My predictions for where we'll be after some time of a Trump Administration

These are my predictions of the outcome of a Trump administration. Some of these will be directly attributable to Trump himself, some will not.

I'm not terribly interested in discussing or arguing about them at this time; I'm mainly putting them here now to get on record. We can discuss them more in a year or so.

I sincerely hope I am wrong about all of these. That would be great.


1. The country will be less secure than it is now.
a. There will not be a wall on the southern border. If there is any action at all on that, it will be rife with corruption.
b. Torture will again be an official policy of the US government.
c. Governmental organizations focused on killing people will be extremely well funded, organizations focused on helping people will be short funded.
d. The US will be in active war in at least one more theatre than we are today.
e. Habitual government surveillance of the general population will increase.
f. Governmental spending as a whole will increase. National debt will increase, at a faster rate than it has been.
g. Public education will continue to decline in quality.
h. The culture as a whole will trend towards more aggressive behavior. Violent crimes will increase, both within and across racial or religious boundaries.
i. Health care will continue to get more expensive and less effective. The US will continue as the worst industrialized country on the planet for health care, in terms of money spent vs results gained.
j. The US space program will continue to decay. Any forward progress in space will be military / security / surveillance / profit oriented.

2. The economic situation for normal working Americans will not improve.
a. Wages will remain stagnant.
b. There will be no action to return high level manufacturing or engineering jobs to the US. If there is any action, it will be symbolic, largely ineffective and provide more benefit to corporations and CEOs than to workers. The Carrier situation is a case in point.
c. It will remain prohibitively expensive for middle-class Americans to get a good education.
d. The people that are already wealthy will get more so. Everybody else will pay for that.
e. There will be an attempt to privatize Social Security.
f. The massive disparity between what interest rates financial institutions pay vs what they charge will continue. (Current average saving account rate, paid to normal folks: 0.06%. Average credit card rate, paid by normal folk: 21%).

3. The country will be less "free" than it is now.
a. There will be a wave of anti-freedom legislation across the country at both the federal and state levels. Examples: Restrictions on women's access to safe and legal abortion, restrictions on voting.
b. There will be no effective examination and improvement of police behavior.

4. There will be fewer nice places left in the country.
a. There will be "energy production activity" in various natural parks or wilderness areas around the country.
b. There will be a general increase in pollution levels.
c. We will lose ground on climate change.

Should have named this, "Chicken Little says the sky is falling"

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic
doom and gloom, a lot of that sounds like our last 8 years, for the "record"

Somebody has their Negative Nancy pants on today.

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic
Sounds very familiar,just like Obamas regime,buisness's have left country,federal laws make it imp[ossible for small buisness to survive,I see an opposite,but your libtards will continue to try and derail Trump train,I'm thinking people will finally get tired of all this liberal BS,and find having a job gives one self worth,can't teach that in school

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

You are 99% wrong, maybe more. Did you get this from the Democrat/Communist handbook? Is your name Hillary?

Meh. Imagine my shock shock there is a bunch of whining in here already, when nobody has anything but an opinion at this stage.

chuckk - did / can you read the OP? If I'm 100% wrong on these I'll be thrilled.

I've mentioned before I have a brother similar to Trump.

I always saw him as a train engine, barreling forward on a one way track toward a single focus bullseye at the end. He never looks sideways.

Trump cares about Trump and whatever is in front of him that he deems important. He has no interest in what falls to the wayside as he focuses straight ahead on what's important to him.

My brother has the same personality that no matter what - - people believe him. But, it never affected me - - much to his frustration.

What I see is Trump building his own Dynasty. If there is any real concern for this country and its citizens - - I don't see it.

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I painted with a broader brush - - in a different style.

But, I agree with all your points.

Unfortunately, I think you've pretty much nailed it.

My only hope is that the president-elect becomes a former impeached president within the first two years, and things come back around after the mid-term elections enough to render the V.P. impotent. Then after another two years, we can start over without too much damage done.

One can dream, anyway.

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

I sincerely hope I am wrong about all of these. That would be great.

I hope your wrong but feel you're right on most of them.
Isn't next year going to be exciting.

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

Those predictions would seem to be accurate.

Though, I am not surprised my responses with 'liberal BS', 'Obama was the same', some silly one liners.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Unfortunately, I think you've pretty much nailed it.

My only hope is that the president-elect becomes a former impeached president within the first two years, and things come back around after the mid-term elections enough to render the V.P. impotent. Then after another two years, we can start over without too much damage done.

One can dream, anyway.

im with you...
best possible scenario

you could switch Trump with Obama and you'd have a synopsis of the last 8 yrs.

a reply to: Open_Minded Skeptic

As bad as that list is, I hope that's as bad as it gets.

With Trump nominating people with draconian ideas about the drug war like Sessions, former professional wrestling buddies like McMahon, a modern day Goebbels in Bannon, and a science denier as head of the EPA, it looks like its going to get a lot worse.

The only people who don't see this as a problem are the Trump cult people and the people who believe against all evidence he's some kind of benevolent billionaire businessman sent here to take America back to a time that never actually existed in the first place.

Trump supporters are the textbook example of wanting to sacrifice freedom for safety. What makes it worse is isn't even real safety, it's a lie. All of it.

But lying and falsehoods are ok. Because Trump said it.

a reply to: kaylaluv

That is your only hope? Really?

My hope is the OP is 100% wrong and our Country thrives!

a reply to: underwerks

All he needs do now is make John Bolton Secretary of State and we're good to go.

originally posted by: JSR
Should have named this, "Chicken Little says the sky is falling"

Older people will tell you all that stuff is already been occurring. Is this the 'lets pretend its not that bad yet' thread?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Unfortunately, I think you've pretty much nailed it.

My only hope is that the president-elect becomes a former impeached president within the first two years, and things come back around after the mid-term elections enough to render the V.P. impotent. Then after another two years, we can start over without too much damage done.

One can dream, anyway.

I'm actually hoping for that too. Before a new Supreme Court Judge is confirmed.

But, the damage will be done by the Extreme Right Wing cabinet he's chosen.

sorry, doom porn is so pre election.
where were you the last 2 1/2 months

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: JSR
Should have named this, "Chicken Little says the sky is falling"

Older people will tell you all that stuff is already been occurring. Is this the 'lets pretend its not that bad yet' thread?

I am Older People.

We've never seen anything like Trump trying to run this country.