U.S. 2016 - Presidential Election VOTE RECOUNTS - - An Ongoing Status Thread.

At $14,000, the NEVADA recount is a bargain for Roque de la Fuente.


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originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Voiceofthemajority
a reply to: carewemust
They also argue there is virtually no way to complete the process by Dec 13th and so to grant a recount would put Michigan's electoral votes at risk of being lost.

Something definitely wrong with this. A system that is supposed to allow for the possibility of recounts, that doesn't actually provide sufficient time to do that recount, if and when it is required, is designed broken from the start. It is as if no one wants to do that recount, because the elections are "fixed" before they are even run, and the election officials all know this, only the public is clueless.

There should be a deadline for when a recount can be requested. When it comes to the Presidential election, there should be a Federal rule that sets the same deadline for all 50 states. Then, you wouldn't have imbeciles filing for recounts 2 and 3 weeks after the election.

What would be a good deadline date...maybe 10 days after the election? File a recount request before that date, or forget it.

originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Green Party drops statewide PA recount.



www.nbcnews.com...

I don't believe that Stein is done with PA.
I think she is just changing the plot.
She is going to try going at this a different way.

There are some counties still recounting due to affidavits.
But I think that she still has some other trick up her sleeve.

You're right! Stein is now seeking FEDERAL COURT intervention in PA...

""Green Party candidate Jill Stein late Saturday vowed to bring her fight for a recount of votes cast in Pennsylvania in the U.S. presidential election to federal court, after a state judge ordered her campaign to post a $1 million bond.

“The Stein campaign will continue to fight for a statewide recount in Pennsylvania," Jonathan Abady, lead counsel to Stein's recount efforts, said in a statement.

Saying it has become clear that "the state court system is so ill-equipped to address this problem," the statement said "we must seek federal court intervention."

The Stein campaign said it will file for emergency relief in the Pennsylvania effort in federal court on Monday, "demanding a statewide recount on constitutional grounds."

Source Article: www.reuters.com...

For someone who can't possibly win any states, Jill Stein is acting as if she's on the cusp of becoming President and can't let go. Maybe she's in her own "Mandella" world, LOL.

a reply to: carewemust

Elections are left to the states so a federal law would intrude in that whole states rights realm. It's why some states that require ID only require it during state elections, where the feds have no jurisdiction. I know Kansas was looking at separating their state / local elections from their federal elections by one day to avoid federal rulings on ID requirements.

As for Stein in PA I dont see her lawsuit going anywhere. Next time she should read the requirements and file on time. This smacks of the theory of trying to push hand counts to force it past the Dec 19th deadline to disqualify electoral college votes.

The EU is actively engaged right now with the movement suppoting recounts in various states. The EU is blatantly interfering with US presidential transition. The stakes are high, as this could effectively hamper US capabilities to have a functioning government, forever!

Wisconsin Day 4 Results

1440 counties are recounted out of 3636

Excluding Milwaukee:

Trump +110
Clinton +73

Net Trump +37

Sunday federal court recount hearing ends: Decision pending

A three-hour hearing in federal court in Detroit has ended on Green Party candidate Jill Stein's request for an immediate start to a presidential recount in Michigan, with a federal judge saying he will return to the bench later today to announce whether he will give a written or oral ruling.

U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith was asking skeptical questions Sunday about Green Party candidate Jill Stein's request to order the immediate start of a presidential recount in Michigan.

This is interesting, and it sounds like it is news to Stein's lawyer:

Also, state officials disclosed at the hearing that the state election results, showing Trump as the victor, have already been certified and Gov. Rick Snyder has already certified the Trump electors and sent that information to Washington, D.C. Denise Barton, an attorney reprresenting the Board of State Canvassers, said that means the "safe harbor" requirement that electors be certified six days prior to the electoral college meeting on Dec. 19, has already been satisfied.

Michigan's electoral votes are guaranteed to count, except in the unlikely event that a recount shows Trump did not win Michigan's 16 electoral votes, in which case another set of electors could be certified and sent to Congress, she said.

Brewer argued it was Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette who warned Michigan's electoral votes could be at risk if the recount is not completed by Dec. 13.

That is good news.
I wonder if that changes things for Stein.
It is extremely unlikely they can flip the state in a recount. I think they were counting on stalling to exclude the electors totally.

a reply to: BlueAjah

I don't see Michigan's Certificates of Ascertainment listed, but it might not be posted yet.

There are 10 states listed so far:
www.archives.gov...

a reply to: BlueAjah

There is this....Michigan is certified
www.politico.com...

a reply to: BlueAjah

The judge filed a response in the Michigan case (Stein request to start recount immediately) about an hour ago.
It's federal though, so it needs a Pacer login to access it.
I don't see that media is reporting yet.

In general, the Recounts SCREW Black Voters, according to Charles Ellison.

WHY: wglt.org.../0

Jill Stein is causing all this inconvenience just to TEST the system?!?!

"Until now, Stein has said she wasn't expecting to change results, but wanted to test the integrity of the Michigan system against possible mistakes or fraud."

Michigan Update: www.freep.com... 1fecba

Well it seems that it doesn't matter if Michigan recount or not the electoral votes are already been certified.

So let them count, it will not change the results anyway.

a reply to: carewemust

They are finally admitting what they are really up to:

Mark Brewer, an attorney for Stein, told Goldsmith an unusually high under-count – ballots with no vote for president – of eight per precinct, is "sufficient to change the result" of the election, in which Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton in Michigan by 10,704 votes.

Until now, Stein has said she wasn't expecting to change results, but wanted to test the integrity of the system against possible mistakes or fraud.

Brewer's assertion that the outcome could change in Michigan caused Gary Gordon, who has represented Trump and the Michigan Republican Party, to question whether Brewer, a former chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, was acting for Stein or for Clinton.

a reply to: BlueAjah

One thing is to know what they are really up to and we know that, and another to hear from the horses mouths.

Hillary and Stein are despicable, they have not respect for the electoral system and they will love to see the country destroy because they can not get their way, after all they are not the ones to deal with the consequences, they live in Richistan America.

Hmmm.. it appears that all the pressure and embarrassment is getting to Jill Stein. This is a CRAZY statement she made today...

""One interesting claim that Stein made in the video had to do with spoiled ballots and "racial bias." As she sees it, "if the ballot was cast by a person of color the odds are increased by 900% that that vote is going to get tossed.""

Source: us.blastingnews.com...

JILL and HILLary are doing a dual meltdown this year.

a reply to: carewemust

How in the world would someone counting votes know what color the voter is?
Seriously?
She is crazy.

a reply to: carewemust

I will love to see Stein been escorted by the police to a mental hospital for examination, perhaps she is forgetting to take her antidepressants and is becoming incoherent.

""One interesting claim that Stein made in the video had to do with spoiled ballots and "racial bias." As she sees it, "if the ballot was cast by a person of color the odds are increased by 900% that that vote is going to get tossed.""

Wow Jill stein has superpowers!

I wonder who is leaning on her. Dog the bounty Hunter should pick her up and take to North Dakota to stand for her trial.

Sunday, December 4, 2016

MICHIGAN RECOUNT TO BEGIN TOMORROW AT NOON.

"Michigan must begin its presidential recount at noon Monday, a federal judge ruled in a late-night order that could make it more likely the state will complete the count ahead of a Dec. 13 deadline.

In his ruling Sunday night, Judge Mark Goldsmith rejected an effort by state officials to delay the hand-counting of about 4.8 million ballots."

Source: abcnews.go.com...