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More Americans voted for HRC than any other losing presidential candidate in US history

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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: SteamyJeans


I would think even the most hardcore Trump fans could find some worthy fat to chew on here.. if being honest with oneself.



I admire your optimism that those two things can co-exist...lets see if the thread bears that out.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
a reply to: Indigo5

Considering our population continues to grow, it's pretty easy thing to continuously break...


Before Trump the electoral college and popular vote only split 4 other times in 250 years...

So...not sure what you are talking about?


"More Americans voted for Hrc than any other losing candidate in history"

Who's the runner up? Romney... I predict the new winner of that honor will probably be the loser in the 2024 race.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Indigo5

It is a FACT that in Michigan pollsters counted single Democrat ballots multiple times, i.e. fake votes.

That's just what we are absolutely sure of.


I understand that you saying the word "fact" makes you think it is...but no...that was right wing fake news molesting real facts. I investigate, research and dig when BS erupts...you should try the same.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: PsychoEmperor

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
a reply to: Indigo5

Considering our population continues to grow, it's pretty easy thing to continuously break...


Before Trump the electoral college and popular vote only split 4 other times in 250 years...

So...not sure what you are talking about?


"More Americans voted for Hrc than any other losing candidate in history"

Who's the runner up? Romney... I predict the new winner of that honor will probably be the loser in the 2024 race.


I think you need to review the graphic I included which was PERCENTAGE of the vote (accounting for population increase).



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Indigo5


Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York.

Clinton won California by 4.2 million votes and New York by 1.6 million, running up the score in places where she would have won no matter what.

Outside of those two liberal states, Trump was 3 million votes ahead.

California alone accounted for more than Clinton's national popular-vote edge.

Newt Gingrich mocked: 'This is football season. A team can have more yards and lose the game. What matters is how many points you put on the board'


Should 2 cities determine who is the President because that does not seem fair?

The Daily Fail - Straylia Edition



That's BS through statistics...

Example: IF Dallas had gone HRC, TX would have gone HRC and HRC would have won.

Shall I stomp my foot and say...should Dallas determine the outcome of our election????? That doesn't seem fair!!!



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
So basically you're saying you're fine with one state telling all the rest who to elect? .


You mean Texas right?

Cuz if Texas had gone Blue, Trump would have lost.

Mark Twain had something to say about how stats are abused by BSers...



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: DAVID64
So basically you're saying you're fine with one state telling all the rest who to elect? .


You mean Texas right?

Cuz if Texas had gone Blue, Trump would have lost.

Mark Twain had something to say about how stats are abused by BSers...

But they didn't, so what's your point?



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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Hey Folks..

I didn't think HRC was a great candidate either, I just thought she was definitely less sucky than Trump.

But apart from bad choices...FACTS MATTER..and the circle jerk around here by Trumpkins is getting ridiculous..

These are the facts...You can digest them alongside the fact that your guy is still POTUS...

IF you can't process facts ...you have no business on a forum dedicating to DENYING IGNORANCE IGNORANCE..
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Back up and follow the posts to answer your own question.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

No, I'm talking about California.
And it's nice how you call any opinion that doesn't follow your own "BS". Tale them out of the results and we see what she got. You are saying one state should decide an election. That is what the EC prevents and all I can say is, Thank God she lost. The bad part is, the Democrats knew she was corrupt, otherwise, why all the cheating, rigging and general underhandedness.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: Swills

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Rosinitiate

There's the rub.

So many fake votes and so much voter fraud in this election it's probable that if only real votes were counted she probably in actuality lost the popular vote as well.





What fake votes? Are you sourcing Alex Jones for this nonsense? As far as voter fraud goes, there were a few Trump supporters who were arrested for voting twice because they too believed crap they read online.


2000 votes made in 2 days. 3000 of those were for hillary.
Do i really need to point out what is wrong with that?






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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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'More illegal immigrant votes and fake ballots than any other president in US history'!



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:29 PM
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"But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too."

www.sciencedirect.com...
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5
If you ain't first you're last...



edit on 12/21/2016 by Martin75 because: spelling



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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More corruption and fake news than any other candidate in history.....this truly is the ultimate circus



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Sure they were real votes?


You boys need new material...

Reality and facts last...BS evaporates likes burps in the wind...


Just like Hillary and all her supporters laughing at the idea of her losing the election?

The only thing that didn't evaporate was the inability to take responsibility, and the self pride and the arrogance. It just got transferred to a new meme. The new meme is now focusing on the popular vote as way to claim something.



posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Indigo5

No, I'm talking about California.


Right and you are saying absent CA, Trump would have won the popular vote...

And I can easily take any two or three red states that fit inside CA landmass and remove them and flip it back to Clinton after we remove CA.

Or electorally...we can remove CA Trump wins by a landslide, but then we remove TX and add CA back and Clinton wins it all by a landslide.

I think picking and choosing states of the union to include or exclude is a statistically BS way to make an argument and math and reality supports that IMO.

Feel free to disagree...

If TX was not included HRC would be POTUS...you can say the same of CA for Trump and the popular vote...

But at the end of the day...States are states...and considering CA is both HUGE geographically...and pays more into the federal coffers than any other state in the union (If CA was a nation it would rank something like 6th in the world GDP)...I don't think it makes sense to play pretend what state is not a state.
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posted on Dec, 21 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Sure they were real votes?


You boys need new material...

Reality and facts last...BS evaporates likes burps in the wind...


Just like Hillary and all her supporters laughing at the idea of her losing the election?

The only thing that didn't evaporate was the inability to take responsibility, and the self pride and the arrogance. It just got transferred to a new meme. The new meme is now focusing on the popular vote as way to claim something.


Nope...All arrogance is gone...The wicked witch is dead..and all the pollsters failed..

AND the current President Elect is the LEAST popular to ever take office..

Facts count.

Let me know when you figure out that part..
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