Toddler killed in Arkansas road rage incident

What an absolutely terrible story. I simply can not image the emotions that the family is going through. To lose a life so young and full of unlimited potenial, over something so trivial is beyond my comprehension. My prayers are with the child, that he or she is in a better place now, and with the family.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Actually, its a hood car. Because police use them, Gs in the hood like them.

Tinted, black, suped up. Typical sight in all the ghettos I go to.

Scum bag needs to be caught.

Maybe a good starting point would be to start checking on any Impalas sold a police auctions that fit the description.

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Exactly. Racistly assuming race is the least racist course of logic.

Not at all. It is a huge problem in this country and nobody is addressing it for fear of being labelled. Until it is addressed it will only get worse, for everyone.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: TNMockingbird
I wasn't able to glean any information regarding race in the article.
Could someone be so kind as to direct me?

If he was White there would be calls for gun control and the article would say in the very beginning, "Suspect is WHITE".
Technically I am going on a hunch but, haven't been wrong yet. The media tells you who the suspect is without telling you.

It says right in the OP that they're looking for a tall black man.

I didn't see that. I read the whole thing and even googled to find another article on it, and no mention there either.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don't like the death penalty but this guy should be publicly broken on the wheel, drawn and quartered.

originally posted by: EightAhoy

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.


originally posted by: imjack
The Right is desensitized, they don't care about the victim, only that people be punished in politically established medium labels. A black man shooting people isn't bad news, this is great news to them. Just more endless soapbox material to push racism and martial law.

Ummm, epic fail. I'm a registered Republican. Perhaps evaluate your own personal and political prejudices.

originally posted by: Lysergic

The woman then drove to the JC Penney in west Little Rock, where police received a call that the child passenger was shot.

Why did she continue on down to JC Penney before doing anything? Trying to get further away from that guy perhaps?

It says it is an apparent road rage incident, but what started it all? Why were they road raging?

So many questions, too little information.

But..

Even with this tiny bit of information though, it's pretty shocking that people are still capable of such acts.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

I linked several stories with no mention of it.

a reply to: TNMockingbird

The world is simply ridiculous and who creates (raises) these types of people?

A: American society.

Also, stop lumping the rest of *the world* into the American dysfunctional-violent society pile. Violent acts such as this one, do not happen as frequently—or if at all—in any other developed nation. Tragic events such as these seem to be the American norm. And yes, for those of us who do not live in America—it is very shocking and tragic.

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a reply to: CulturalResilience

Absolutely disgusting, we as a race are supposed to have evolved beyond this. Apparently some still haven't got that memo. Standby for this thread to be turned into a debate on the pros and cons of gun control.

...or turned into a race issue using passive aggressive commentary.

As I don't live in America the logical question for me to ask is if there is a particular demographic likely to own or use such a vehicle?

That is the most "logical question" to arise, huh? Btw, police have been searching for a Black Male since the story broke. It took me two seconds to find that out.

I understand what you are alluding to.I chose to post my comment in the way I did for the sake of the thread. I agree this has nothing to do with gun control but I would not be at all surprised if that question finds its way into this discussion.

This has *nothing* to do with gun control at all...? Not even a smidgen? Here's a *logical question*:

1. Was a gun used to kill this child?

2. Does the person who did the killing seem like somebody who should of been in possession of a gun?

You are incorrect in your assumption of my motives. I guarantee you that investigators of this incident will have asked and explored the same question.

I agree. So, how come you didn't use logic to find out for yourself? Or even checked the Arkansas Police Twitter Account for the details before posting your comment?

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a reply to: Lysergic

My heart goes out the family and friends of this child and his grandma. My imagination causes me to envision what it must of been like to see her grandchild in such a state and the gut-wrenching feelings of panic and horror she must of had at the time and the feelings of utter grief the child's family is presently feeling.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

Yes and no. It's very common for "urban" people to drive the same vehicles that our police use. However it's also one of the most common mid size sedans-so- you can see why I said yes and no. There are other people that are stupid enough to think if the police use them, they must be good cars. They don't realize there's a contract for so many mid size sedans from both of our major manufacturers. And that the police departments have full time mechanics that work on them continuously.

a reply to: vonclod

We could be really evil and make him get a job.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: TNMockingbird
I wasn't able to glean any information regarding race in the article.
Could someone be so kind as to direct me?

Usually no information points to someone with a protected status. More often than not, if it's a white guy, race is mentioned in the article.

He was black and it's the second time in a month that this happened. First time and that suspect is still at large.

My heart goes out to the child that lost it's life and the family that has to live with this tragedy.

www.usatoday.com...

"Tonight's homicide was a road rage incident, the grandma and 3 year old victim are innocent and have no relationship w/ the suspect," police said on Twitter. Police were looking for an older black Chevrolet Impala being driven by a tall black man.

We can confirm that the child has died. Homicide detectives are conducting the investigation. This is 40th homicide this year. — Little Rock Police (@LRpolice) December 18, 2016 "This is probably one of the most frustrating things you will encounter in your (law enforcement) career, when it involves children, particularly kids of this age," Buckner said.

Buckner noted the shooting marked the second time in less than a month that a child was fatally shot while riding in a vehicle in the city. A 2-year-old girl was killed by gunfire while riding in the backseat of a car Nov. 22. No arrest has been made in the case.

originally posted by: Involutionist
Does the person who did the killing seem like somebody who should of been in possession of a gun?

On that point, I'd take a wild guess here that at least one of the following is true:

1) He does not have an Arkansas carry permit in order to keep a loaded handgun in his vehicle
2) He has a prior criminal history that disqualifies him from legally acquiring/possessing a firearm
3) He acquired the firearm through illegal means

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Exactly. Racistly assuming race is the least racist course of logic.

Not at all. It is a huge problem in this country and nobody is addressing it for fear of being labelled. Until it is addressed it will only get worse, for everyone.

Hey I totally don't disagree. The issue is the precedence. Toddler suicide leads toddler murder statistically. So does toddler cancer and toddler brain disease.


Oh wait, unless you mean the guns, race and crime bait in the story.

This hurts. An innocent child caught up in ignorant adult antics!

I wonder if the grandmother and shooter knew each other and some kind of vendetta was perpetrated.

When you hear the word "grandmother", you automatically sterotype her as older, maybe even elderly.

But, there are some grandmothers in some families that aren't even 40 years old yet.

A piece of # shoots a kid and people fight over who might be racist, the world is going to hell.

a reply to: vor78

On that point, I'd take a wild guess here that at least one of the following is true:

1) He does not have an Arkansas carry permit in order to keep a loaded handgun in his vehicle
2) He has a prior criminal history that disqualifies him from legally acquiring/possessing a firearm
3) He acquired the firearm through illegal means

So basically better gun control laws and reform are needed if any of the above are true.

Here in Canada, it is *legal to own a gun* unless a person has a prior conviction (criminal record); documented for past violent behaviour; or deemed mentally unfit by the Ministry Of Health. However, despite it being legal for most Canadians to own a gun as long as one goes through the proper channels and/or procedures in order to be approved by the provincial government — most Canadians simply do not find the need, or want, to own a gun.

This doesn't mean we don't have gun violence. However, most people who commit gun violence here have been found to possess the gun used in crimes from illegal means. I will give you two *guesses* where they acquired the gun...