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This is WAR – German politicians turn on Angela Merkel amid call for martial law

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: Pandaram



Pakistan is in other side of the world you dodo!


Pakistan is 2,860 nautical miles from Germany, just a little further than the distance between NY and LA here in the USA.

It's a far cry from being on the "other side of the World", dodo!



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

But not exactly walking distance.
He has a point.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

But so did you, with the point about neighboring countries not taking these refugees in.

Much the same as Malaysia rounds up tens of thousands of illegal Indonesian immigrants...each year...and sends them back to Indonesia by the ship load. They're nothing but trouble, and a burden on society as a whole. Same with Bangladeshi immigrants into Malaysia.

Hardly walking distance in either of those two examples, but they come anyway...and they get sent right back.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Their reasoning is that one bad apple doesn't spoil a bunch. I'm not sure how true that is, but it only takes one bad apple to hurt an awful lot of people. As for the refugees... only accept women and children. Problem solved.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Looks like V for Vendetta in real life. How will it take before a party similar to the Norsefire Party comes to power in Germany? Now I'm against bringing, refugees, but I'm concerned that there are those who will take the dark path and repeat the mistakes of the past by allowing Neo Fascist groups to solve their problems.



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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: MrConspiracy

You are simply wrong.

The number of asylum seekers? The fault of western government. The fact that a statistically irrelevant number of these individuals happen to be affiliated with the proxy armies of nations like the UK and the US? The fault of western governments. Whose responsibility is it?

We keep voting for these idiots who fund terrorism, who take away our liberties "to protect us", who funnel our taxes into private hands, who sell weapons to our enemies. The issues are not the fault of the large majority of entirely innocent immigrants, and no one should EVER be held to account for actions they are not responsible for personally.

So the citizens of the west, who are perfectly happy to see their arms sales go up, their revenue increase, their liberties eroded, and their societies collapse as a result of media manipulation are buying their own downfall, not having it done to them, and the only innocent people in all of this, are the immigrants who want nothing to do with war. Everyone else, the governments of the West, the people who refused to vote for pacifist governments, refused to vote for a government that would take the MIC out the back and have it shot, and the terrorists themselves, these people who failed their own nations are the ones to blame for the situation we find ourselves in.

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: MrConspiracy
This is what happens. The world isn't ready for what we want it to be.

We demand multiculturalism and a more open, ideal world, but we seem to forget the people we let in to our western, more forward thinking societies are often a thousand years behind our mentality.

Call me racist, wrong, brutal. Call it what you want. It's true.

Multiculturalism has failed.


^That^




posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 10:33 AM
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I find it quite amusing people think the influx of Migrants wasn't planned with an ulterior motive.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: Profusion




"Chief executive of the populist right wing Alternative for Germany party, which is widely expect to obliterate Mrs Merkel's party in next year's elections, say the country is now no longer safe."


A populist jumps the gun to state his BS while the police caught the wrong guy. No! Yes! Duh!

So they can't catch the real prick driving a truck into a crowd full of security?
As they couldn't prevent a suicide terrorist from commiting suicide in custody?

Right. We're at war with Idiocracy and no longer save from utter retardation. I bet the Verfassungsschutz has his dirty hands deep in this one as well, state terror at it's finest. But that's fake news in a world of fake news, amirite?



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 11:05 AM
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Perhaps it should be called:

The Goosestep Revival Agenda Theory:

What began by appearing to be a genuine liberal do-gooder initiative, was really a subversive plot to re-ignite white solidarity to such a degree to re-invent full blown white supremacy combined with rabid nationalism to herald the true face of what so many of us always suspected the EU to really be: the New Reich.

The liberal machine here too is steadily urging about the same thing here in he US, although by pushing different buttons. I've hardly been able to keep up with their advances since I finally took note of it, but beware th Identity Politics my European brethren. And don't forget all of the little faces of authoritarianism, totalitarianism, censorship, and the rest of the code & language of rabble rousers & dictators. I dont know what to tell you to do about the Radical Islam problem, just Never Forget as we say about the lessons the social engineers there and here have to go by from the past 100 years here and there.
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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: LostThePlot

Especially with the dubious nature of alot, dare I say most, of immigrant issues.

Not that I don't believe these people live by different standards than us (their view on women, ...), it's hard for me to believe that the people in charge didn't see this comming.

On top of that, look at what's happening in the nordic countries, there's now no-go zones for citizens due to the police not being able/allowed to intevene with the immigrants. Rapes occure on a daily basis, and after seeing what happened in Koln NYE 2016, it's pretty clear the police is being pressured (from higher up) to do as little as possible.

The immigrants are just pawns being used to push whatever is comming next.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

No.

The citizens who are the ones being run over have little to no knowledge (by design) let alone control over what youre blaming here.

The wars will go on regardless of "votes". Citizens cannot stop that money being made. Forget it.

What they CAN vote for is immigration policy that keeps out the folks most likely to drive a truck into a crowd of shoppers in the name of an imaginary sky ghost.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Remember Project Paperclip- when the Nazis were brought over to UK and US. I believe eventually they ended up infiltrating governments all over the Western World to bring back the Reich. To that, they use the refugees crisis along with other issues such identity politics and other so called 'liberal' ideas subverted them, and use it as an excuse to regain power and finish what Hitler started.


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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:00 PM
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The time for open borders has passed. The time for forced deportation and repatriation has arrived. Other than treacherous politicians seeking to protect their sinecures and demented deluded liberals, every sane person knows this to be true.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: Urantia1111

Let me chime in here.

For one it's a refugee crisis, for others it's just a bunch of immigrants ready to be exploited. Look at the States, the last bastion of neocon hope seems to be this migration into free markets soon to be run by the working poor.
And while you folks whine about loosing your job to someone with less pay, we're just being devided to rip each other apart in this struggle for the last breadcrums.

Look at Italy! They just voted for the 5 Star idea and more direct democracy is already on it's way just like the Renaissance was. We don't need our poor non-working ultra-rich elite to get our act together, Lagarde isn't the only criminal in charge.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Made famous by the rocket scientists whom propelled the US (and Russian) space programs, it goes that some 80-90% of the German scientists brought over during Project PAPERCLIP were not actual rocket scientists. Many speculate that the bulk of them were actually of the mind sciences (propaganda, social engineering, etc), and under a proper post-era socio-institutional analysis this would seem to be the case.

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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: starwarsisreal

Made famous by the rocket scientists whom propelled the US (and Russian) space programs, it goes that some 80-90% of the German scientists brought over during Project PAPERCLIP were not actual rocket scientists. Many speculate that the bulk of them were actually of the mind sciences (propaganda, social engineering, etc), and under a proper post-era institutional analysis this would seem to be the case.


That is a very interesting viewpoint, it would certainly go along way to explaining much of the destabilising madness that we have seen enter the mainstream narrative, extreme liberalism, open borders, feminism etc.



posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

Hey after WW2 many of these Nazi Scientists, Intelligence Officers and SS are rabid fanatics and I'm pretty sure many of them along with their descendants want revenge on the West and Russia for destroying the German Reich.

In order to accomplish this they'll need to have the Western World tear each other apart.

I'm pretty sure many of the missing Nazi gold was used to finance their operations for revenge.


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posted on Dec, 20 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion



Look at the States, the last bastion of neocon hope seems to be this migration into free markets soon to be run by the working poor.


If I am interpreting your statement correctly, I heartily disagree! Neocons, or neo-conservatives, don't spread their ideals by allowing mass unlawful immigration into their own countries. They generally do it by projecting force (militarily in most cases) onto OTHER countries to achieve political gain.

What we're seeing with these mass unlawful (or lawful, depending on how you look at it) immigrations into Europe is a move to advance the socialism agenda by the globalist elite types. These are acts which come from people bent on integrating all the people into one homogenous mass of people who can then be reduced to the lowest common denominator allowing for easier domination.

BIG difference!

Make no mistake, BOTH are wrong, but they have vastly different objectives and methodologies. The first is akin to a type of genocide, while the latter is akin to releasing an incurable virus into their own population. One works from the outside, and the other from the inside. Significantly different strategies of evil.

Ironically though, the end games are the same or very similar (even though they despise each other). The neocons and socialists differ wildly with their ideologies but their end-game is nearly identical...CONTROL, POWER and DOMINATION.

ETA...Merkell is FAR from being considered a "neocon"! A "globalist" maybe, but certainly not a neocon!
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