Female Viciously Beaten by Man over Trump Argument at Brooklyn Restaurant

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: muzzleflash

There is too much to be sceptical about in these stories. The political stuff seems tacked on, no license plate, no pictures, no video, no credit card, and in a "liberal bubble".

Keep us posted on the outcome.

I understand.

But skepticism aside, my main message, I believe, stands strong:

Our political turmoil has gone too far and the violence is unacceptable.

I agree, but can you convince the Hillary supporters to stop beating the crap out of Trump supporters who to this day have hundreds of youtube videos showing them getting mauled by roving gangs of SJWs.

originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: muzzleflash

so.....
is your friend imaginary or real???

They are (She is) very real.
I'm sorry I didn't express that more properly, I didn't suspect you'd take it that way. Hahah

I wrote this thread for a lot of reasons.

I was refering to my past several threads over the last month or so in my response to ketsuko (in terms of devil's advocate). But this thread was about something that hit a lot closer to home and genuinely disturbed me.

To make it clear, I don't believe that this incident should have a political side or slant.
I believe it's about human decency.
And we should all be on the same side of that:
Against violence.

Puuuhlease. Then remove the Trump propaganda from the misleading title of your thread. Honestly, you posted this for humanity reasons!? She wasn't viciously beaten according to the police and the woman herself. I've seen UFO threads with more evidence.

She hates Trump, probably supports Clinton. Knowing Clinton supporters, she probably instigated the entire thing and is now playing the victim.

She is probably upset over Clinton's loss. Got in the guys face and raged thinking she is a woman and he can't touch her. Then when he snapped, she instantly went into the victim role.

I'd put my money on it.

a reply to: anonfamily
Sounds like you are right. No evidence to the contrary.

Then again it could be some type of viral marketing prank by the restaurant to get free publicity in the news by using the controversy of the election. Probably the idea was thought up by Bob Creamer featured in the Veritas videos where he championed bird dogging.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

or he (or she) is telling the truth, and is quite upset to have his friend hurt in such a way, and came one here to get some stuff off his chest about it. I hear so many on these boards saying how we on ats are like family, well how about taking him at his word.... what the heck what harm could it do really to be a bit supportive? a family, heck it's more like the hatfields and the mc coys!!!

a reply to: dawnstar

Well, for one the title is misleading. No where in the linked article does it say she was viciously beat. The women had no visible injuries and DID NOT request further attention or hospital care. This thread title is click bait, riffing off the election unease. With no evidence to this grand pronouncement of a mauling Trump supporter what are we led to believe? I have far more evidence of Trump supporters getting a vicious beating.

And if she was beat that bad the women would have had a sketch artist and an APB out on this guy with all the witnesses.

I thought women and men are equal now?

gee, the assaulter and his wife even got a free meal out of it.....

www.nydailynews.com...

that article is slightly different than this one though...
gothamist.com...


and then there is this one...
ny.eater.com...

there are a few minor details that are different, but something did happen.

and according to the op, the victim went to the doctor's today. I don't know, sometimes, it takes awhile to realize just how hurt you are?

a reply to: dawnstar

No it doesn't take a day to figure out that you had been viciously beaten. This whole story is exaggeration. As are your hilariously linked articles.

Bill de Blasio is calling for information from witnesses. Betting no one is charged and that the other patrons say she was harassing him before he struck her.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

This thread title is click bait, riffing off the election unease.

so why is it so different from all the other posts "riffing off the election unease"? I've seen far more about the violence against the trump supporters, but hardly anything about the harassment that's been going on against the minority groups by the trump supporters. although, I do know there are some....

a reply to: dawnstar
I am going to entertain the idea, that maybe the female patron was attacked for an entirely different matter, and the bar owners thought it would be good publicity for support to spin a fake black man, muslim man, Trump supporter assault story.

Are police reports public record in NYC?? Would love to see exactly what it says.

dawnstar

I think you need to go back and reread the lesson?

Not at all. I don't need to do anything as you suggest. My post was entirely logical and full of common sense. I am not saying you have to follow it, I am merely pointing out that all interactions have a consequence, and that it is our discernment that is at fault if the consequences turn violent upon us, or if we ourselves turn violent.

You cannot act or think with impunity, that is not what societal freedom is about. Society requires we compromise together, otherwise we disagree to society's detriment.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: dawnstar
I am going to entertain the idea, that maybe the female patron was attacked for an entirely different matter, and the bar owners thought it would be good publicity for support to spin a fake black man, muslim man, Trump supporter assault story.

Are police reports public record in NYC?? Would love to see exactly what it says.

So now it's the Bar owners fault? Maybe the woman was in the guys face and she got hit over that. I don't condone violence but if you harass someone, just don't be surprised if they harass you back.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

believe whatever you wish....
heck believe in santa clause for all I care....
here's a video for ya....



nice guy there, ya... made in america!!!

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: thepixelpusher

This thread title is click bait, riffing off the election unease.

so why is it so different from all the other posts "riffing off the election unease"? I've seen far more about the violence against the trump supporters, but hardly anything about the harassment that's been going on against the minority groups by the trump supporters. although, I do know there are some....

Because the thread title is false and misleading. The woman states she needed no attention or hospital visit and the police noticed no signs of injury, yet the OP states she was viciously beaten. Huh? Threads discussing the election topics typically have better evidence and arguments than this one.

a reply to: elysiumfire
and like I told someone else...
they were having a private conversation and THE GUY STARTED ARGUING WITH THEM...
then the story seems to deviate, either he asked the workers at the restaurant to kick the ladies out, or the ladies asked to be moved to another table. the workers moved the guy and his wife instead. then all of the sudden, the comes barreling back to the table with the two women, shoving customers out of his way and jostling babies in highchairs just to punch the lady..
gee. my kids used to get into heated arguments all the time and I would send them to their corners to cool off...
sure, they both took part in the argument, but if one was to leave their corner just to hit the other, can you guess who got in trouble for that one?? that's right the one who left their corner!!!

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: thepixelpusher

believe whatever you wish....
heck believe in santa clause for all I care....
here's a video for ya....

nice guy there, ya... made in america!!!

I'll see your single video and raise my hand by submitting a compilation of Hillary supporters beating and bloodying Trump supporters. Far worse than harse words the intolerant hateful Hillary supporters use fists.



But let's stay on topic. This is about a women crying wolf and claiming to have been viciously beaten.

a reply to: dawnstar

I just did a Google "Bar Tabac Trump" and it seems this thing is making the rounds now:

Huff Post

Firstwefeast

Mic
Rawstory

Dnainfo

Brooklynpaper

Nymag

Carbonated

That's page one. It goes on and on. Most of it rehashed from the original 2 or 3 articles, a few discussion boards etc.

a reply to: muzzleflash
I can link to scores of pages saying the Earth is hollow. Doesn't mean there is evidence for that. In none of your links is there any evidence to support this supposed vicious beating. David Seaman, a journalist that worked at HuffPo wrote about the man hate there and the undying support for Hillary, so that one is already biased.

a reply to: dawnstar


Dawnstar, I agree with you on at least half of your posts but I am confused why you posted a video of a moron that is for Trump when there are just as many videos of morons that "supported Hillary" that are committing acts of violence now. I understand your frustration, and I am with you in that I have seen Muzzleflash post on here for a long time so I choose to take him at his word also. That said, for those who don't know how long he has been here or seen a variety of his posts can you blame them for being skeptical? If I didn't know him from his long history of posting and didn't bother to look at his join date or the massive amounts of stars, flags, etc. that I may be skeptical also as the title does seem a little misleading if you take into account all factors.


I was actually fully intent on staying away from this thread due to vitriolic difference of opinion, but got sucked back in because it was front page.....