unborn life, it should end there. But, I'm willing to compromise and accept Roe V Wades limitations on a woman's choice, for the sake of a civil society.

What about Kermit Gosnell, he not only did very late term abortions, but actually killed babies after they were born.

Kermit Gosnell broke the law and is serving time.

So there is at least one doctor that would have done it, and I am sure there would be more.

You can find someone to kill your wife too. Doesn't make it legal. What's your point?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Because you are assuming the 9 month term is not a life.

despite the fact that all science says otherwise. Its just "your belief"

So its actually you justifying slavery, because like you, slave owners didn't consider slaves people, because of "their beliefs". They were just property, just like your nine month term baby is to you.

And so like you, they felt they could do whatever the wanted to their property.

a reply to: Annee

You said it not me.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?

Yes, but an egg is not a child.

Is a fertilized egg a child?

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: windword

According to the pro-choice course of thread, mothers should get to decide to abort at up to 9 months. I mean everything in here really whether on topic or not is hypothetical.

Straw man! Learn the argument and stop putting words in peoples mouth with your imaginary hypothetical immorality! Nobody is arguing that a women pregnant with a 9 month healthy fetus can go and get an abortion because she's having second thoughts about being a parent.

yes, that is exactly what they are arguing! How much clearer could it be?

They are saying there should be NO LAWS for any reason to restrict a womans right to abortion.

I and other have even sought to clarify by saying you mean even at 9 months for any reason you think they should be allowed to abort. And they replied yes thats what they mean, NO RESTRICTIONS whatsoever.

This has been clarified at least three times, and you just act like it hasn't been said!

Aside from all arguments of morality. It's just a pathetic way to avoid responsibility for ones actions.

I don't want kids. Wonder what I DON'T DO?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

I am telling you that your belief that it should be legal for a mother to terminate a nine month term baby is wrong and disgusting, regardless of why you believe that.

I'm telling you that no one has the right to legislate a woman's body. Period!

It's no different then slavery. "I own you and your reproductive system".

Does the mother own the child's body?

The fetus is a growth inside a host.

Not a child until born and independent of host.

You're comparing a fetus to a growth.

It is a growth.

Not a comparison.

A cyst is a growth, a fetus isn't.

Parasite.

You prefer that?

You do. I prefer human being.

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Does she own her eggs?

Yes, but an egg is not a child.

Is a fertilized egg a child?

It will be.