New 90-Day Rat Study Destroys Corporate GMO Propaganda

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Vector99


Feed it to the politicians on a three year trial, then we will have a clearer assessment.

Agreed. Can we also run the same test on them with .308 ammo?

a reply to: Natas0114


Yes with a two hundred yard start, no scope.

originally posted by: EartOccupant
a reply to: DJW001

Thats nonsense.

You have to start somewhere, and if you get differences you can upscale the sample size.
Research is selden unsignificant.

I'm not talking about the ( premature ) conclusions.

I do wonder however where premature conclusions ends and early warning signs begins...

That is not nonsense, he has a very valid arguement. Small sample sizes (10 would certainly fit) make it very difficult to draw statistically significant conclusions from them. This is absolutely not statistically significant. It could have been natural variation, the rats own physiology, stresss levels, literally hundreds of causes other than the corn. We just don't know, and with 10 rats in each group you never will, unless they repeat the same experiment many times with the exact same results, which is the same thing as just having a respectable n to begin with (essentially). I hate when studies are published and gobbled up by the masses who know little about science and statistics yet they draw the most ridiculous, generalized conclusions from a quote of only a portion of the abstract.

a reply to: 727Sky

My issue with GMO is how something so great has to be forced on the consumer.

Heck even the so called republicans went full commie and sided with big govt when they made it illegal for their state to even decide if they should label gmo products. I guess F all that crap about letting the consumer decide , thats only good for speeches not actions.

they do not modify the food , they specifically you modify . one pleases bastards low levels of blue blood get gmo and other vileness and abominations from elite also .

a reply to: interupt42

My issue with GMO is how something so great has to be forced on the consumer.

That's why they have banned Farmer's Markets. Oh, wait....

a reply to: DJW001

That is why there is no way they can sell gmo products in farmers market.

Ohh wait....

a reply to: interupt42

how do you KNOW that no GMO produce is sold at farmers markets ?

originally posted by: mangust69
they do not modify the food , they specifically you modify . one pleases bastards low levels of blue blood get gmo and other vileness and abominations from elite also .

Different subject my friend, many would agree and I am on the fence on that point, the NWO is real though of that I have no doubt BUT does it have the necessary apparatus to be able to put into place such a plan and would they when there are far simpler routes such as binary chemical's etc.

Now to give a little more credence to your point what affect's the stomach has a knock on effect on the brain, many people have had behavioral problem's that are caused by neuro chemistry being skewed by reaction's and condition's in the gut, porphyria is a very good example and once drove a king of England crazy, it affect's the nervous system, the skin and the liver but is also mainly to do with the gut.

So anything that messes with the biggest source of chemical's in your body also messes with the rest of your bio chemistry and notably also your neuro chemistry in the brain as you would expect when something throw's the homeostasis (chemical environment and balance) of the human body out of kilter.

Now there are such thing's as Binary poisoning, two compound's OR more (trinary reaction's) are needed to trigger it, you could in theory introduce one on a large scale to the mass of the population, it may dumb them down and make them more manageable but otherwise be mainly harmless but once you add the second compound that is also mostly harmless on it's own this can cause a fatal or indeed OTHER reaction when combined with the former.

Let's say you wanted to dispose of or control large number's of the population and you were in a position of power, you may introduce substance (A) via there food source or there water source over a prolonged time in order to gain maximum saturation of the population and when you needed to you could add substance (B) or (C) to them via the air or even once again in the water or the food, as a member of the supposed ruling elite you therefore have the option not only of killing them but of dumbing them down, making them placid, causing them to have violent behavior, basically the same thing's that are done through media and other method's.

This though slow would be regarded by some whom hunger for power as a desirable option but this would be a very complicated method of implementing it and there are far simpler routes so I doubt that this is the case in this situation.

In this case Monsanto and it's Ilk are merely after Profit, this is corporate greed and crime not so much the fabled NWO though I don't doubt that they exist and that Soros etc are all member's, in Europe we call them the bilderberg's though the bilderberg's are merely the servant's of the even higher up members of the global hierarchy with there shadowy cabal and internal game of throne's that infamous cabal of international financial gangster's and fraudster's.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: interupt42

how do you KNOW that no GMO produce is sold at farmers markets ?

That was my point, you don't and its illegal to label as such in certain states.

Pretty straightforward really, you can argue about it all day long with two sides entrenched on their opinion. Or you can simply stop eating the foods in question like I do. Something just doesn't ring true about eating pesticides and organisms that don't occur in nature that have had their genetic code altered. Be diligent and you can improve your life or better yet, grow your own food.

a reply to: canuckster

or you can simply stop eating the foods in question like I do.

I get what you are trying to say but the reality is most don't have the ability to grow or hunt their own food in todays society.

a reply to: canuckster

It's not that straight forward.

Almost all food has been modified in some way, some with radiation!

Organic farmers smother their crops with all sorts of things, including bt, which by the way, is organic and occurs in nature.

Very interesting article - and yes - with satanists at the helm, you can be sure unjustified and dangerous interventions upon natural selection - and its naturally superior abilities - will be taken by Humans drunk on a promothean hubris.

It always amuses me. The oaf who does this and doesn't worry about the consequences is dissociated from the effects that it his interventions will create: he literally believes himself to be invulnerable - as if he himself wasn't made up of the same stuff of the natural world - and by screwing up the genes of various organisms (especially those we eat) you are essentially forcing your own body to accomodate the change i.e. it disturbs your own body, and puts you and yours in just as much trouble.

On the other hand, I can only use my power of projective imagination to consider what it must be like to be an "illuminati". How good and strong they must always feel - and how vulnerable they are to the words and beliefs of others - filling them with confidence that only exists because Humans being mutually stimulate one another towards a state of "shared-intentionality". When achieved, your body sits there as if it were heaven, by which I mean, intrinsically sustainable with no effort on your part.

These people are only happy, then, in playing these sorts of games with other people - people who if they knew, would find the powers that be to be intensely psychologically ill - on a level that far surpasses - or equals - the serial killers and sadists that regularly shock the public.

But give the sadist power - and he will truly feel himself - and naively consider himself - to be a god among men, as if the conditions he props himself upon were sustainable - as if his emergent mind didn't rely on matter.

Climate change is quickly converting the majority of Humans - but this clique at the top - a disease, which spreads in the same mode as a virus - manages to repeatedly stave off the inevitable - whether or not Humans are around, they won't be here either - and terra forming mars and living there will be no more possible (have fun avoiding the thousands upon thousands of obstacles that lie in your way: a mere speck of debris can shoot right through the metal exterior of a space ship) then undoing the nightmares to be released by climate change.

Ancient humans - and the elitist cultures they cultivated and then spread among those who managed to become 'elite' themselves - didn't understand how reality worked - relying upon a mode of inquiry (occultism) that is intrinsically deceptive - intrinsically based upon the self's own emergent structure - and so for good reason did Aristotle deride Plato's naive acceptance of an "ideal realm" that had no relation to the real-world we interact with. Aristotle was a scientist - a skeptic who was allowed himself to become more of a "humanist", than the deluded Plato who believed that society should be run by "benevolent" aristocrats - people who are clearly corrupted by their power and advantage, and do not articulate - because of the absence of a plausible physical theory - the way their bodies mutate and distort their reasoning processes - always guiding them through the dimension of feeling (a primitive form of knowledge, indicated by the attraction or repulsion of embodied response) to the most short-term advantageous interpretation, with a rationale and "reason" that always excludes some supervenient principle, such as the golden-rule - the rational logic of interpersonal process, cause and effect, and the concept of feedback loops, which overrules Platonists and Pythagorean obsession with mathematics - to which a theory has been crafted out - upon the "debris" which underlies the formation of their deluded minds - that for many, provides a very plausible framework for why their way of being is "truer" than the ignorant wants of the masses.

Simple justification. Easily explained by a rational, Aristotelian approach, that seeks to attune to nature - ala Goethe's scientific method - to gain some knowledge about the nature of the structure in question. Gone with the trash will be the a priori assumptions - borne from the unacknowledged NEEDS of those making the proposition - which gives precedence to some "perception" or knowledge, a "gnosis", as it were, which then "makes sense" i.e. renders coherent, all that follows.

The human is a pattern detecting machine - and so long as a coherent pattern is maintained, the mind/self feelings comfortable and relaxed.

Nothing is more delusional than assuming a perspective that does not begin from the external world - the stuff which makes it up, and to which we ourselves are made up.

Whatever gnosis exists exists as a function of the relationship between self and world, and seeing a common identity. It does not cherry pick - and it certainly prohibits "the end justifies the means" thinking - because the means, as the Self honestly accepts - structures the self as structured by the effects it creates in the world i.e. through feedback processes.

a reply to: Astrocyte

Brilliantly stated, I myself though regard the human form more as a quantum egg or even an interface for the wave form or rather essence of our consciousness and the mind itself merely a tool as our true self is that consciousness - the awareness that underlies our waking and sleeping mind and to which this body and existance is actually distant at most time's almost as if inhabiting a stranger we slowly diverge from as a duality of nature takes root in our being, maybe the body and mind merely serve to birth our individuality and maybe not but the end result is that divided we are easily manipulated and yet also far more dynamic.

Chaos can be harnessed to great good in the right circumstance and at the right time but only if it is steered by a profoundly benign and over arching force for good and not merely anarchist anger at our injustice so it need's intellect or rather love as a guiding principle and there is our achile's heel for we as a race have forgotten or maybe we never really learned to love.

Unfortunately these elite also stand between us and this benign principle, a stain upon our species and like a blind fold hiding true knowledge as if it were there domain alone yet they are mere peon's themselves and no more than those whom they suppress, control and manipulate.

But as is the fate of Ozymandias from shelley's great poem from dust they came and to dust the shall return, there kingdom lost in the sand's of time and the soul that they have so abused may yet become but what and when, thankfully that is beyond there reach very much like the very hole that King Sisyphus always strove to attain, always beyond there reach though the little child has perhap's already reached it and they never shall.

It was love that helped the child there, sacrifice of his elders whom put him on there shoulder's and he reached down to help them out after him though perhaps they never envisaged that while those being's that regard themselves as elite try to stand on those around them out of hate, control and power which is why there tower always fall's down and never reaches there goal.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: interupt42

My issue with GMO is how something so great has to be forced on the consumer.

That's why they have banned Farmer's Markets. Oh, wait....

Which country are you in ? I assume you are in the U.S.... You really have GMO products at the farmers markets. ?..

WTF man....No wonder there is so much confusion in the U.S over foods...

Here the farmers markets are filled and ran by locals who use spray free growing techniques, most often everything is organic, if it has not been certified organic you can bet your bottom dollar the produce has been grown in a spray free and chemical free environment and absolutely no frank-en foods...this is the whole idea of the farmers market, to get away from corporate agricultural practices and get back to quality products that are actually good for you.

There are many products ranging from butters and cheeses made with live cultures, lots of live foods like sauerkraut, kim chi and all other types of fermented foods...

Sounds like the farmers markets where you are a scam...

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

That sounds very idealistic, just because they say it's 100% organic and spray free, doesn't mean they all play by the rules.

Organic farming can be a scam in and of itself.

Higher prices for what's generally nutritionally identical to "non-organic" food.

It has a place, for sure, I buy free range eggs and pork for example... but some egg producers have been caught lying about just how free range their chickens were.

a reply to: Chadwickus

I have to agree with you it does sound very idealistic, i too was skeptical when i moved here 3 years ago...

I have since gotten to know some local producers and seen the operations and i was pleasantly surprised, admittedly this area is a bit of a bubble and the community is very strong and very picky with foods, the majority of people in this community are vegetarians for varying reasons and the foods available reflect that....for example there is no macdonalds in the entire Byron shire, which in Oz is pretty rare as you know..

The operations are much smaller and community based, granted the produce is more expensive than shop bought and does not have the same shelf life, but that is the price you pay for real fresh foods, people have a choice and i think that is important...

I agree with you that there is a massive opportunity for scams in the organic market and there are ways to skirt around the rules as such, all the organic produce i have ever seen from a supermarket chain for instance has been absolute rubbish and sub standard

a reply to: Natas0114
While talking about rats, here is one for you: after the fifth generation rats stopped reproducing if living near cell phone towers. Even when moved away from proximity to cell tower, they failed to reproduce. Humans are affected also. According to Barrie Trower, British microwave expert, only 45% of the children being born in the 5th gen from now will not be deformed due to to exposure of ova and sperm to microwaves. Ipads are worse for kids than cell phones because of more antennae and used near their midriffs.

In the past 5 years, I have used my cell phone 1/100th of the time I had used it after I heard several lectures about adverse effects on humans and sentients caused by invisible radiation from cell towers. I also removed WiFi from my house and rarely use my Ipad to access the Net since it cannot use a wire. I use a wired computer at home and office. My cell phone is always on Airport mode except when I need it to be on to receive a call. (Keep your landlines, pals. Telecomms are trying to drop them because they can be up to 8 times more spendy to maintain.)

Put Bees, Birds and Mankind, the Destruction of Nature by Electro Smog due to wireless technology proliferation in your search engine to find a free PDF from Germany written a decade ago warning humanity. Pollinators continue to be lost. Wireless, think microwaves, adversely affect bee navigation, birds' ability to make nests; cause cancer, early dementia, diabetes and more by exposures to wireless smart meters, cell towers (now 166,000 in the USA + millions of antennae). See AntennaSearch.com to locate how many cell towers near you. Better to be 2,500 feet from cell tower. Also see TakeBackYourPower.net and EMFSafetyNetwork.org and StopSmartMeters.org and many more citizen created sites like ElectronicSilentSpring.com also MagdaHavas.org and MagdaHavas.com Do us all a favor - minimize or stop using wireless.

I also have eaten organic food for 40 years.

We can learn from rats...or not.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I would have thought for a scientific study to be precise, the GM corn would have had to be untreated with anything at all, especially a known carcinogen, otherwise such adulterants would taint the results and make for inconclusive outcome.

It would probably require that lab grown GM corn, under strict environmental constraints defending against containments that could alter the results would be standard operating procedure for such a test.

At least the study into the effects of GM corn alone i would imagine...although GM corn sprayed with herbicides could also be included in the study as a separate group, to test the effects of the adulterated GM corn against the results of the 'virgin' GM corn, would be useful as a comparison.