More Americans voted for HRC than any other losing presidential candidate in US history

All this tells me is that Hillary didn't campaign correctly to win. She new the electoral college was what mattered going in, as did her husband when he became POTUS and every other POTUS since the electoral college went into place.

All that tells me is that her campaign failed. She campaigned incorrectly to win. CA and NY were always going to be blue...why she even bothered doing anything in either state is beyond me. She could have never set foot in them and still won.

But she didn't do that. She failed and lost because of it.

Nobody complained about the EC before this when they were debating and whatnot. Only after she lost. She and her followers just can't seem to accept that she failed at what she and her campaign were supposed to do....win the electoral college, not the popular vote.

dp

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
All this tells me is that Hillary didn't campaign correctly to win.

No #

She new the electoral college was what mattered going in, as did her husband when he became POTUS and every other POTUS since the electoral college went into place.

Bill is a smart guy..google around and you will read articles where Bill was screaming that she was in trouble the last two weeks...he cited WI, MI and PA to her campaign managers...no one was listening.

All that tells me is that her campaign failed.

Agree, but it also speaks to how severely unpopular and sucky a President elect Trump is.

He has the literal OPPOSITE of a historical mandate...he is literally the historically most "unpopular" President elected.

Fox News just had a survey that showed his favorability ratings lower than any President Elect in history..

Nobody complained about the EC before this

Yes they did.. Dole ran a campaign to flip electors and Pres. GWB assembled a team to flip electors in 2000, but he eeked by and won the electoral college..

AND FOR EFFS SAKE DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF claimed the electoral college was a "disaster" in 2012.

a reply to: abe froman

Whether the result of machine malfunction, human error or even fraud, the unexplained voting discrepancies in Detroit last month were not sizable enough to affect the outcome in Michigan of the presidential election, according to a new Free Press analysis of voting precinct records.

So you're just gonna go and assume these unexplained votes that had zero effect on the election are the result of what? Voter fraud? No, no, this isn't voter fraud, if it was fraud this would be election fraud but the jury is still out on that. And too boot, Clinton lost Michigan but blew Trump away in Detroit so who here would commit the election fraud, Clinton who didn't need those 700ish votes or Trump who lost horribly? It would be great if we knew who those votes went to.

In any case, also this from your article,

Most of those overages were by small amounts — on average about 3 votes — with the largest being 12 votes in a single precinct. Those small numbers, which add up to 782 total spread out across more than 200 precincts, tend to point to human or machine malfunction as the culprit, rather than widespread fraud.

So what's your conclusion here? Trump lost because of severe election fraud? Well, they looked into it and that's not the outcome so stop peddling partisan ignorance please.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Sure they were real votes?

You boys need new material...

Reality and facts last...BS evaporates likes burps in the wind...

Just like Hillary and all her supporters laughing at the idea of her losing the election?

The only thing that didn't evaporate was the inability to take responsibility, and the self pride and the arrogance. It just got transferred to a new meme. The new meme is now focusing on the popular vote as way to claim something.

Nope...All arrogance is gone...The wicked witch is dead..and all the pollsters failed..

AND the current President Elect is the LEAST popular to ever take office..

Facts count.

Let me know when you figure out that part..

Those facts are irrelevant. If Trump wanted to win the popular vote he would have campaigned much differently. Hillary blew it with her campaign, and my earlier mention about her and her supporters not being willing or able to accept responsibility is greatly shown by your statements. Thanks for proving my earlier points. Now, perhaps it is time to move on in life and know not to make those mistakes in the future.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Sure they were real votes?

You boys need new material...

Reality and facts last...BS evaporates likes burps in the wind...

Just like Hillary and all her supporters laughing at the idea of her losing the election?

The only thing that didn't evaporate was the inability to take responsibility, and the self pride and the arrogance. It just got transferred to a new meme. The new meme is now focusing on the popular vote as way to claim something.

Nope...All arrogance is gone...The wicked witch is dead..and all the pollsters failed..

AND the current President Elect is the LEAST popular to ever take office..

Facts count.

Let me know when you figure out that part..

Those facts are irrelevant.

Love when you declare facts irrelevant...

Keep that bit up...It suits you..

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Sure they were real votes?

You boys need new material...

Reality and facts last...BS evaporates likes burps in the wind...

Just like Hillary and all her supporters laughing at the idea of her losing the election?

The only thing that didn't evaporate was the inability to take responsibility, and the self pride and the arrogance. It just got transferred to a new meme. The new meme is now focusing on the popular vote as way to claim something.

Nope...All arrogance is gone...The wicked witch is dead..and all the pollsters failed..

AND the current President Elect is the LEAST popular to ever take office..

Facts count.

Let me know when you figure out that part..

Those facts are irrelevant.

Love when you declare facts irrelevant...

Keep that bit up...It suits you..

The fact that "officially" Hillary won the popular vote is the fact that is irrelevant. No one except you will deny that. The EC vote is the whole ball game, not the popular vote.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
All this tells me is that Hillary didn't campaign correctly to win.

No #

She new the electoral college was what mattered going in, as did her husband when he became POTUS and every other POTUS since the electoral college went into place.

Bill is a smart guy..google around and you will read articles where Bill was screaming that she was in trouble the last two weeks...he cited WI, MI and PA to her campaign managers...no one was listening.

All that tells me is that her campaign failed.

Agree, but it also speaks to how severely unpopular and sucky a President elect Trump is.

He has the literal OPPOSITE of a historical mandate...he is literally the historically most "unpopular" President elected.

Fox News just had a survey that showed his favorability ratings lower than any President Elect in history..

Nobody complained about the EC before this

Yes they did.. Dole ran a campaign to flip electors and Pres. GWB assembled a team to flip electors in 2000, but he eeked by and won the electoral college..

AND FOR EFFS SAKE DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF claimed the electoral college was a "disaster" in 2012.

You can pick and choose pieces of my post to answer....if that works for the narrative.

As far as severely unpopular I can't agree at all....he lost by a margin of the number of people in a single state. Not severely unpopular at all really. Especially considering more people in the US that were eligible didn't vote than voted for either candidate. I mean as long as we are throwing out what if's and stuff.....seems neither were really popular.

And again...HRC failed miserably knowing exactly what was needed to win. Tells me she was a poor tactician and not in touch with the reality of her situation....that or she picked a poor campaign staff.

a reply to: everyone

Ummmm, says one guy, Stan Vaughan, who is running for office in Nevada as Republican and a Trump supporter. No real investigation came from this, as far as I can find on the net, and according to your video he was even approached by the FBI. So if there is any truth to his accusations maybe we'll hear about it from the FBI in the future but I'm not holding my breath.

The title should rather read like:

"More Dead Americans voted for HRC than any other losing presidential candidate in US history"

and/or

"More illegal immigrants voted for HRC than any other losing presidential candidate in US history"

HF

"" More Americans voted for HRC than any other losing presidential candidate in US history ""

An irony that will stand for 100 years.



I'm glad Paul Revere understood.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: everyone

Ummmm, says one guy, Stan Vaughan, who is running for office in Nevada as Republican and a Trump supporter. No real investigation came from this, as far as I can find on the net, and according to your video he was even approached by the FBI. So if there is any truth to his accusations maybe we'll hear about it from the FBI in the future but I'm not holding my breath.

I guess at least he didn't get millions donated and spent on a failed recount effort.....but I mean who would do that? That would just be insanely stupid right?

What I don't understand is why people assume the "popular vote count" is a valid count?

No candidate in the 2016 election nor any one on the chart from the OP has attempted to win the popular vote; they have all attempted to win the Electoral College.

Wining the popular vote vs the Electoral College requires very different strategies; and since no one in the history of the US has attempted to win the popular vote we can not possibly know how many votes they would have gotten under such a system.

It is entirely possible that had popular vote been our system that nether Trump or Clinton would have won their respective primaries.

Added:

Not to mention that voting patterns would undoubtedly change if the system where based on popular vote vs Electoral College. Many people in easy red and blue states don't bother voting already knowing what the outcome will be.

a reply to: Indigo5

It looks like she got her elections strategy backwards. Her mistake. Her failure. Time (and vast amounts of money) might have been better spent.

a reply to: xuenchen


I don't understand how she got so many votes, after all as she says they had a dumb compliant citizenry. vvwww.trueactivist.com...

originally posted by: DAVID64
So basically you're saying you're fine with one state telling all the rest who to elect? That's where the majority of those votes came from. Legitimate or not, one state can not hold power over an entire nation. We see the results of that in Illinois all the time. The Democrats in Chicago call the shots for the whole state, doing what's best for Chicago, screw everything South of Cook County.

Clinton got 65,844,610 votes total.

8,753,788 were from California.

Are you telling me that the other 57,090,822 american voters dont matter because they agreed with the majority of voters in California?

a reply to: Pyle

Math and logic are fake news.

Why oh why are we still talking about this?? It is irrelevant. Trump won the EC, end of story. If it was the other way around the left would be the ones telling the conservatives to shut the f**k up, so now if they would so kindly do the same, that would be swell.

a reply to: Indigo5

Is the population going up? Yes? Then this really shouldn't be a shocker if you have a brain...I get it, she won the popular vote, who cares.

Second edit to say this sounds meaner than I mean it too. Let's just see what happens.