Johns Hopkins’ Top Psychologist Releases Terrifying Diagnosis of President Trump

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

So?.... it won't change the fact that trump is psychotic.
Shooting the messenger doesn't negate the message.
And there were plenty of doctors saying this very same thing for the past year. You can take away all their licenses and lock them up in jail if you like. It still won't change the diagnoses.

It isn't a criminal offense, he will just lose his license.

I won't argue the fact that both Trump and Hillary have some psychotic issues. That seems to be a requirement of running for the office of the president, the one who is the best deceiver gets to live in the big white house on capital hill. Remember, most old mental institutions were big and white.

a reply to: rickymouse

Circumstantial logical fallacy.
The cry "but what if it was you" is irrelevant.
It's not.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

Circumstantial logical fallacy.
The cry "but what if it was you" is irrelevant.
It's not.

If I were to personally attack you here on ATS, I could be banned. It is in the rules that we agreed to. There are rules put into place everywhere.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire



DJT and I share several traits.... but i'm certified schizophrenic not a 'self-absorbed twit' like the unethical Doc from Hopkins diagnosis' Trump as being


I feel better insight with & empathy for, the POTUS after reading the Attempted Slam Article that is getting little notice as being professional


DJT is a 70 YO 'Boomer'...he conducts his life elegantly ... plus he doesn't seem-2-mind cleaning up the stains from his predecessor

a reply to: pteridine

The decade of Mad Men. Everybody screwed. Everybody looked the other way .
And women were chattel and prizes not equals. Better that all of this goes into the history books. Like the pillory and the guillotine. Not to be pulled out except to examine them as abnormal abhorrent behavior.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Apparently not as unlikable as you think considering he won, he is definitely a polarizing figure. Hillary on the other hand could've might as well been a cardboard cut-out and nothing would really change about her.. Bernie was cool though, too bad he wasn't "allowed" to win

A Director of Neurosurgery at John Hopkins remarked "the Pyramids were used to store grain".

I'm not sure credentials and bona fides are all they are cracked up to be any more.

originally posted by: St Udio
DJT is a 70 YO 'Boomer'...he conducts his life elegantly ... plus he doesn't seem-2-mind cleaning up the stains from his predecessor

So am I a 70 YO 'Boomer".

And NO, he does not conduct his life elegantly?

Clean Up? Yeah, that's what his lawyers do every time he messes up. Which is often.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

My question today is simple. Just how long will the Republican Congress allow this madness to go on?

8 yrs, then they will beg Trump to stay.

That I seriously doubt. The Republican agendas are being set in motion as we speak, while they are blanked by the cover of his bombasticness. Once the ball is sufficiently rolling, which I think will be well short of 8 years, they will find the right excuse to escort him respectfully from office.

yep. 8 yrs.

a reply to: Annee

Sorry off topic, are you really 70?

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

My question today is simple. Just how long will the Republican Congress allow this madness to go on?

As long as they think they can get what they want and still call this America

And when they realize they've lost the reins? Too late

Understanding Stalin
Russian archives reveal that he was no madman, but a very smart and implacably rational ideologue.

And in its way, the idea of Stalin as a rational and extremely intelligent man, bolstered by an ideology sufficiently powerful to justify the deaths of many millions of people, is even more terrifying. It means we might want to take more seriously the pronouncements of the Russian politicians who have lately argued for the use of nuclear weapons against the Baltic states, or of the ISIS leaders who call for the deaths of all Christians and Jews. Just because their language sounds strange to us doesn’t mean that they, and those who follow them, don’t find it compelling, or that they won’t pursue their logic to its ultimate conclusion.

Emphasis mine

Questioning his sanity (or, Bannon's) gets us nowhere. Treating all this as if it's real and true is our only option right now

Asking the GOP to consider how far is too far is where we're all at

Sorry to be off topic, but I learned this last night and it truly amazed me.

Did you know that Johns Hopkins ( yes the very one who's hospital / University is in his name ) used to own a grocery store, and would accept moonshine as payment.

Because he then took that moonshine and rebranded it and marked the price up considerably and made as the host of the show said " a gazillion dollars ".

He took that money and invested it into 15,000 shares of B&O railroad...

Talk about seeing the writing on the wall and being in the right place at the right time.

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Back on topic

I think it's rather unprofessional to say negative public things about a current sitting president, especially medical information whether it's true or not, I thought we have some sort of laws governing the spreading of personal medical info?

Also, it's slander if untrue.

SLANDER:
n. oral defamation, in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another, which untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. Slander is a civil wrong (tort) and can be the basis for a lawsuit.

I appreciate the psychology profession, this field of work attempting to understand mental health, but sometimes I think all it's doing is limiting the mind to what we can understand. See, we don't understand everything, so some things are unknown to us. Like Rumsfeld said, there're unknown unknowns too. Anyway because we restrict the definition of healthy only to what we know, it excludes all that we don't. While this is logical and reasonable and exactly what I'd do if I were myself someone of merit in these fields, as a person I hold my own reservations. Evolution is not a clean exact process. We're not products off the assembly line. Yet that's how we're being treated. The DSM has now 297 disorders. Just lik the ingredients list on a product, we're each being labelled. These labels, by themselves, are accurate. That's not the problem. Ultimately what this means is someday we might actually be a product on the assembly line, through many generations of labelling and management.

Again we can't embrace ignorance or all that's unknown. That's even worse. We find and employ facts because it works. Maybe what we should do is at least give people individual discretion. Right now, that's how it's, but I don't see any reason it can't or won't change. For someone like Trump, who has so much power, maybe we should wait until he makes enough mistakes to justify either classifying him unfit or impeaching him. But labelling him early on and pre-emptively removing him from power is--I think--pretentious or premature. Maybe it's correct, I'm not sure. I'd want to ensure the committee presiding over removing him from power was not partisan in any way--so being independent.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: pteridine

The decade of Mad Men. Everybody screwed. Everybody looked the other way .
And women were chattel and prizes not equals. Better that all of this goes into the history books. Like the pillory and the guillotine. Not to be pulled out except to examine them as abnormal abhorrent behavior.

Yes it was an interesting decade. Probably the best popular music, as a whole. Various social movements and assassinations of the famous. Lives were interrupted for Viet Nam. Women came into their own and were indeed professional equals in many cases. The Summer of Love and the mess of Woodstock. Sexual liberation.

It should go into the history books as a watershed decade.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: Annee
That's the most straight forward, real news, I've read in awhile.

And yet, the excuses continue.

You mean the non scientific analysis a man made on trump without ever meeting him is "the most straight forward, real news" you've heard in awhile?

I think your emotional insecurities and fears clouds your judgement rendering you incapable of acknowledging confirmation bias.

See in can do it too..

It doesn't take a professional to know what Trump is.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know." - John Heywood

. . . now you just have to figure out who this quote is addressing:

NO, I don't. No need for deflection.

"Blind who will not see . . . " -- fits many Trump supporters.

Sorry, in the spirit of the thread I provided you with and opportunity for self analysis. Accusing someone of deflection is the psychological equivalent of liberals calling conservatives "racist"

You provided me. Oh how thoughtful. This is not about racism.

". . . too blind to see . . . " -- stands on its own.

...apparently metaphor is a foreign concept also....I'm out, good luck in your world.

See pseudo apology in separate post.

Pseudo only because I'm not sure of the intent of bringing in a quote from: "Black Skin, White Masks".

Look, I accept your pseudo apology if that is what you wish. I have no idea what you are talking about with a quote from "Black Skin, White Masks," I am not familiar with the attribution and will have to Google it...my words are my own.

To clarify, I was merely trying to make the point that many times we become so entrenched in our beliefs that it is no longer possible to see the other side of an argument. For example, I think Trump is deeply flawed as a human being and yet I feel he is the perfect man at this time in our nations history; while you apparently view him as psychologically unfit to be President. I guess the flaws are what make him human, I overlooked eight years of Obama's "flaws" so now I would appreciate the same consideration.

The point the Trump haters miss is we don't care if he is bat # crazy, plays battleship on his desk or even uses sock puppets to work things out. We were so tired of Odumbo and all his rules and regulations trying to tell us how to live. Add in that the sanctimonious left disregarded the fly-overs and you get Trump.

So to sum it up, Trump is a response to Liberal know-it-alls.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

From sourced link I found the guys name John D. Gartner who made the assessment.

Also in case the name was misspelled John D. Gardner

PHD

Maybe there's another way to find his name listed in the faculty?

Malignant narcissism

It's kind of bunk/uncool to make acadamia/science fields stop having social interaction based upon a new presidency?
Rogue scientists are cool when they exhibit professional integrity.

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

To clarify, I was merely trying to make the point that many times we become so entrenched in our beliefs that it is no longer possible to see the other side of an argument. For example, I think Trump is deeply flawed as a human being and yet I feel he is the perfect man at this time in our nations history; while you apparently view him as psychologically unfit to be President. I guess the flaws are what make him human, I overlooked eight years of Obama's "flaws" so now I would appreciate the same consideration.

Yes, thank you.

Let's blame "I hadn't had my morning coffee yet" - - on the rest.

TRUCE

originally posted by: Bramble Iceshimmer
The point the Trump haters miss is we don't care if he is bat # crazy, plays battleship on his desk or even uses sock puppets to work things out. We were so tired of Odumbo and all his rules and regulations trying to tell us how to live. Add in that the sanctimonious left disregarded the fly-overs and you get Trump.

So to sum it up, Trump is a response to Liberal know-it-alls.

We don't miss that.

a reply to: Annee