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originally posted by: dawnstar
Below are some very disturbing facts about why some women may feel pressured into getting an abortion.
64% involve coercion. A study published in a major international medical journal found that 64% of American women who had abortions felt pressured by others. Coercion can include loss of home, job or family, and even violent assault.
Up to 83% wanted to have the baby. In a survey of women who sought help after abortion, 83% said they would have carried to term if they had received support from the baby’s father, their family, or other important people in their lives.
In 95% of cases, men play a central role in the decision to abort according to a survey of women at abortion clinics.
Husbands and boyfriends threaten women at the clinic A former abortion clinic security guard testified before the Massachusetts legislature that women were routinely threatened and abused by the husbands and boyfriends who took them to the clinics to make sure they had abortions.
Dangerous consequences if she resists. Coercion can escalate to violence and even murder. Homicide is the leading killer of pregnant women. The “Forced Abortion in America” report includes examples of molesters posing as fathers to procure cover-up abortions and women being fired, beaten, shot, stabbed, tortured or killed for refusing to abort.
prolifemen.publishpath.com...
and please note that this is from a site called Pro-life MEN but I've seen similar statistics elsewhere...
it seems that men are having a pretty big impact on women when it comes to abortions!!
Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response
following an abortion, that psychological distress appears to be greatest
before, rather than after a termination.
originally posted by: OrdoAdChao
To argue that someone should have control over another persons body because of how they feel is completely ridiculous ...
The mother has more right to self-determination because she can self-determine, the fetus cannot. The fetus, at that point, is wholly dependent on the survival of the mother.
There will always be anecdotes to the contrary, but I firmly agree with the notion of bodily autonomy and how important it is to have in a free society.
originally posted by: eletheia
I dont need to re read your post I quoted it for accuracy.
I dont need lessons on contraception ....thank you however if you checked the link in my post you would see
Fact... Half of ALL women getting abortions were using contraption the month in which they conceived
perhaps you need to preach to the men? so as to stop the dead beat women
from having termenations.
It is more the reality than anything you have quoted even if it is at the top end of the scale of deadbeats. However you dont need to take these things to heart its never going to be your problem ....Bottom line is ...
( She) is not your problem Her body her choice
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: Hecate666
I am sorry, it is solely down to the one putting their health and life at risk to have the last say on this.
I have a wife and know other women in my life who disagree with your assertion. That's a nice opinion that you have, there, but in the end, it's just an opinion--
So yes, it is solely down to her, no man can FORCE a woman to go through that just because they 'want' something they could make really quickly with someone else.
Sorry men.
You have a really deranged way of looking at pregnancy. Most men want a baby (not just a "something") with a woman that they love, with whom they believe would make a wonderful mother and help raise great human beings, and with whom they see themselves spending the rest of their lives.
To whittle down a man to something akin to 'a guy who just wants something that they can make with any woman really quickly' is a pretty asinine statement to make, and really a poor reflection of how you view relationships, having children, and what you think of men in general.
originally posted by: Hecate666
Never let assumptions get in the way of trying to be righteous.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
Okay, here we go--let's go through this yet again.
Here's my stance on it, and science backs up my point of view, so it's not just based on feeling or a bunch of I-thinks...
I espouse many libertarian ideals. The way that I approach abortion and human development is based upon the reality that, even at the zygote stage, a developing human being already has its own unique, HUMAN DNA--it is a created human being. Being as such, and espousing libertarian ideals
I feel that it is my duty to protect that tiny human being from being snuffed out of existence, even though
it cannot speak for itself yet.
Just because a small, developing human being cannot affirm via its own voice that it wants to survive doesn't mean that we should accept abortion as being the right of the mother.
Abortion is only a necessary evil with the life of the mother (or embryo/fetus) is in jeopardy, or possibly an elective situation from a pregnancy resultant from a rape. I consider the sanctity of life to be a much more paramount importance to a free society--we live under the belief that all people are created equal and with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Elective abortion negates all three of those promises to an individual, and I'm not okay with that.