Meat consumption ban is mandatory - necessary temperatures to eliminate BSE pathogens

a reply to: eriktheawful

Thanks for the link. I also posted a FSIS recall list.

a reply to: supermilkman

More gruesome pics of parasite infection

a reply to: supermilkman

originally posted by: eriktheawful
FDA: Food Recalls Nov. 2016 to Jan 2017

Looks like mostly processed foods to me.

One reason I like deer meat: I shot it, dressed it and processed it into what I want (ground up, stewed, steaks, etc).

So with this logic I can shoot a rodent carrying rabies, dress it, process it then eat it?

Sounds no different than disease-carrying bushmeat.

originally posted by: supermilkman

originally posted by: eriktheawful
FDA: Food Recalls Nov. 2016 to Jan 2017

Looks like mostly processed foods to me.

One reason I like deer meat: I shot it, dressed it and processed it into what I want (ground up, stewed, steaks, etc).

So with this logic I can shoot a rodent carrying rabies, dress it, process it then eat it?

Sounds no different than disease-carrying bushmeat.

So you're trying to say ALL meat is "disease carrying" because there's been some cases?

By that logic, ALL vegetables are "disease carrying" too, as there's been numerous cases of contaminated veggies (as already been pointed out).

Time for a short interlude me thinks. And I can't think of anything better than this....




Just look at all that cooked pig meat! And that was just my breakfast

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah it's a hoax. Basically an expression for over-exaggerating.

I'm just using the asbestos case as an example of when chemicals actually are harmful and shouldn't be over-looked.

So you're entire post is a hoax designed to make people realize that sometimes there are dangerous pathogens in meat and they should handle it more carefully?

a reply to: supermilkman

The use of tobacco leads to many serious primary and secondary smoke inhilation medical issues, cancers, deaths...

When the government bans tobacco use, then and only then will I give up my meat consumption.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: supermilkman

originally posted by: eriktheawful
FDA: Food Recalls Nov. 2016 to Jan 2017

Looks like mostly processed foods to me.

One reason I like deer meat: I shot it, dressed it and processed it into what I want (ground up, stewed, steaks, etc).

So with this logic I can shoot a rodent carrying rabies, dress it, process it then eat it?

Sounds no different than disease-carrying bushmeat.

So you're trying to say ALL meat is "disease carrying" because there's been some cases?

By that logic, ALL vegetables are "disease carrying" too, as there's been numerous cases of contaminated veggies (as already been pointed out).

Refer too my other video about African bushmeat. South Pacific Islanders are known for contracting the marburg virus from eating bats because in their culture it's a delicacy.

The American culture loves it beef, chicken, and pork (all of which I posted their health risks.) Your hunters pose just as much as a risk compared to your tribal cultures eating food straight from the wild.

a reply to: supermilkman

People are known for giving left-over food and feed to the wild-life.

One person I met threw away 3 year-old meat from their freezer and tossed it into the woods so that the deers could eat it. That's just stupid. And you can't tell these type otherwise because they're so ingrained with their beliefs.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Disease precautions for hunting
www.avma.org...

Anaplasmosis. Anaplasmosis is a tick-borne disease caused by the Anaplasma phagocytophilum bacteria (and less commonly by Anaplasma platys). ...
Babesiosis. ...
Brucellosis. ...
Campylobacteriosis (Campylobacter jejuni) ...
Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) ...
Cryptosporidiosis. ...
Deer Parapoxvirus. ...
Ehrlichiosis. - avma.org

a reply to: supermilkman

Your whole argument is "contaminated meat is contaminated and can make you sick or worse."

That happens with EVERYTHING. Meat, water, veggies, milk, air and so on.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah it's a hoax. Basically an expression for over-exaggerating.

I'm just using the asbestos case as an example of when chemicals actually are harmful and shouldn't be over-looked.

So you're entire post is a hoax designed to make people realize that sometimes there are dangerous pathogens in meat and they should handle it more carefully?

No, my post is backed with physical science. It's actual chemistry and biology.

That dihydrogen monoxide bit is just a joke. One is physical science, the other is lame attempt at social science.

Mathematics, biology, and chemistry is verifiable. Social sciences are based on assumptions.

originally posted by: supermilkman

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah it's a hoax. Basically an expression for over-exaggerating.

I'm just using the asbestos case as an example of when chemicals actually are harmful and shouldn't be over-looked.

So you're entire post is a hoax designed to make people realize that sometimes there are dangerous pathogens in meat and they should handle it more carefully?

No, my post is backed with physical science. It's actual chemistry and biology.

That dihydrogen monoxide bit is just a joke. One is physical science, the other is lame attempt at social science.

Mathematics, biology, and chemistry is verifiable. Social sciences are based on assumptions.

You do know that dihydrogen monoxide is water, right?

You do know there are MULTIPLE ways of dying because of H2O, right?

To call death by water a "social science" is laughable.

a reply to: TerryDon79

I already said in my other post that you can't have a perfect food supply. I understand germs and contaminants are going to exist no matter what.

What I'm saying is that the meat product and it's cooking procedures are not healthy.

You were raised into believing that meat is safe to eat when prepared in temperatures of 400 F in the stove or cooking until brown in a skillet. What I'm trying to say is that our cooking and sanitizing methods were NEVER at the appropriate temperatures to begin with.

a reply to: supermilkman

Yawn.

Same old argument from a few months back from another vegan.

"Meat bad! Veggies good! Ug!"

Guess what? Veggies are bad too.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: supermilkman

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah it's a hoax. Basically an expression for over-exaggerating.

I'm just using the asbestos case as an example of when chemicals actually are harmful and shouldn't be over-looked.

So you're entire post is a hoax designed to make people realize that sometimes there are dangerous pathogens in meat and they should handle it more carefully?

No, my post is backed with physical science. It's actual chemistry and biology.

That dihydrogen monoxide bit is just a joke. One is physical science, the other is lame attempt at social science.

Mathematics, biology, and chemistry is verifiable. Social sciences are based on assumptions.

You do know that dihydrogen monoxide is water, right?

You do know there are MULTIPLE ways of dying because of H2O, right?

To call death by water a "social science" is laughable.

Yeah, it's a joke. Its about over-exaggerating. You guys think I'm being an alarmist.

I'm talking about BSEs, TSEs, prions etc. Not water.

Now that I think about it our food supply is directly related to our water supply. We need to improve our water purification systems. Look at my thread "wetlands and infectious diseases."

You know some peoples bodies process the nutrients out of meat more efficiently than through supplements and vegetable substitute.

I have no problem with people making the choice to not eat meat, every person has the right to make that choice...

You are not trying to change peoples minds your trying to troll people by scaring them into a change they may or may not want.

All life is risk, stepping into the bath tub is a risk... life is disease and death, all we can do is mitigate the risk till death takes us.

Also coming from a meat eating family, by your posting nobody in my family should live past about 30... but the trend in both sides of the family is long healthy lives... eating meat, smoking cigars and drinking.

I think Ill stick to the family tradition.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: supermilkman

Yawn.

Same old argument from a few months back from another vegan.

"Meat bad! Veggies good! Ug!"

Guess what? Veggies are bad too.

My post talks about the occasional outbreaks from veggies too. I'm not pushing some vegetarian agenda.

I have given recommendations for synthetic meat (made from animal stem cells) and plant protein. This would lower the likelihood of spreading infections. Right now our slaughter houses are over-crowded and not being properly managed. Go on youtube and watch a video of a slaughter house and you'll see it's a breeding ground to sicknesses.

High human population creates higher consumption rates. Higher consumption rates means that livestock is forced to grow at abnormally faster rates then which leads into over-crowding. When factoring in ineffeciency, there is a margin of error to where infections are probable.

Ban livestock consumption, use more GMO's.

17 Toxic Fruits and Vegetables You May Be Eating Every Day

1. Apples
2. Celery
3. Sweet bell peppers
4. Peaches
5. Strawberries
6. Nectarines
7. Grapes
8. Spinach
9. Lettuce
10. Pears
11. Raspberries and Blueberries
12. Potatoes
13. Chocolate
14. Beans
15. Green Potatoes
16. Rhubarb
17. Mushrooms

Your "protein paste" is most likely made from beans. That's number 14 on the list.