How to silence an entire block of protestors

a reply to: Navieko

There's nothing about this video that screams "needs to be watched!" to me? YouTube is lousy with this sort of thing isn't it?

- "I see signs of unity and love and peace and yet at his inauguration they were burning a McDonald's, a Starbucks..."

Who is "they" exactly? The anarchists and antifa rioters burning up the limo and smashing out windows aren't the same folks who participated in the women's march. Notice that there were 200 arrests on inauguration day and 0 arrests the day of the woman's march depsite the fact that it drew what is either the largest or second largest crowd in the history of DC protests.

- "He was elected rightfully by the majority of the country"

Well no, he wasn't elected by a majority of the people in the country. He wasn't even elected by a majority of the voters. In fact, he lost the popular vote by a large margin. As much as Trump supporters don't care — and that's their right — it doesn't sit well with people who feel like their vote doesn't matter because they live in a populated area. Particularly when it's the same party who has won the popular vote twice in the last 16 years only to have the other's candidate elected. A lot of folks like to ramble about the founding fathers but put the shoe on the other vote and you'd see the opinions flip instantly. That's a whole different thread but it's rather moot in this context because the very next line blows up the typical Trump supporter comeback:

- "What about the other half that do like him? What about them? What about their feelings? When Obama was President and he pushed his political agenda, political correctness and he pushed all his agendas, did you see people doing all this? No, because we united behind our..."

He's clearly talking about half the people. More importantly, he's absolutely wrong. The fact that the lot of you are fawning over this guys "knowledge" is a little sad. The first nationwide Tea Party protest was held in 40-50 cities on February 27th, 2009. Just a tad over a month after Obama was elected.

There was no "unifying behind our President" that's a bunch of bulls#. I can't even believe how intellectually dishonest the Obama detractors in this thread are being. You insufferable hypocrites!

- "I'm against political correctness"

Me too. Why do you think that the most popular man-on-the-street-shuts-down-libtard-protester videos feature black people? Can we be honest about how excited many Trump supporters and right-wingers in general are when they see a non-white or an LGBT person spewing conservative rhetoric? Remember Trump? Lmao. "There's my African American!"

What do either of these have to do with anything? Oh wait, it's coming...

- "Do you know why Trump couldn't get anyone to his inuguration? Because of the McCarthyism Hollywood"

That's actually quite hilarious considering that it was Saint Ronnie, FBI SNITCH, who as SAG President provided lists of names of suspected communists and communist sympathizers to McCarthy and his witchfinder general, Roy Cohn, who was of course Trump's mentor, friend and personal lawyer for 13 years.

Comparing celebrities denouncing Donald Trump to McCarthyism is ridiculous and completely ignores the historical reality of McCarthyism. In fact, it's a slap in the face to the real life people who actually suffered under right-wing witch hunts.

How much of this garbage do I need to address? The next bit about Sanger? BFD. Lots of people were eugenicists. Winston Churchill supported eugenics. Teddy Roosevelt? Supported eugenics. Charles Lindbergh? Yep. John Tanton, the man behind FAIR, NumbersUSA and the CIS? Eugenicist. He's alive. His organizations are generating propaganda that is quoted by congressmen, right-wing media and many of you right now.

Oh wait? Did "Big Ante" just drop some knowledge on you? Yes, the most influential person in the US anti-immigration movement has a documented history of support for eugenics.

These videos tell me more about the people who post them than anything else. There's nothing remarkable here. This is at best a JV debate.

Run into me on the street talking this s# and I guarantee the results won't be anything you'd want to put on YouTube.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: butcherguy
That woman was telling him that he was 'on a bike' , as if he didn't know that... and what is negative about using a bike for transportation there today? I thought the left wanted us all to ride bikes.

When a SJW goes full retard and is then confronted by a paradox (in this instance a black Trump supporter) they will link inanimate objects to degrading of social status, like she is living Facebook.

In other words, she couldn't call him a racist so her mind went into a feedback loop as she tried to be nasty to him another way.

Spot on - you could almost hear the wheels turning in her head

originally posted by: Navieko
Big props to "Big Joe" - a lot of respect for what you did.

S&F for Big Joe. What a bad-ass!!

Oh wow, that was awesome. Big Joe is the man.

That was so cool I watched it twice!

If only Bush got this much attention, when he lied about Iraq, and sending the U.S economy plummeting, leading to social unrest like a 2nd or 3rd world country has when it comes to elections. And surprisingly, the U.S is a second world country these days.

Sweet Merciful Jesus...Politics get more pathetic...Where the life ending, Apocalypse to bring people to their sense when you need one.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Navieko

There's nothing about this video that screams "needs to be watched!" to me? YouTube is lousy with this sort of thing isn't it?

- "I see signs of unity and love and peace and yet at his inauguration they were burning a McDonald's, a Starbucks..."

Who is "they" exactly? The anarchists and antifas rioters burning up the limo and smashing out windows aren't the same folks who participated in the women's march. Notice that there were 200 arrests on inauguration day and 0 arrests the day of the woman's march depsite the fact that it drew what is either the largest or second largest crowd in the history of DC protests.

- "He was elected rightfully by the majority of the country"

Well no, he wasn't elected by a majority of the people in the country. He wasn't even elected by a majority of the voters. In fact, he lost the popular vote by a large margin. As much as Trump supporters don't care — and that's their right — it doesn't sit well with people who feel like their vote doesn't matter because they live in a populated area. Particularly when it's the same party who has won the popular vote twice in the last 16 years only to have the other's candidate elected. A lot of folks like to ramble about the founding fathers but put the shoe on the other vote and you'd see the opinions flip instantly. That's a whole different thread but it's rather moot in this context because the very next line blows up the typical Trump supporter comeback:

- "What about the other half that do like him? What about them? What about their feelings? When Obama was President and he pushed his political agenda, political correctness and he pushed all his agendas, did you see people doing all this? No, because we united behind our..."

He's clearly talking about half the people. More importantly, he's absolutely wrong. The fact that the lot of you are fawning over this guys "knowledge" is a little sad. The first nationwide Tea Party protest was held in 40-50 cities on February 27th, 2009. Just a tad over a month after Obama was elected.

There was no "unifying behind our President" that's a bunch of bulls#. I can't even believe how intellectually dishonest the Obama detractors in this thread are being. You insufferable hypocrites!

- "I'm against political correctness"

Me too. Why do you think that the most popular man-on-the-street-shuts-down-libtard-protester videos feature black people? Can we be honest about how excited many Trump supporters and right-wingers in general are when they see a non-white or a LGBT person spewing conservative rhetoric? Remember Trump? Lmao. "There's my African American!"

What do either of these have to do with anything? Oh wait, it's coming...

- "Do you know why Trump couldn't get anyone to his inuguration? Because of the McCarthyism Hollywood"

That's actually quite hilarious considering that it was Saint Ronnie, FBI SNITCH, who as SAG President provided lists of names of suspected communists and communist sympathizers to McCarthy and his witchfinder general, Roy Cohn, who was of course Trump's mentor, friend and personal lawyer for 13 years.

Comparing celebrities denouncing Donald Trump to McCarthyism is ridiculous and completely ignores the historical reality of McCarthyism. In fact, it's a slap in the face to the real life people who actually suffered under right-wing witch hunts.

How much of this garbage do I need to address? The next bit about Sanger? BFD. Lots of people were eugenicists. Winston Churchill supported eugenics. Teddy Roosevelt? Supported eugenics. Charles Lindbergh? Yep. John Tanton, the man behind FAIR, NumbersUSA and the CIS? Eugenicist. He's alive. His organizations are generating propaganda that is quoted by congressmen, right-wing media and many of you right now.

Oh wait? Did "Big Ante" just drop some knowledge on you? Yes, the most influential person in the US anti-immigration movement has a documented history of support for eugenics.

These videos tell me more about the people who post them than anything else. There's nothing remarkable here. This is at best a JV debate.

Run into me on the street talking this s#. I guarantee the results won't be anything you want to put on YouTube.

Ah, I see. So the Tea Party movement was about Obama then? Talk about uninformed... Look inwardly pal. Obama faced nothing like this.
Also quite amusing that one day we hear how the protest on Saturday was like nothing we had ever seen before and then is compared to 2009 when required. Weak.

As for the majority, he was spot on. The majority of the country voted Trump. The vast majority. Something like 3 counties to 1. I guess you are still upset that no one with a brain is buying the countrywide popular vote argument, which is not part of the US electoral process, no matter how much you would like it to be.

I find your race baiting to be rather nasty. You seem to continually fall back on crying racist on the basis that Republicans treat black people they see talking sense as 'the black friend'. What a cop out argument.

Anyone running into you on the street would know almost the moment you started talking that you do not have an objective bone in your body.

As for your Margaret Sanger argument, that is just special. Other people were eugenicists, so the history doesn't mater. Kind of like a white nationalist saying that they've softened on some of Hitler's policies and they are OK now.

Oh and here is one back at you - liberals absolutely HATE when a minority person escapes their ideology. Makes it so much harder to divide.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Actually I was alluding to when armies use rape as a tool, when typically children of a useful age are used and the rest of the male population are desimated and the women are raped.

Think the Sierra Leone and the civil war.

I didn't mention culture, I didn't mention women's rights in relation to that point.

Fact is when you have 100 women from a village, that have been made to conceive. You then have a potential of 100 babies that are literally not wanted.

I don't know about you but I feel it's a humanitarian issue, when life is discarded and/or destroyed due to unwanted birth. Then we have an issue, nobody wants those children and orphans are already too common on this planet.

I mean, for goodness sake... The USA still has PLENTY of cases of babies being dumped in bins or abandoned in nefarious circumstance.

Is that ok with you?

Because I'd wish it not in the Congo, LA or London. It's wrong.

Big Joe has big balls! Fair play to him!

He's not wrong. Almost every reaction to Trump from someone who's not supporting him is a visceral one.

Visceral means "relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect"

Exactly what Joe is talking about in my mind, a lot of people have good and just causes but a lot of the time just "react". Reactions based on inward feelings and not intellect.

And we're all prone to it. We're all prone to visceral reactions to new presidents, prime ministers, leaders etc.

Let's step back a bit to W Bush. He was a bumbling retard, even you American folk knew that. From top to bottom of social classes, you knew W Bush was a bit of a douche. So when the next person is a strapping black man, it was almost impossible for anyone's feelings, especially the visceral ones, to fault him. Now the model black president is stepping down and the visceral doesn't like what it's being replaced with.

Trump is not necessarily an improvement on Obama, who was an improvement over Bush, who was an improvement on scandalous Clinton. The last few presidents, you've had a progression in "perfection". The next time this will happen will be when an openly lesbian or transgender, or what's that new one today, nonsex or something, person becomes president. Because that's never happened before, that'll be more perfect than the last thing we considered perfect - black people as president.

I spoke to my friend about Trump last night and behind us a female voice chirped out "Trump's a dick". And that sums it up really. That person could only react viscerally and nothing else. I have no problem with someone not liking Trump but like big joe says, you've got to use and rely on your brain...not just your gut reaction. Girl in the clip is doing much the same, brief, nasty jibes at big joe. She is literally personifying everything that's been noted about the libtards up to now.

Their only reaction is disgust, anger, vile language and behavior and here we have it in front of a man who's at least fairly - intelligently - making a counter argument. If nothing else, he's a fellow American of hers. What a horrible way to treat your fellow countrymen or women. It would still be horrible if it was the other way round. But that's interesting isn't it, look where the Obama administration brought you - to almost instant triggering. There are literal ticking time bombs walking the streets of USA (and much of the Western world nowadays). Some people explode into insults, others try to offer discourse. And yet we're supposed to be a more intelligent, calmer people...

Well, cool, thanks for sharing the video! Big Joe da man! It's been a fun week of people going practically insane and reacting viscerally and not with any intellect. We are capable of flushing # out, and we can flush out the anger. It may not be quick to happen but I think it's natural order that at some point, people will start to wake up that their rage achieves nothing.

a reply to: markymint

Great post. Why are you not here more often?!

a reply to: UKTruth

Ah, I see. So the Tea Party movement was about Obama then? Talk about uninformed... Look inwardly pal. Obama faced nothing like this.

Also quite amusing that one day we hear how the protest on Saturday was like nothing we had ever seen before and then is compared to 2009 when required. Weak.

How about you open your eyes and look outwardly — at the real world — a place you've clearly ignored for the last eight years:

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Shamrock6

Actually I was alluding to when armies use rape as a tool, when typically children of a useful age are used and the rest of the male population are desimated and the women are raped.

Think the Sierra Leone and the civil war.

I didn't mention culture, I didn't mention women's rights in relation to that point.

Fact is when you have 100 women from a village, that have been made to conceive. You then have a potential of 100 babies that are literally not wanted.

I don't know about you but I feel it's a humanitarian issue, when life is discarded and/or destroyed due to unwanted birth. Then we have an issue, nobody wants those children and orphans are already too common on this planet.

I mean, for goodness sake... The USA still has PLENTY of cases of babies being dumped in bins or abandoned in nefarious circumstance.

Is that ok with you?

Because I'd wish it not in the Congo, LA or London. It's wrong.

Okay. Did you have anything besides a strawman to use or...? "Think of the children!" isn't going to wash here.

And literally nothing you said addresses the primary point of why it's our responsibility to pay for it, and how us not paying for it is removing their rights. Did you want to try and clear that up or just ignore it?

The whole thing about pedo-culture in Afghanistan goes to culture in general. Our troops were told to stay out of it when it came to the pedos in the Afghan Army. So in one hand, we're telling people to stay out of the culture in Afghanistan but you're here saying it's our job to be involved in the rape culture in the Congo.

Why? The world can't have it both ways. You can't want America to fix the problems of the world and give everybody money, but then complain about America trying to fix the problems of the world and give everybody money.

The fact that you mention all the unwanted pregnancies in America really bolsters my perspective far more than it does yours. Humanitarian or not, I'm far more concerned with life on my block than I am life in the Congo.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: UKTruth

Ah, I see. So the Tea Party movement was about Obama then? Talk about uninformed... Look inwardly pal. Obama faced nothing like this.

Also quite amusing that one day we hear how the protest on Saturday was like nothing we had ever seen before and then is compared to 2009 when required. Weak.

How about you open your eyes and look outwardly — at the real world — a place you've clearly ignored for the last eight years:

Like I said - you are uninformed if you think the Tea Party was/is about Obama.
I could show you some signs from Saturday that would suggest the women's march was about climate change. It wasn't.
The primary drive behind the Tea Party, which existed BEFORE Obama was even on the scene, is Federal spending.

Try harder.

Man that was a great speech, spot on. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Navieko

There's nothing about this video that screams "needs to be watched!" to me? YouTube is lousy with this sort of thing isn't it?

- "I see signs of unity and love and peace and yet at his inauguration they were burning a McDonald's, a Starbucks..."

Who is "they" exactly? The anarchists and antifa rioters burning up the limo and smashing out windows aren't the same folks who participated in the women's march. Notice that there were 200 arrests on inauguration day and 0 arrests the day of the woman's march depsite the fact that it drew what is either the largest or second largest crowd in the history of DC protests.

- "He was elected rightfully by the majority of the country"

Well no, he wasn't elected by a majority of the people in the country. He wasn't even elected by a majority of the voters. In fact, he lost the popular vote by a large margin. As much as Trump supporters don't care — and that's their right — it doesn't sit well with people who feel like their vote doesn't matter because they live in a populated area. Particularly when it's the same party who has won the popular vote twice in the last 16 years only to have the other's candidate elected. A lot of folks like to ramble about the founding fathers but put the shoe on the other vote and you'd see the opinions flip instantly. That's a whole different thread but it's rather moot in this context because the very next line blows up the typical Trump supporter comeback:

- "What about the other half that do like him? What about them? What about their feelings? When Obama was President and he pushed his political agenda, political correctness and he pushed all his agendas, did you see people doing all this? No, because we united behind our..."

He's clearly talking about half the people. More importantly, he's absolutely wrong. The fact that the lot of you are fawning over this guys "knowledge" is a little sad. The first nationwide Tea Party protest was held in 40-50 cities on February 27th, 2009. Just a tad over a month after Obama was elected.

There was no "unifying behind our President" that's a bunch of bulls#. I can't even believe how intellectually dishonest the Obama detractors in this thread are being. You insufferable hypocrites!

- "I'm against political correctness"

Me too. Why do you think that the most popular man-on-the-street-shuts-down-libtard-protester videos feature black people? Can we be honest about how excited many Trump supporters and right-wingers in general are when they see a non-white or an LGBT person spewing conservative rhetoric? Remember Trump? Lmao. "There's my African American!"

What do either of these have to do with anything? Oh wait, it's coming...

- "Do you know why Trump couldn't get anyone to his inuguration? Because of the McCarthyism Hollywood"

That's actually quite hilarious considering that it was Saint Ronnie, FBI SNITCH, who as SAG President provided lists of names of suspected communists and communist sympathizers to McCarthy and his witchfinder general, Roy Cohn, who was of course Trump's mentor, friend and personal lawyer for 13 years.

Comparing celebrities denouncing Donald Trump to McCarthyism is ridiculous and completely ignores the historical reality of McCarthyism. In fact, it's a slap in the face to the real life people who actually suffered under right-wing witch hunts.

How much of this garbage do I need to address? The next bit about Sanger? BFD. Lots of people were eugenicists. Winston Churchill supported eugenics. Teddy Roosevelt? Supported eugenics. Charles Lindbergh? Yep. John Tanton, the man behind FAIR, NumbersUSA and the CIS? Eugenicist. He's alive. His organizations are generating propaganda that is quoted by congressmen, right-wing media and many of you right now.

Oh wait? Did "Big Ante" just drop some knowledge on you? Yes, the most influential person in the US anti-immigration movement has a documented history of support for eugenics.

These videos tell me more about the people who post them than anything else. There's nothing remarkable here. This is at best a JV debate.

Run into me on the street talking this s# and I guarantee the results won't be anything you'd want to put on YouTube.

He said as you quoted correctly..."He was elected by the majority of the COUNTRY" ....the COUNRTY... He didnt say by the majority of the PEOPLE.

Trump WAS in fact elected by a majority of the COUNTRY haven't you seen those red maps with the little bits of blue? It's called a landslide victory. It wasnt even close, Trump 304 to Hillary 227.

ETA..

By the way EVERY. SINGLE. PRESIDENT. in the last 213 years has been elected BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. Not one president has been elected by the popular vote since 1804. Not a single one. Why the fus about it now????????

Angry mob Eh! it's a shouting match, while 'Big Joe' is a set piece. In the other thread about this The OP makes it seem like a casual encounter, like Big Joe just happened along...FFS catch yourselves on.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
Today, the vast majority of people with far right, extremist, divisive, racist, and even fascist opinions, will have voted for Trump this time around, and that is just a fact.

Compared to what? Voting for Hillary? This statement really does say much other than a way to include words in your post, like racist. I can say the something with gang members who voted cast their vote for Hillary, but does it really mean anything?

The truth is the Conservative vote was very consistent with past elections without a "whitelash" or the KKK coming out of the woodwork, the turnout was actually lackluster. What lost it for Hillary is the non-vote in key states by liberals. If the same number of liberals voted this time as they did for Obama Hillary would have won in a landslide.

Well Joe, MORE than half of your nations voting public are aware that Trump is about to destroy everything that the human and civil rights movement has been about creating for the last few decades at a stretch, the women in that crowd have just had a room full of men make some very far reaching choices about how they may and may not use their body parts, and that is just in the first few days.

Like what, what civil rights is he doing away with, what is he doing with Row vs Wade? This protest started about 30 seconds after Trump hit 270.

a reply to: UKTruth

As for the majority, he was spot on. The majority of the country voted Trump. The vast majority. Something like 3 counties to 1. I guess you are still upset that no one with a brain is buying the countrywide popular vote argument, which is not part of the US electoral process, no matter how much you would like it to be.

Wtf cares if it was 3 counties to 1? What an arbitrary measure. How many of those counties were won by less than 1%? 5%? 10%? How many of those counties have populations under 50k? 20k? 10k? 5k? Are you arguing that a county with 10k people, 51% of whom voted for Trump is any way comparable to a county of 1 million in which 70% of the people voted for Clinton?

Here's where people actually live in the United States:



Here's how people voted:

I find your race baiting to be rather nasty. You seem to continually fall back on crying racist on the basis that Republicans treat black people they see talking sense as 'the black friend'. What a cop out argument.

It's not a cop out argument. It wasn't even an argument. Lmao. It was an observation and one that you can make yourself. Go to YouTube. Type the words "black Trump supporter" into the search box.

16-Year-Old Black Trump Supporter Schools Black Lives Matter Moron in Epic Debate
Black Trump Supporter Smacks Down CNN Reporter for Race Baiting
Black Trump supporter DESTROYS CNN's narrative "Voted Democrat 20+ yrs & saw no change #Blacks4Trump
Black Trump Supporters debate White Liberal RNC Cleveland, OH
Black Trump Supporter VS Black Lives Matter RNC 2016
Black Trump Supporter Destroys MSNBC Host
BLACK TRUMP SUPPORTER SCHOOLS LIBTARDS
“Democrats Is The Party Of KKK, Plantation Politics!”-Black Trump Supporter To Former Soviet
2016 Republican National Convention - Hip Hop Trump Voter Destroys Black Lives Matter
Black Trump Supporter Destroys Clinton Supporter and Mentions Satanic Ritual Spirit Cooking
Black Trump Patriot Destroys Violent Communists

That's just a few from the first two pages. Perhaps most interesting about it is how many of the videos come from Alex Jones/Infowars are associated channels (SHUTTERSHOT45 who attended seveal protests w/Infowars crew). Then you've got Mark F, the videographer for LatinosWithTrump. A lot of this is astroturfed propaganda garbage.

You can act all butthurt if you want but it's acting.

Anyone running into you on the street would know almost the moment you started talking that you do not have an objective bone in your body.

Blah blah blah. What is it about this that you think makes a good argument? Do you imagine that you're a luminary of objective thought? Lmao. Try holding yourself to your own made up standards.

As for your Margaret Sanger argument, that is just special. Other people were eugenicists, so the history doesn't mater. Kind of like a white nationalist saying that they've softened on some of Hitler's policies and they are OK now.

The obvious point was that a lot of people were supporters of eugenics. Funny, I don't hear any of you "woke" types crying about the bust of Winston Churchill being moved back into the Oval Office — or comparing Churchill to Hitler — but because Sanger founded PP, somehow that's supposed to make contraception and abortion Nazi-like.

Get a f'ing grip. Contraception and abortion aren't something that only exists in America and if wasn't PP, it would be something else. Sanger has been dead for 50+ years. PP has nothing to do with eugenics, let alone Nazis, except for desperate, spurious smears involving Sanger and her early views which were unfortunately widely held prior to WWII.

Oh and here is one back at you - liberals absolutely HATE when a minority person escapes their ideology. Makes it so much harder to divide.

"I find your race baiting to be rather nasty."

Big Joe is my new, favorite human. We need more Big Joe's. The man stood there to be berated, alone against a mass of ignorant, brainwashed windup toys. He was intelligent, courageous, respectful, and relentless in his performance. We need more Big Joe's.

And that woman ragging on his bike? How pathetic and low can you get? What was she insinuating? Since he rides a bike he's poor? A class-ist is just as bad as a racist or sexist. I'm glad she exposed herself and the breed of protesters in those same crowds.

originally posted by: markymint

Trump is not necessarily an improvement on Obama, who was an improvement over Bush, who was an improvement on scandalous Clinton. The last few presidents, you've had a progression in "perfection". The next time this will happen will be when an openly lesbian or transgender, or what's that new one today, nonsex or something, person becomes president. Because that's never happened before, that'll be more perfect than the last thing we considered perfect - black people as president.

This is more of the issue with the Democrats in they wanted to run a string of "Firsts" with Obama leading the pack of firsts. For the last two years Hillary has been the media's darling that was hands down going to win by their view. The DNC didn't even give her a run for her money with only an old socialist as a challenge and they still had to cook the results to make sure she was the one.

The shock of her not winning is big for the democrats since they been told for years she would win and the loss of not having the first Madam President is extremely unsavory for the women of the left.