Toddler killed in Arkansas road rage incident

a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Police say they are looking for an older black chevy impala driven by a tall black man.

according to the wreg.com article.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

This is all the description they have so far and that could fit quite a few people. It's like saying a tall white guy driving a pickup.
I hope they catch this guy, or, if he hears what he did, he turns himself in out of guilt. I would imagine that, right now, he's hiding out of panic and fear. I just don't get how someone could go off the deep end like that and fire randomly into a vehicle for so little.

www.cnn.com...

We need your help locating an older black Chevrolet Impala being driven by a tall B/M. The incident occurred at Warren & Mablevale Cutoff. — Little Rock Police (@LRpolice) December 18, 2016

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Exactly. Racistly assuming race is the least racist course of logic.

originally posted by: EightAhoy

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

As I don't live in America the logical question for me to ask is if there is a particular demographic likely to own or use such a vehicle?

I don't know that answer; however, I hope it would be a top-priority for the media to get that description widely circulated ASAP so tips might lead to apprehension of the suspect. Perhaps it is being reported in the city/region, but I found it odd I had to deliberately look for it by searching for other coverage. The first thing I thought: I hope the grandmother got a look at the monster's vehicle.

You have hit on a problem that investigators always face with that comment. In incidences such as this memories are particularly unreliable. The last time some ahole cut you off or did some other stupid or dangerous thing how much detail did you note about he vehicle and the driver. Vehicle S.C.R.I.M; shape, colour, registration, identifying marks, model. Person S.H.A.B.E; sex, height, age, build, ethnicity. All of these criteria need to be accurately logged and noted and, lets face it, how many of us are making those kind of notes in those situations, when it all tends to happen in a matter of moments and our thoughts are in the fight or flight mode.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: TNMockingbird
I wasn't able to glean any information regarding race in the article.
Could someone be so kind as to direct me?

If he was White there would be calls for gun control and the article would say in the very beginning, "Suspect is WHITE".
Technically I am going on a hunch but, haven't been wrong yet. The media tells you who the suspect is without telling you.

It says right in the OP that they're looking for a tall black man.

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.

originally posted by: EightAhoy

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.

The Right is desensitized, they don't care about the victim, only that people be punished in politically established medium labels. A black man shooting people isn't bad news, this is great news to them. Just more endless soapbox material to push racism and martial law.

originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: EightAhoy

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.

The Right is desensitized, they don't care about the victim, only that people be punished in politically established medium labels. A black man shooting people isn't bad news, this is great news to them. Just more endless soapbox material to push racism.

On the face of it this comment is also making a generalisation which is somewhat ironic.

Right now, cute puppies are being born to bring laughter and happiness to a child someday.. don't worry this bad thing that happened, just has another opposite reaction but in another persons life.

Don't over exaggerate such small bad things. There are good small ones too!

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: EightAhoy

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.

The Right is desensitized, they don't care about the victim, only that people be punished in politically established medium labels. A black man shooting people isn't bad news, this is great news to them. Just more endless soapbox material to push racism.

On the face of it this comment is also making a generalisation which is somewhat ironic.

You'd be better off taking the hypocrisy route if you just want to make this right verse left, like cop shootings, as for authenticity, nothing I said is false. This happens every time bad things happen, the Right thinks it's funny to make prejudice the most important part of the issue. For example, see 9/11. This is nothing new, and you might find it to be a generalization, but I will disagree pretty fast with you this doesn't happen every single time, and the Right doesn't find some odd sense of disturbed satisfaction being handed fuel for these fires.

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
[The last time some ahole cut you off or did some other stupid or dangerous thing how much detail did you note about he vehicle and the driver. Vehicle S.C.R.I.M; shape, colour, registration, identifying marks, model. Person S.H.A.B.E; sex, height, age, build, ethnicity. All of these criteria need to be accurately logged and noted and, lets face it, how many of us are making those kind of notes in those situations, when it all tends to happen in a matter of moments and our thoughts are in the fight or flight mode.

I've only experienced road rage once when myself and another driver both chose the same toll booth on approach from separate lanes. He arrived first, put vehicle in park, and proceeded to climb out and approach my vehicle in a threatening manner with his fists clenched at his side. I was gob smacked. In a split second, I locked the doors, put my SUV in neutral, and when he was about 3 feet from my vehicle, I gunned the engine hoping to convey I had the advantage. It was broad daylight and other vehicles were arriving/departing through other toll booths. To this day, I recall many details about that vehicle and even more about the man. But, I didn't experience tragedy. My memory would have been clouded had the encounter resulted in injury/loss of life.

originally posted by: EightAhoy

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
[The last time some ahole cut you off or did some other stupid or dangerous thing how much detail did you note about he vehicle and the driver. Vehicle S.C.R.I.M; shape, colour, registration, identifying marks, model. Person S.H.A.B.E; sex, height, age, build, ethnicity. All of these criteria need to be accurately logged and noted and, lets face it, how many of us are making those kind of notes in those situations, when it all tends to happen in a matter of moments and our thoughts are in the fight or flight mode.

I've only experienced road rage once when myself and another driver both chose the same toll booth on approach from separate lanes. He arrived first, put vehicle in park, and proceeded to climb out and approach my vehicle in a threatening manner with his fists clenched at his side. I was gob smacked. In a split second, I locked the doors, put my SUV in neutral, and when he was about 3 feet from my vehicle, I gunned the engine hoping to convey I had the advantage. It was broad daylight and other vehicles were arriving/departing through other toll booths. To this day, I recall many details about that vehicle and even more about the man. But, I didn't experience tragedy. My memory would have been clouded had the encounter resulted in injury/loss of life.

I see you understand the problem completely.

Seems like a trend though. Maybe he was just keeping it real, always defending the indefensible a reply to: Hazardous1408

a reply to: DAVID64

Given the circumstances and that Little Rock has a significant gang problem, my first guess would be that the perp is one of the local area thugs. Hopefully they'll catch him soon.

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: OccamsRazor04


Police say they are looking for an older black chevy impala driven by a tall black man.

according to the wreg.com article.

And the problem is many news sources will only have the race in the article if it's a white guy.

No mention.
wtvr.com...

No mention.
www.news4jax.com...

No mention of race in the article other than the twitter comments they added.
www.cnn.com...

I don't care if race is ever mentioned, it's the double standard that bothers me.

originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: EightAhoy

Why can't a story be a story without inference to race? Neither the race of the suspect, nor of the victim crossed my mind.

All I saw was an innocent child denied his/her life, a grandmother racked first by fear, then horror, then grief, and likely later, guilt, and an entire family impacted by tragedy, never to be the same again while some scum sucking dirt bag lies low for the next few weeks.

If the victim's family celebrates Hanukkah, Christmas, or Kwanzaa they'll never again celebrate with the same level of joy.

The Right is desensitized, they don't care about the victim, only that people be punished in politically established medium labels. A black man shooting people isn't bad news, this is great news to them. Just more endless soapbox material to push racism.

On the face of it this comment is also making a generalisation which is somewhat ironic.

You'd be better off taking the hypocrisy route if you just want to make this right verse left, like cop shootings, as for authenticity, nothing I said is false. This happens every time bad things happen, the Right thinks it's funny to make prejudice the most important part of the issue. For example, see 9/11. This is nothing new, and you might find it to be a generalization, but I will disagree pretty fast with you this doesn't happen every single time, and the Right doesn't find some odd sense of disturbed satisfaction being handed fuel for these fires.

I never suggested anything you said was false. I pointed out that you used a generalisation to make a point about generalisation which I found ironic. I have not mentioned the left or the right in the terms of this discussion so I cannot see where you have the grounds to suggest I am being hypocritical.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

I just disagree it's a generalization. I do understand it can be viewed that way.

I was saying hypocrisy would be the easiest way to counter the argument I made, not that you were hypocritical.

The left is easily desensitized too, but it seems more like a depression, than the nihilist Right.

a reply to: Lysergic

A tragedy.

I hope the person is caught and severely punished.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Actually, its a hood car. Because police use them, Gs in the hood like them.

Tinted, black, suped up. Typical sight in all the ghettos I go to.

Scum bag needs to be caught.