Secret Socieities: The Point?

Originally posted by akilles
Really, I want the secrets without the oaths, thank you very much.

And anything new isn't new at all.

So how could Freemasonry be the only source of anything? I can do without a Worshipful Grand Master, thank you very much.

Look at all the layers of symbolism!



Yes, you are holy tool, a common monkey wrench, am I clear, WHOLLY a tool.

Well, according to your "layers of symbolism" there, you're saying that we are "holy tools" giving forth a brilliant Light. I will not be so bold as to say that I am such a tool, but we are in the presence of several who fit that description quite well, and some even with the intensity that is portrayed in your little picure there. And I'm sure the angry monkey represents our good friend Mirthful Me, who has been MIA recently but who I imagine would indeed have such a look on his face as a result of your posts. So really, the way I interpret that symbolism, you just payed a compliment.

Originally posted by akilles
Look at all the layers of symbolism!
Yes, you are holy tool, a common monkey wrench, am I clear, WHOLLY a tool.

What's symbolic about a monkey holding a crescent wrench (sometimes called an adjustable or thumb wrench) ...but NEVER a Monkey wrench...that's an entirely different tool.

But I'm sure the Monkey was unaware of this.

Originally posted by greenmansmind
I am only one
i feel as if i am an island
thou i know i am not.
as one ,by self,i brought about a great thing before a whole town..
in all the towns history 200 yrs. the entire town pulled together..
thou as a whole,the greatness faded and it became evil..
left alone i felt strong with in the group,weak.

alone i do great things for the public around me,for anyone that wants to see.i have transformed,inspired enlightened so many..with no help from a group..with out teachings..
just being an example...
the power of one,the power of silence,
to stand alone is far from being weak...very far indeed.
it has taken me great strength to feel that i am an island and to exist amonst the storms.
strength does not come from muscle or knowledge it come from the will.

What in the WORLD does all that incoherent rambling mean????

Greendude, remember: Friends don't let friends drink and post!

Originally posted by freudling

[incoherent Hitler rambling snipped]

I will say this again: somebody like me goes to the library to find answers to my questions without having some guy looking at me with a belt and metals. I think the trick is to actively ask the questions to begin with.

freudie,

Does this often happen to you? I mean do you REALLY go to the library and have some guy looking at you with a belt and "metals" ...and what sort of metals are they? Aluminum, brass, bronze, Silver, pot-metal, cast-iron? Have those metals been forged into medals perchance?

Curious as to what library you go to. I've never seen such a person in a library before...I'm sure he'd stand out.

Originally posted by akilles
Really, I want the secrets without the oaths, thank you very much.

And anything new isn't new at all.

So how could Freemasonry be the only source of anything? I can do without a Worshipful Grand Master, thank you very much.

You're welcome on both counts...but what does that post mean?

What secrets do you want without the oaths? (thank you very much.)

"anything new isn't new at all" WHAT? If it isn't, new, is it Old? If it's old it can't very well be new!?! Are you drinking and posting?

Freemasonry is the only source of Freemasonry...and that's something. So there!

and believe me, the Grand Master (that's his real title...he's addressed "Most Worshipful Grand Master...not referred to as such) doesn't want you either...so please don't petition the Order. (thank you very much)

And try to keep that bottle corked.

Originally posted by senrak

Originally posted by freudling

[incoherent Hitler rambling snipped]

I will say this again: somebody like me goes to the library to find answers to my questions without having some guy looking at me with a belt and metals. I think the trick is to actively ask the questions to begin with.

freudie,

Does this often happen to you? I mean do you REALLY go to the library and have some guy looking at you with a belt and "metals" ...and what sort of metals are they? Aluminum, brass, bronze, Silver, pot-metal, cast-iron? Have those metals been forged into medals perchance?

Curious as to what library you go to. I've never seen such a person in a library before...I'm sure he'd stand out.

Sounds like maybe a Hall Monitor or Prison Guard???

Originally posted by Golfie
Sounds like maybe a Hall Monitor or Prison Guard???

Or a Monty Python character.

OK guys, been away for a few days but the direction this thread is heading in, I'm not liking it. I will go through it further after work.

Typical for Masons to push it into that direction. They tend to get sarcastic, maybe their short attention spans. Hey, got it! That's why you guys are in a club, so people can help you concentrate on honoring the Supreme Being of your choice! My Supreme Being is Peter North, who I believe has taken human form to show us that it is OK to engage in bodily pleasures. I call him the Pleasure God, and, as my Supreme Being, I act out some of his scenes to worship him. Sometimes my girlfriend feels pain, but it pleases me! Freemasonary told me it's OK to worship any Supreme Being within the confines of sound moral priniciples. So when my girlfriend is in pain, I kindly remove the hockey stick from her xxx and we continue on worshipping! We love to worship our Supreme Being Peter North.

It's what we live for! I can't wait till the day that I get illuminated with divine knowledge. I can't wait until the next meeting! I get to wear this robe and put on a purple belt trimmed with all sorts of symbolic designs and feel it press into my gut as I sit there and listen to my brothers ramble at the lodge! Oh, did I mention I deny the holocast? But that is OK, since my Supreme Being transmitted that knowledge to me that in fact it was not real, and since I believe in my Supreme Being, and Freemasonary accepts all kinds of Supreme Beings, it's OK! Freemasonary also accepts contradictions in terms of Supreme Beings' characteristics and principles, since all members of Freemasonary are allowed to believe in a Supreme Being of their choice within the confines of sound moral principles. For instance, some of my brothers' Supreme Beings don't advocate engaging in any kind of sex whatever, so one of my missions from my Supreme Being is to convert them! I perform acts to at the lodges to entice my brothers to take on a life full of pleasure, a life as Peter North lives!

I will be a 30th degree next week and can't wait! Some overweight guy with a large beard who looks kinda like Saint Nick is going to award it to me in front of my brothers. Peter North is hopefully going to attend.

The only thing that isn't so cool is sometimes, when I mention MKULTRA, Oklahoma City bombing, Patriot Act, Bush connections to Bin Laden, evidence of US Government involvment in 911, Gulf War Illness, Liberal population reduction, Kosher taxes, Federal Reserve Bank of America, Bohemian Grove, Illuminati, Flouride, ... they just say, ad hominem attacks!.


[edit on 13-2-2005 by freudling]

Originally posted by freudling
Typical for Masons to push it into that direction. They tend to get sarcastic, maybe their short attention spans. Hey, got it! That's why you guys are in a club, so people can help you concentrate on honoring the Supreme Being of your choice! My Supreme Being is Peter North, who I believe has taken [much nonsense snipped] ... they just say, ad hominen attacks!.

So that's it huh freudie? Your intelligence level hits it's peak.

I had to do a Google search to find out who Peter North is (a porn star) Sounds right up your alley.

We're not giving up as long as people like you continue to spread lies about Freemasonry...so you might as well spread it somewhere else.

Oh, and it's Ad Hominem (not homineN) I doubt you even know what that means if you can't even spell it correctly.

Why don't you go back to your porn and leave us alone.



[edit on 13-2-2005 by senrak]

Yup, my fault, it is hominem, and it is a common tool used in an argument, as articluated by Greek philosophers like Socrates (Plato); the person guilty of making ad hominem attacks is committing an "offense" in so far as he strays away from the substance of an argument and personally attacks his opponents. Of course, whether you like the color of a person's skin or think they are a loser has very little, if any, to do with the information being focussed on.

Oh and:

Your intellignece level hits it's peak

Actually, the verb "hit" when used as above (in the second person) should not be affixed with an "s"; thus, it should read, "Your intelligence level hit its peak." Better yet, you should have used the present perfect tense, conveying, more accurately, that my intelligence level "has hit" its peak, meaning that at that time in the past when I posted said material, my intelligence level hit its peak, which is relevant to the present.

Also, are you sure that my "...intelligence level hits it is peak"?

[edit on 13-2-2005 by freudling]

Originally posted by freudling
Also, are you sure that my "...intelligence level hits it is peak"?

No. I take that back. You're not there yet.

Ad hominem attack! I have been insulted by a 32 blah blah Mason. What ever shall I do!

Originally posted by freudling
Ad hominem attack! I have been insulted by a 32 blah blah Mason. What ever shall I do!

Try this!



Apologies to Axeman who posted that first, and to Intrepid who'll likely moderate me....but it sure felt good.

[edit on 13-2-2005 by senrak]

What's symbolic about a monkey holding a crescent wrench (sometimes called an adjustable or thumb wrench)

and sometimes called much more colorful things when they slip and you
bust your !@#$%^&*()_+ knuckles.

it seems to me that you all have your head up someone elses ...
it seems to me that you are all blinded by the light and can not truly see.
please do not take this personelly..tho i am sure prhaps you will...it seems to be a weakness around here..
i am amused by all the weakness
this is just an observation
sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look just right.

I tried but couldn't do it. Any other suggestions? Also, I have made a decision "Notorious Mason", "Senrak", and whatever else you ascribe to your persons. I have decided to aspire to be someone like you. I am going to my first meeting at a lodge next week. I specifically asked to get connected with people who point out spelling mistakes and make personal insults on internet forums. The lodge secretary said no problem, and that as a bonus, I will receive a license that will allow me to arrest people who make ad hominem attacks! Great deal, huh!

I wonder what the members of your brotherhood would say if they saw the stuff you post here. Maybe they would laugh, because after all, it is worthy of that.

Originally posted by freudling
I wonder what the members of your brotherhood would say if they saw the stuff you post here. Maybe they would laugh, because after all, it is worthy of that.

They would probably ask him how he manages to keep his blood pressure at a reasonable level in the face of people who denegrate and mock the principles and ideas of his fraternity which he loves, and commend him on doing such an excellent job of defending the Craft. They probably would laugh, Senrak has a tendency to make the trolls look silly and be humorous at the same time, a good quality in my opinion.

BTW no worries Senrak, feel free to use that whenever the need arises. I'm looking for more good stuff now...

[edit on 2/13/05 by The Axeman]