Meat consumption ban is mandatory - necessary temperatures to eliminate BSE pathogens

a reply to: TerryDon79

What's your point? I'm trying to show you that BSEs/TSEs can have an incubation period of up to 50 years.

a reply to: eriktheawful

Sounds different. I might have to see if there's anywhere in Scotland I can get some.

Tried snake. I found it ok. I had it breaded and fried too and you're right, it does taste like chicken. But in my head I was like "thats snake not chicken" so my brain had mixed signals lol.

Best red meat I had was in Finland and it was Elk. Had it as a steak and the look of it was amazing. Only problem is because the fat content is quite low, you have to add juices or it turns tough as old boots.

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: namelesss

You know what diet I find works well with me?

Water, orange juice, oats, protein paste, multivitamins.

Less is more.

I think that you are Blessed to have a diet that works for you, and that you can afford.

Sometimes I pig out but then I feel gross when doing that.

Of course!
Personally, without 'pigging out', I love the vast complexities available at a good buffet!

Sometimes, rice and tea is an exquisite meal!

Bon apetit! *__-

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: TerryDon79

What's your point? I'm trying to show you that BSEs/TSEs can have an incubation period of up to 50 years.

Only in animals that are infected with BSE.

It's also no where near 50 years.
2-8 years in cattle.
1.5-6 years in humans.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: supermilkman

Who said anything about feelings, you have failed in about every possible way to articulate an argument...

You have insulted pretty much everyone in the thread with a differing view point... and tried to use shock to change people.

If I were grading this as a persuasive argument, this would be an F... I didn't see much of anything to talk up the benefits, you ignored my point that some people process the nutrients out of meat more efficiently... Just fear, smug attitude and shock seem to be all that you have in your quiver.

Hence my opinion you are just here to stroke your own ego, by telling yourself over and over how superior you are...

So cheers enjoy yourself.

No, you guys are ignoring everything I post.

originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: supermilkman

Not at all: I don't like the taste of rat.

Squirrel now, now there is a tasty treat! My son loves to squirrel hunt.

Mostly what I get from your thread is: Draconian laws of a nanny state are a good thing.

Many here, including me, disagree with that assessment. One of the most scary things to ever hear is "We're from the government and we're here to help."

Governments want to give me guidelines, I've no issues with that.

Government wants to tell me what I can or can not eat, or what I can or can not drink, they can go to hell.

Banning all meat for consumption is a pipe dream for meat haters in any case. It'll never happen. Too much demand and profit to be made.

Also, as mentioned before: meat consumption is a important niche in the environment. First has been the domestication of many animals. If you think all those cows are going to turn into some sort of wild cow that can fend for itself, you'll be sadly mistaken (maybe I should have said "misteaken"). There are some animals that have their wild counter parts (turkey and geese.....and wild turkey is another thing we hunt here, mmmm mmm! good eating), some pigs have shown to easily go back to wild boar status, however, many other meat animals will not.

Banning the consumption of meat would mean the end of hunting. For several animals that are hunted for their meat, like White Tail Deer where where I live, conservation is practiced (IE to keep them from being hunted to extinction). However, with no hunters, and leave no doubt, they've been hunted for literally TENS of THOUSANDS of years, their populations would grow....and grow.....and grow....with no where near the amount of food they would need to sustain their populations. So they end up starving and dying off.

Humans have been eating meat for around 2.5 million years now. Of course we were not like the humans of today, but it has been going on for a very long time.

If evolution decides humans will not eat meat anymore, then something will happen that will change it. I doubt very much it will be politicians and activists though.
Could be climate change. Could be a pandemic, could be a plethora of things. But I highly doubt it will because of someone with some paper and a pen.

People die from pandemics all the time. Remember the black death? It killed millions. All because of a tiny oriental rat flea.

a reply to: supermilkman

I'll say it again. Pick up a chemistry and biology book.

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: supermilkman

Mad cow disease may have 30 year incubation period
www.mercola.com...

The findings of the inquiry into a cluster of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) cases -- the human version of mad cow disease -- suggest the fatal disease has an average incubation period of 30 years and may claim thousands or tens of thousands more victims.

The inquiry report into five deaths in the English village of Queniborough, Leicestershire, blamed specific butchering methods for contamination of meat with bovine brain and estimated an incubation period of the disease between 10 and 16 years.

But Professor John Collinge, a member of the Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee (SEAC), which advises the government on mad cow disease or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), told BBC Radio: "For me the main finding from this report is that the significant exposure appears to pre-date 1985. - Mercola

Ah, Mercola. The idiot who believes Simoncini that PH cures cancer lol.

You know that Simoncini is no longer a doctor and has been convicted of MURDERING someone when "treating" them?

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: supermilkman

I'll say it again. Pick up a chemistry and biology book.

It's funny that you keep replying to yourself and saying that. It's quite fitting.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: TerryDon79

What's your point? I'm trying to show you that BSEs/TSEs can have an incubation period of up to 50 years.

Only in animals that are infected with BSE.

It's also no where near 50 years.
2-8 years in cattle.
1.5-6 years in humans.

Kuru has an incubation period up to 50 years.

The consensus is that mad cow disease has an incubation period from 2.5 - 5 years. Some sources are saying up to 30 years.

And if we were to be practical then you would know factoring in inefficiency and high consumption rates means there is a high likelihood of spreading infection.

To make things worse you got your country bumpkins running around hunting wildlife because it's a part of their heritage.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Deer meat is the same way: very low fat content.

We processed a deer a few weeks ago. 140 pounds of meat that will feed my family for weeks.

We got stew meat, steaks and ground up meat for use like hamburger, or the 20 pounds of maple flavored breakfast sausage I made from it.

And like every time: we're very careful on how we process it. If not done right, or quick enough, bad bacteria can set in and make people sick.

That's why I've very careful too of how I cure and smoke meats also. One of the most dangerous things I've done is making homemade salami. It's raw beef and pork that is dry cured with curing salts.

Do it wrong, and you could end up in the hospital with a very bad case of food poisoning.

When I tried it, the meat went bad, so trash it went. The next time I heat cured it and made a summer sausage out of it.

Raw meats are something I do steer clear of. I won't do sushi, or something like steak tartar. The meat has to be cooked, or cured and smoked.

originally posted by: supermilkman

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: TerryDon79

What's your point? I'm trying to show you that BSEs/TSEs can have an incubation period of up to 50 years.

Only in animals that are infected with BSE.

It's also no where near 50 years.
2-8 years in cattle.
1.5-6 years in humans.

Kuru has an incubation period up to 50 years.

The consensus is that mad cow disease has an incubation period from 2.5 - 5 years. Some sources are saying up to 30 years.

You said BSE had an incubation period of 50 years. You got the "30 years" from a scam artist.

Science says what I stated above, not what you and your fraud have stated.

a reply to: eriktheawful

I'm partial to a bit of venison from time to time. Never cooked it myself. Always relied on a restaurant for that lol.

I don't do raw. Rare or medium rare, but not raw. Never tried sushi either, but I'm not a big fish eater anyway.

And I agree. Anything not prepared correctly or handled right will cause problems. I'm lucky as I've never had a case of food poisoning.

a reply to: supermilkman

Yep!

Just like how Yellow Fever, Typhoid and Cholera can nail you from: Drinking water.

That's part of my point. Life is full of dangers from bacteria and virus just waiting out there.

The human body can normally fight off TB (Tuberculosis) naturally. However, if you're immune system is low, normally because of malnutrition, someone who is already infected with it can infect you simply by sneezing or coughing in your area by you in the say, the store.

And it can stay inactive in your body for a long time, until something triggers it, like getting the flu.

Life is dangerous. A person can either be afraid of life.....or enjoy it.

I try to enjoy it.

Almost 50 million pounds of frozen vegetables recalled due to listeria in May 2016:
article

10 million pounds of ground flour recalled due to E. Coli in June 2016:
article

A big long list of lots of foods recalled in 2016:
article

Including:
Nature Valley Nut Bars
Creative Snacks Nut Mix
Figi's Nature Mix
Ikea Dark Chocolate Bars
Honey Maid Teddy Grahams
Atlantic Spice Sunflower Seeds
Bolthouse Farms Protein Drinks
Lance Oyster Crackers
Choice's Own Green Peas
C&W Early Harvest Petite Peas
Dutch Treat Foods Sweet Pea Pasta Salad
Tippin's Gourmet Key Lime Pie
Kellog's Graham Crumbs used in certain brands of Cheesecake
National Frozen Foods Corp. Green Peas and Mixed Vegetables

This makes one thing perfectly clear: Vegetables are more dangerous to the human race than animal meat. We need to ban the consumption of vegetables IMMEDIATELY for the well-being of the entire human race. Everyone needs to to become accustomed to eating meat, and nothing but meat, every day for the rest of their lives. This is the only way to ensure a safe and healthy mankind.

I'm sorry, vegetarians. But you're way of life is simply unfeasible.

a reply to: supermilkman

Just writing to say thanks for the informative link...

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: supermilkman
a reply to: supermilkman

Mad cow disease may have 30 year incubation period
www.mercola.com...

The findings of the inquiry into a cluster of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) cases -- the human version of mad cow disease -- suggest the fatal disease has an average incubation period of 30 years and may claim thousands or tens of thousands more victims.

The inquiry report into five deaths in the English village of Queniborough, Leicestershire, blamed specific butchering methods for contamination of meat with bovine brain and estimated an incubation period of the disease between 10 and 16 years.

But Professor John Collinge, a member of the Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee (SEAC), which advises the government on mad cow disease or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), told BBC Radio: "For me the main finding from this report is that the significant exposure appears to pre-date 1985. - Mercola

Ah, Mercola. The idiot who believes Simoncini that PH cures cancer lol.

You know that Simoncini is no longer a doctor and has been convicted of MURDERING someone when "treating" them?

Doctors, counselors and other case workers are known for getting into lawsuit litigations all the time. In fact they're even told when getting into the field there is a high chance of getting into a lawsuit.

Customer - "I'm suing you for this hot coffee! It gave me third degree burns!"
Employee - "Coffee is hot to begin with. Maybe you shouldn't be drinking it when it's so hot?"

Malpractice suits happen ALL the time in just about every industry. That's why I don't like working with people.

a reply to: supermilkman

Yes, we are. Mostly because you've said nothing that many others, many, many others, haven't already said.

Most of us shade to the intelligent side of the spectrum, and are well aware of the "dangers" of consuming meat improperly prepared.

For myself, I'll take the chance that properly prepared meats, of whatever sort, especially ones I raise myself, are of absolutely no danger to me or mine...

originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: supermilkman

Yep!

Just like how Yellow Fever, Typhoid and Cholera can nail you from: Drinking water.

That's part of my point. Life is full of dangers from bacteria and virus just waiting out there.

The human body can normally fight off TB (Tuberculosis) naturally. However, if you're immune system is low, normally because of malnutrition, someone who is already infected with it can infect you simply by sneezing or coughing in your area by you in the say, the store.

And it can stay inactive in your body for a long time, until something triggers it, like getting the flu.

Life is dangerous. A person can either be afraid of life.....or enjoy it.

I try to enjoy it.

My wetlands and infectious disease thread talks about pure-water purification processes. We're trying to improve the system, not stagnate.

originally posted by: peskyhumans
Almost 50 million pounds of frozen vegetables recalled due to listeria in May 2016:
article

10 million pounds of ground flour recalled due to E. Coli in June 2016:
article

A big long list of lots of foods recalled in 2016:
article

Including:
Nature Valley Nut Bars
Creative Snacks Nut Mix
Figi's Nature Mix
Ikea Dark Chocolate Bars
Honey Maid Teddy Grahams
Atlantic Spice Sunflower Seeds
Bolthouse Farms Protein Drinks
Lance Oyster Crackers
Choice's Own Green Peas
C&W Early Harvest Petite Peas
Dutch Treat Foods Sweet Pea Pasta Salad
Tippin's Gourmet Key Lime Pie
Kellog's Graham Crumbs used in certain brands of Cheesecake
National Frozen Foods Corp. Green Peas and Mixed Vegetables

This makes one thing perfectly clear: Vegetables are more dangerous to the human race than animal meat. We need to ban the consumption of vegetables IMMEDIATELY for the well-being of the entire human race. Everyone needs to to become accustomed to eating meat, and nothing but meat, every day for the rest of their lives. This is the only way to ensure a safe and healthy mankind.

I'm sorry, vegetarians. But you're way of life is simply unfeasible.

I've recommended GMO's. Synthetic meat and plant protein product.

I'm not sure what else to say as I think I posted enough links, charts, and videos to get my point across.