Hillary Clinton: First Woman to win the people's vote for President of the United States

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: angeldoll
I'm so proud of her. In the face of all the ridiculous slander, libel, attacks on her appearance, her family, she held her head up, and did what she felt she should do. She's a remarkable person who has spent her entire adult life in public service. She's so much smarter than most on the political scene (not even in the same league with her) and has a caring heart to go with it. I hope she will run for Senator again.

Angel, I think she is a pretty remarkable lady. Her last appearance, she looked old and tired, time for her to hang it up. We need to find some young and upcoming Democrats to rebuild the party.

A forty year old would be tired after a two year ordeal like the one she's had. It's an emotional and physical beating. But I agree that pushing seventy is getting on up there for politics.

But it seems to be an individual thing. Some fifty year olds are done and ready to call it quits, while some 75 year olds and beyond that, are in good shape mentally and physically and keep on going. It depends on the person.

Besides, one could say the same about the elect.

She has been vetted for 30 years, and accused of more crap than you or I could imagine. It is time to retire and enjoy the time she has left with her daughter and grandbabies.

Thanks for using the word "crap" because that is precisely was it was/is. Besides, given a choice of someone making successful life decisions, I think I would pick "HER", over any trump supporters. Obviously.

According to the FBI it isn't all crap. Perjury, (felony perjury) And all I need here is just one example because that is quite bad. And that you support a criminal felon for president invalidates your support in the eyes of the good Americans who don't support criminals for president. AND That is why you lost.
AND of course criminals of a feather are going to vet each other. Hillary vetted for 30 years? LOL

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Be careful pointing fingers. The guy who got elected isn't exactly squeaky clean... and that's not what this thread is about anyway.

Trump did decent enough. He got the electoral vote and that's all he had to do.

Hillary won the hearts and minds. She may not have won ATS, but she did come away with a lot more votes than Trump.

I think it's too bad that Trump voters can't acknowledge the significance of Hillary's win. Feels like sore losers over a Popular Vote.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Be careful pointing fingers. The guy who got elected isn't exactly squeaky clean... and that's not what this thread is about anyway.

Trump did decent enough. He got the electoral vote and that's all he had to do.

Hillary won the hearts and minds. She may not have won ATS, but she did come away with a lot more votes than Trump.

I think it's too bad that Trump voters can't acknowledge the significance of Hillary's win. Feels like sore losers over a Popular Vote.

The problem I Am having with Hillary is how James Comey and Loretta Lynch made a special case of ignoring the laws for all those crimes she committed, and if any regular citizen committed them, they would be facing life in prison. And the MSM protecting Hillary with that same blanket approval with no regard for the law, or for journalism integrity, and Hillary herself remaining in the race as if nothing had happened is just too grave an insult to everything America is based upon.

In regards to that, she should not have remained in the race, so I count all those votes for her invalidated based upon the rule of law. I don't care that people chose to ignore her criminality, and in fact regard them as an accessory to crime. This is why she lost anyways. AND this is why we are seeing violent rioting from Hillary supporters, their actions match what you should expect from people who supported a wanton criminal. No remorse or any kind of regret for Hillary's crimes, or their own. A bunch of 100% trash, and if she would have actually won, we would have an even worse thug in the White house than we do with OBama.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: angeldoll
I'm so proud of her. In the face of all the ridiculous slander, libel, attacks on her appearance, her family, she held her head up, and did what she felt she should do. She's a remarkable person who has spent her entire adult life in public service. She's so much smarter than most on the political scene (not even in the same league with her) and has a caring heart to go with it. I hope she will run for Senator again.

Angel, I think she is a pretty remarkable lady. Her last appearance, she looked old and tired, time for her to hang it up. We need to find some young and upcoming Democrats to rebuild the party.

A forty year old would be tired after a two year ordeal like the one she's had. It's an emotional and physical beating. But I agree that pushing seventy is getting on up there for politics.

But it seems to be an individual thing. Some fifty year olds are done and ready to call it quits, while some 75 year olds and beyond that, are in good shape mentally and physically and keep on going. It depends on the person.

Besides, one could say the same about the elect.

She has been vetted for 30 years, and accused of more crap than you or I could imagine. It is time to retire and enjoy the time she has left with her daughter and grandbabies.

Thanks for using the word "crap" because that is precisely was it was/is. Besides, given a choice of someone making successful life decisions, I think I would pick "HER", over any trump supporters. Obviously.

According to the FBI it isn't all crap. Perjury, (felony perjury) And all I need here is just one example because that is quite bad. And that you support a criminal felon for president invalidates your support in the eyes of the good Americans who don't support criminals for president. AND That is why you lost.
AND of course criminals of a feather are going to vet each other. Hillary vetted for 30 years? LOL

See the land? It voted Trump.

See the extra water areas? They voted Clinton.

So just because the water areas are extremely heavily populated, they can out vote the land areas, but you tell me what a "majority" is when it comes to President of the States. It looks to me like the majority of the states were for Trump in the majority of areas.

a reply to: ketsuko

I understand you're trying to say that it's insignificant that for the first time in history a woman won the popular vote for President of the United States... Why are you trying to negate the fact?

Is the truth such a threat? Land masses don't vote. People do. And she won more votes by the people than any of the other candidates. A lot more.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

I have only read your opening post...I wonder how many of those votes were legit?
I keep hearing there was about 3 million voters who it was not legal for them to vote,
but they did. I also heard there were several DEAD people who voted as well.
I am very glad that that woman did not win the election!

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: ketsuko

I understand you're trying to say that it's insignificant that for the first time in history a woman won the popular vote for President of the United States... Why are you trying to negate the fact?

Is the truth such a threat? Land masses don't vote. People do. And she won more votes by the people than any of the other candidates. A lot more.

I'm telling that it's insignificant in the sense that the election is not decided by popular vote. In the majority of this country, the people rejected her as president.

And it is not misogyny, it is her record as a representative of the establishment which most of the country despises and her track record as a lying sack of scum.

Give us a good woman candidate to vote for and I think you'd see a different result in the EC too, and no, Warren doesn't count. She has a lot of the same issues although she isn't quite as entrenched in the American psyche.

a reply to: ketsuko

The fact is, much of the nation mourned her loss. Protests erupted around the country... Hillary Clinton was the right candidate on temperament, character, and issues.

And the people agreed.

Winning the popular vote is significant because it means Trump can't claim that "the people have spoken." They did, but not for him.

Hillarly Clinton won the popular vote?

>131,891,349 total votes

~~~

61,578,949 for Trump

+4,320,306 For Johnson

+1,333,983 for Stein

+517,912 for McMullin

+188,545 for Castle

+970,046 for Giant Meteor

= 68,909,741 DID NOT VOTE FOR CLINTON

- 62,981,308 voted for Clinton



= Clinton LOST the “popularity contest” by 5,928433 votes!

what's so sad and pathetic about this to me is, if the shoe was on the other foot and cliton won the electoral college and trump won the popular vote and republicans were calling fowl. going around saying she's not my president, calling for electors to be unfaithful, calling for the electoral college to be replaced. the democrats would be bitchin about how the republicans are whiners and crybabies. if republicans took to the the streets and started riots, damaging property, blocking roads and highways, beating and attacking hillary voters. they'd be calling for them to be locked up and calling them worse names than they are now.

fact is both trump and clinton won the popular vote. clinton won the popular vote in the nation, trump won the popular vote in states that would win the election. he also carried the majority of the states in the nation. look at the map, you see more red than blue.
trump won 32 of the 51 races listed on Real Clear Politics, clinton won 19.
of the 15 battle ground states listed trump won 8 and leads in one.

fact is everyone knows how our system works. been that way forever. both ran knowing this, people voted knowing this.
why cry now.

two reasons why clinton lost,

first and foremost she didn't campaign in some some states like she should have, she took for granted that those states that normally vote democrat would do so again. she chose poorly. trump and his people knew where they had to go and did just that.

second, i believe many democrat voters in those states saw that she is not the person she makes out to be.pretending to care about peoples needs and concerns. like when she would go to a southern state and put on a phony accent and try to use the vernacular of certain groups. people can tell when someone is sincere and when they are condescending. and if you try and bullsh@@ them in a condescending way their not going to vote for you. there are some people that normally vote democrat that were smart enough to see that hillary wasn't the best choice.

also, i think many in those states that normally vote democrat were apathetic. they saw no good choice so stayed home just like they did in the last congressional election and lost.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

One of the greatest things we lost was an admin with a commitment to green sustainable energy and continued focus on the threat of Climate Change.

That alone makes Hillary the best option. And the people's vote reflect that consensus.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

One of the greatest things we lost was an admin with a commitment to green sustainable energy and continued focus on the threat of Climate Change.

the only reason clinton was committed to being green is it would put some coin in her pocket, don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Have they even counted all the absentee votes that include the military? I've read that many absentee votes aren't even counted if it won't change the results of that particular state, so there is no concrete data that I'm aware of that all vote shave even been counted yet.

Not to mention, there was no consensus for Hillary, not even close. She got less than half of the votes that were cast, and less than half of the populace voted. There are also lots of claims of illegals having voted as well as investigations ongoing into other types of election fraud.

Trump won the electoral college in a landslide. Deal with it.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: spiritualzombie

One of the greatest things we lost was an admin with a commitment to green sustainable energy and continued focus on the threat of Climate Change.

the only reason clinton was committed to being green is it would put some coin in her pocket, don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise.

Fact is you don't really know what you're talking about.

The other more important fact is, regardless of her motivations, commitment to green sustainable energy is the right thing to do. A focus on the threat of Climate Change is the right course to take. Accepting the reality of Climate Change is by far the most intelligent position to take.

It's not so much about a single individual. It's about what they motivate in people.

Hillary motivated equality, kindness, empathy, caring for children and a focus on the importance of Climate Change and being a leader in green sustainable energy.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Caring for children? What about this thing called the "Lolita Express"
and,the Clinton's connection to it?
Climate change...This planet has gone through many cycles of climate
change in it's history. It is only the "elitists" who claim this current climate
change is the result of too many people,using up all the fossil fuels...

I would be more interested in cleaning up the coal industry and tapping
into our own sources of energy.I am all out for solar,wind and anything
that would get people off the grid.The grid is too fragile and needs some
serious overhauling.

Anybody got a link to the official final vote count of the 2016 election??


Seems pretty silly to declare a winner when they are still counting votes and resolving disputes.