The NFL Is Punishing A Player Who Uses Marijuana To Treat His Crohn’s Disease

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: crazyewok
Doesnt this fall under disability discrimination?

Crohns is a disability.

So surely punishing someone from takeing medication that treats there disability is discrimination?

Well, if it does fall under disability discrimination, then I have low testosterone, diabetes, and a growth hormone deficiency. I need prescriptions for anabolic steroids, insulin, and HGH. And I need to be allowed to compete on all of it.

You wouldnt let somone on mefical MJ drive a truck or do surgery. But in sport it does not give you a competative edge.

Marijuana definitely gives you a competitive edge. It mellows you out and allows you to "flow" into techniques. When I used to box, it hugely improved my counter-punching, getting into a rhythm, etc. It made me much less stiff and stuck in the mud.

Marijuana me KOs natural me in round 1.

The NFL drug substance abuse policies is been call archaic and with double standards, they don't have one policy that fit all but a series or regulations or that is what they call to deal with what again they call "offenders"

They have a policy for substance abuse and a separated one for steroids abuse,

Players do sign a contract and in that contract it includes about a 60 pages paperwork on the topic of illegal substances.

The issue is handle by the "National Football League Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse." , they do have waivers when it comes to certain medications because they can bring positive results in drug test.

The problem with marihuana is that is still considered and illegal drug under the Act of 1970 that classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug, as long as the Federal government keep marihuana classification under that act no even medical marijuana can be exempted, that is up to the NFL to decide in their drug policies.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Ugh... That's something I'm not excited about either... Sessions is one of the biggest anti-pot crusaders in the country. It would only be worse if Trump had nominated Kevin Sabet.

Well, hopefully if people yell "STATE'S RIGHTS!" at him hard enough, he'll back off.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Ugh... That's something I'm not excited about either... Sessions is one of the biggest anti-pot crusaders in the country. It would only be worse if Trump had nominated Kevin Sabet.

Well, hopefully if people yell "STATE'S RIGHTS!" at him hard enough, he'll back off.

That's currently my biggest plan to combat him.

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: crazyewok
Doesnt this fall under disability discrimination?

Crohns is a disability.

So surely punishing someone from takeing medication that treats there disability is discrimination?

Well, if it does fall under disability discrimination, then I have low testosterone, diabetes, and a growth hormone deficiency. I need prescriptions for anabolic steroids, insulin, and HGH. And I need to be allowed to compete on all of it.

You wouldnt let somone on mefical MJ drive a truck or do surgery. But in sport it does not give you a competative edge.

Marijuana definitely gives you a competitive edge. It mellows you out and allows you to "flow" into techniques. When I used to box, it hugely improved my counter-punching, getting into a rhythm, etc. It made me much less stiff and stuck in the mud.

Thats the same with any painkiller.

You can get that same effect from Vicoden or a dozen other prescriped opiates.

But this issue goes further.
A lot of people in mundane jobs are still at risk for takeing medical MJ, office jobs where it should not be a issue.

Dp

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: crazyewok
Doesnt this fall under disability discrimination?

Crohns is a disability.

So surely punishing someone from takeing medication that treats there disability is discrimination?

Well, if it does fall under disability discrimination, then I have low testosterone, diabetes, and a growth hormone deficiency. I need prescriptions for anabolic steroids, insulin, and HGH. And I need to be allowed to compete on all of it.

You wouldnt let somone on mefical MJ drive a truck or do surgery. But in sport it does not give you a competative edge.

Marijuana definitely gives you a competitive edge. It mellows you out and allows you to "flow" into techniques. When I used to box, it hugely improved my counter-punching, getting into a rhythm, etc. It made me much less stiff and stuck in the mud.

Thats the same with any painkiller.

You can get that same effect from Vicoden or a dozen other prescriped opiates.

But this issue goes further.
A lot of people in mundane jobs are still at risk for takeing medical MJ, office jobs where it should not be a issue.

Or, apparently, acid.

originally posted by: RedDragon
Yeah it definitely does. I used to box and marijuana reduced my fear of getting hit, and increased my ability to piece together combinations and punching in bunches. It also made finding openings easier, and made it much easier to "find a rhythm".

I would suggest that it also:
* increased your level of oxygen absorption because of its brochodilative effect
* helped with pain reduction
* slowed your perception of time, giving you better defensive and offensive opportunities
* allowed you to sleep better (important in any sport).

originally posted by: seagull
Private corporation. They can make their own rules.

The players signed the Collective Bargaining Agreement. I'm sure it's in there somewhere...

He can lawyer up, but it's going to be a tough fight for him.

Was the collective bargaining agreement formulated by Satan?

Limited studies due to MJ being Schedule 1 and anecdotal evidence aside, MJ does not give a competitive edge in NFL games.

How many building trades workers get booted for failing the same test while holding a medical marijuana card?

I don't smoke and know there is a huge difference between a guy on a field and a guy operating a crane, but most building trades guys don't operate cranes.

I am not faulting him, just asking why cry about him? He has made more money at 24 than most of us will in our life.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Crohn's disease can kill. It is a very serious condition indeed, and it's treatment can be painful, envenerating, and even if surgery to mitigate damage is successful, recovery and long term maintenance can be arduous. It often involves modified dietary requirements, which can leave some sufferers caught between a rock and an agonising place, nutritionally speaking.

It is RIDICULOUS that the NFL treat cannabis this way in this case particularly. If the players doctors say he needs it to maintain optimal health outcomes long term, then they have no business interfering. If I were his doctor, I would be busting in to the NFL and his teams board room so fast and hard it would make their repeatedly concussed heads spin, and I would have to sit these ignorant chumps down and explain that their sports science degree does not trump actual medical advice from an actual medical doctor, and to kindly stop messing with my patient.

a reply to: Krazysh0t


I see Stupid wins again.



Poor guy, just trying to get some treatment and the NFL pulls the ol' REEFER MADNESS school of thought.

But Booze and Tobacco are kosher? Stupid wins.

No. The NFL is like any private business with its own rules, and one of those rules includes banned substances. Marijuana is currently one of those substances.

Understand, the NFL bans a lot of substances that are otherwise legal for people to use ... like certain cold OTC medications that mimic performance enhancers in a drug test because ... well ... they are performance enhancers if taken in different amounts.

So until and unless the NFL decides to revise its list of banned substances for its employees (players are employees), then it doesn't matter how legal marijuana otherwise is.

This is no different than another private business requiring a drug free workplace and deciding marijuana is one of those substances they don't want in their employees' systems for various reasons.

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
Limited studies due to MJ being Schedule 1 and anecdotal evidence aside, MJ does not give a competitive edge in NFL games.

I would tend to agree with you, but until the NFL does as a private organization, it doesn't matter.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Zerodoublehero
First off id like to point out that i am pro legalization.

Buttt if my employer says i have to pass drug test annually and i were to get fired for not passing the drug test i cant complain. If he doesnt like the rules he can thank his union for agreeing to it, and go get another job where he is free to smoke.

Okay. So they say the players cant be opiate addicts. But then they get an injury and need the pills, but then it shows up in the "drug" testing so now they penalize him?

Considering the strain these guys endure to perform in that sport, them all using it in their off time should be mandated, if anything.

Im not arguing any of that. Personally i think everyone should be allowed to do at they please. But these guys signed a contract with their employer. Follow the rules or get fired cause thats how the real world works. If they dont like it they are more than free to get a job doing something els.

I say they all sit out the National Anthem in protest!

a reply to: shooterbrody

Oh, I don't know ... I can think of some professions where I wouldn't someone high on anything working alongside me, just like I wouldn't want a drunk there.

2017

a reply to: Lysergic

Almost current year argument I guess, preemptive?

kek