Trump signs executive orders to advance Keystone XL, Dakota Access pipelines

a reply to: BlueAjah

Hopefully if they have to take anyone's land, the people are paid appropriately for it. Like over the market value.

And if each country builds their own pipes, then there's less arguing over blame if they ever leak.

This could be Trump's first and biggest mistake, you just don't mess with the water, especially Native American water....

How can Trump care about Detroit's water crisis, but doesn't care about Sioux and other tribes water supply?

originally posted by: NthOther
So Trump, the anti-globalist-establishment man, green lights the North American Union's energy corridor.

Wouldn't a North American Union only be possible after an economic collapse of sorts?

I don't think we'll see a N.A. Union anytime soon (thankfully)

This information does not say they are going to continue that area. If it does there will be a lot of people there protesting and larger protests all over the country. On top of the people who actually care about the rights of those people we ripped off, the Liberal Democrats will be there too, but not for the right reason.

Hopefully Trump does not force this issue, he will be condemning himself to a very poor term in office if he does. Our taxpayers may be paying billions of dollars plus part of the National Forests and parks in return for the governments ignorance. The Indians will win this case. They have some special rights given to them by our forefathers after they stole their land and crowded them on reservations. If you think this was long ago, you are wrong, this has been happening all along in our lifetimes, especially with oil and gas and mines.

a reply to: FamCore

Well Trump did appoint a former Exxon Mobil suit to his staff so we know where his priorities lie.

The problem is that these jobs he's nattering on about will quickly diminish because the jobs will be finite, yes it will create jobs however once this project is complete many of those jobs (excluding maintenance) will dry up over time. Fossil fuels and gas is finite which is a good reason to invest in solar power. Even though the sun is also finite it will last billions of years longer then fossil fuels and it won't hurt the planet we live on, however certain places around the globe such as tornado alley will need a backup plan.

If I was Trump I would use the funds from this project to research and distribute solar panels instead of pocketing the money (because y'know, politicians) because solar power is not up to the standards scientists claim it could be.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Jobs is not the only benefit.
Energy independence would be huge.

As for the native american water... we have pipelines all over the country. If the US builds them as Trump requested, the water will be fine.

a reply to: Phoenix

I guess it depends on what you mean by more dangerous, Trains are more dangerous than pipelines if you're talking about human casualties, but trains have spilled far less oil in the past 6 years than pipelines have.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: FamCore

He's a piece of garbage

And he's president and worth billions. What exactly does that make you then?

originally posted by: FamCore

originally posted by: NthOther
So Trump, the anti-globalist-establishment man, green lights the North American Union's energy corridor.

Wouldn't a North American Union only be possible after an economic collapse of sorts?

I don't think we'll see a N.A. Union anytime soon (thankfully)

Only energy and trucking routes. The only way a complet NAU will take place would be war....

a reply to: Phoenix

Warren buffet anyone?

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: BlueAjah

Hopefully if they have to take anyone's land, the people are paid appropriately for it. Like over the market value.

But you're forgetting greed. People always want more than what something is worth. And when it comes to government pay out, they EXPECT more.

originally posted by: Slanter
a reply to: Phoenix

I guess it depends on what you mean by more dangerous, Trains are more dangerous than pipelines if you're talking about human casualties, but trains have spilled far less oil in the past 6 years than pipelines have.

en.m.wikipedia.org...
Trains can explode ...

a reply to: FamCore

Protestors drive to the protests in the it cars, and post to social media using the petroleum based products. How would they have their precious oil moved? Seinfeld's Kramer bladder? I work Fuels Distro in the USAF for 4 years and had millions upon millions of gallons (hundreds of thousands a day), running through our pipelines. Not a single incident ever... or any other military base during my time (or any other, to my knowledge). I understand that one incident can be catastrophic, but incidents of that magnitude are about as common as volcanos erupting it seems. Additionally, it's the safest means of transporting a necessary commodity. Protestors are usually dumb.

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Who is this DNC contributor you're referring to? I ask because I'm curious, now.

Warren Buffet.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: the2ofusr1

57% huh? Not even a week in, and he's already more favorable than Obama? Say it aint so!

a reply to: FamCore

Prick in Chief

a reply to: FamCore

This after the Natives successfully stood up with protest showing that they DIDN'T want this pipeline built. Chalk up another betrayal from America on the Natives...

a reply to: Krazysh0t

there are too many to count... repeatedly breaking the treaties we made with them, stealing the lands we "allowed" them to have after kicking them off their original lands, only to discover oil/precious metals and other resources, so their land gets stolen once again and they get even crappier lands.

The natives have been screwed over time and time again. Here's another notch on that belt..

originally posted by: amazing
the other big issues is taking land, eminent domain.

Trump has always been a fan of this. Expect MUCH more of it to occur with his wall too.

It's not their property it's time to move on.