A basic lesson in logic.

Your looking for logic on what, this planet? There is none. This is an insane asylum and the patients have the keys. Doctors make you sick. They loan you money created out of thin air, so you can buy shyte that is you birthright by being born here, like food, water, housing, clothing, clean air, medical care and to live in freedom! You vote your sovereignty away to sociopaths. You give them your proxy to wage war on innocents for the benefit of greedy corporate interests.
No there is no logic to be found on this f$cking planet!

The Anti Christ has come to power, so sit back, grab a or twenty, and a fatty or two, some snacks, sit back and enjoy the show, its gonna be a doozy.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Well, we'll just have to disagree on the merits of licorice and asparagus. Although, if I was forced to eat one or the other, I'd choose the asparagus. Sans ice cream.

Logical fallacies don't get me too excited either. But I think that some people shame others for their emotions because secretly they wish they were actually computers rather than humans. They think cold logic equals perfection.

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Actually I think its 5yr olds trying to act like adults

a reply to: MrSensible

So what you are saying is you are atheist and being an atheist is the only correct point of view.

a reply to: MrSensible

First of all, only idiots talk about ad hominem attacks on internet threads. Next thing you will be complaining about is people not being logically consistent. Just because you had a college education doesn't mean you are smarter than people who don't. The price of ammo doubled under Obama and that's why Hillary lost the election. If people like you would stop burning the American flag then we would have prayer back in schools. You just hate America. Trump will MAGA.

a reply to: MrSensible


The flaw in your logic between two different flavors of ice cream is that it compared only two. Therefore, the taste of one causing the other to be favored is correct logic. We did have to taste both you know.

I'll make this plain for you, Hillary is bad, Trump is better. Got that?

a reply to: Aliensun

See number 1.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: MrSensible

First of all, only idiots talk about ad hominem attacks on internet threads. Next thing you will be complaining about is people not being logically consistent. Just because you had a college education doesn't mean you are smarter than people who don't. The price of ammo doubled under Obama and that's why Hillary lost the election. If people like you would stop burning the American flag then we would have prayer back in schools. You just hate America. Trump will MAGA.

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

a reply to: MrSensible

Just because Hillary Clinton was the most corrupt candidate ever put forth as a presidential candidate (And this really is quite indisputible. Sorry.) does not mean that Donald Trump is incorruptible...Hillary Clinton was NOT a good candidate just because Donald Trump is demonstrably unqualified for the job.

Basically, what you are stating is:

originally posted by: MrSensible
Read that slowly, as many times as it takes for it to sink into your thick monkey cranium.

Not that I don't appreciate an insecure pedantic asshat as much as anyone, but I was wondering, should I be prostrating myself before you while I read your words of sublime Loving wisdom??

Read 'dis' slowly! *__-

a reply to: namelesss

See number 5. And possibly number 4.

Also, you may take whichever pose you find most comfortable. I will never know.

a reply to: yorkshirelad

I see where your coming from. Call it naive, call it whatever you want. Donald Trump did make a lot of money and did not pay his workers. I know this. I know that he has evaded taxes and I know that we cannot control everything the president does. But when established Republicans and Democrats are shaking at the prospect of a Trump presidency, forgive me for wanting to vote for him. I didn't say any "BS," and I do not think that Trump is a saint. I know what he did and I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings, respectfully. He did declare bankruptcy. If you study business legislation you will see that what he did was completely legal. I do not see how this equates to a career in making money off of politics and using the State Department as a pay to play by foreign entities.

P.S. I see that you're from Scotland, and I know that you people are quite upset about the Brexit vote. I'm sorry if it hurts you.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha


Did you just attempt to take a point of view that people shouldn't use logic?

Would you rather your doctor treated you based on the logical conclusion that you have a cold, or the emotional conclusion that it could be cancer?

There is no shame in having emotions. Succumbing to those emotions and letting them dominate you - in my opinion - is incredibly shameful, however. Emotions are a roadblock on the road to truth. I think Yoda said that.

originally posted by: MrSensible
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha


Did you just attempt to take a point of view that people shouldn't use logic?

Nope.

I'm saying stop crying about it; it's not very logical to cry about other people not using your precious logic

originally posted by: MrSensible
Hillary Clinton was the most corrupt candidate ever put forth as a presidential candidate...does not mean that Donald Trump is incorruptible.

Clinton's corruption has been exposed for everyone to see.

Trump hasn't even released his tax returns.

It could well be that Trump is the most corrupt of all. But, his affairs are all secret. We don't even know the details of all the many deals in the tangled web of 500 businesses in 25 nations that involve many foreign government favors, and who knows what bribes were involved to get business done all around the world.

But, don't worry. Once a candidate enters the White House, people become inspired to investigate all of his affairs, since it makes good news stories. So, over the next 4-8 years, we'll all find out how much of a "saint" The Donald is.

a reply to: AMPTAH

Not to mention the fact that OP is arguing to use logic and then placed her as the MOST corrupt politician EVER as fact, despite it's subjectivity.

Hey I agree that logic needs to be used in greater consistency. Just hard to take the original message as seriously when a part of it lacks logic.

oh and before you respond OP....no I don't care about your FAQ or your thoughts on my intelligence

My quick FAQ:

Q: Do you care what OP says in response?
A: No

end of line

originally posted by: MrSensible
Licorice ice cream tastes bad. Therefore, chocolate ice cream tastes good.

Read that slowly, as many times as it takes for it to sink into your thick monkey cranium. Does that statement make any sense at all?

About as much sense as someone who votes for Clinton while they would agree with the description "corrupt politician" for her in order to avoid another corrupt greedy egoistic fella from becoming president, choosing the lesser of 2 evils (as their main argument for personal 'logical' justification; that is...used by them as being the logic behind that decision).

Or about as much sense as someone talking as if monkeys can read their comments or that "monkey" is a funny colorful alternative for "human" that will do any good when complaining about the degradation in the proper use of logic in human society on average, or an increase in that degradation since Western media chose to market US politics and in particular Trump as a major talking point and viewer ratings attraction magnet (on the internet, that would be clicks). Not sure if you're suggesting that things have changed significantly on ATS since I chose my name in 2012, but it seems that you are. I haven't noticed a considerable increase in people using logical fallacies and bad argumentation (it's about as poor as when I registered and the years before I commented), or just being plain unreasonable about the most important subjects of reality that they often don't even care about or call mere opinion to discredit, devalue or obscure (that they are the most important subjects for example, or that these subjects are uncertain, unclear, vague, always 'in the eye of the beholder', i.e. the claim that no one is able to ascertain the truth of that particular matter with certainty).

You may think engaging your mind (feeding your mind) primarily or predominantly with US politics is the sensible thing to do for any US citizen or registered voter (or even outside that country), but is it the wise thing to do?

I liked the scene in Star Wars about knowledge and wisdom a lot more than watching US politics or reading threads about US politics, it takes a lot less of your time as well:

Here's an alternate appoach to the subject of politics appealing to your thinking abilities from which wisdom can proceed* while imparting knowledge that is most conducive for that purpose (*: if used properly; see also my commentary and links in this thread):

Can You Make the World a Better Place?

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Unless I missed some sarc, it's worth pointing out that if humans aren't logical, then computers cannot be logical, since they are the creation of humans, right?

a reply to: KyoZero

I didn't say it was a fact, I said it was "quite indisputable". Meaning, good luck trying to dispute that information. Reading comprehension is important!

Also, you care. I know you do. You will probably read my response and be tempted to respond to me, but you can't. By responding, you will have confirmed to me, "Yes, I care what you have to say." And by not responding, I will know that that's exactly what happened. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, my friend. This is called "backing yourself into a corner". Try not to do it again.