Sore Winners: We all MUST do better

a reply to: network dude

Someone somewhere has to start doing it though. I'd say biting your tongue and not playing into the divisiveness does make you better and smarter than those who do, on both sides. Since, as you know, a divided country is much easier to rule for TPTB, you throw a small wrench into their gears as an icing on the cake.

IMO in the end, all power comes from the people of any country, and if they are united they can kick out the corporate mafia, their lobbyists and corrupt politicians.

I doubt we will get to see any of that any time soon, but it's worth a try anyway.

a reply to: Boadicea

I agree in part, but where I draw the line and see absolutely no equivalent is when the sore losers take to violence and their political leadership at best sits silently or at at worst eggs them on.



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originally posted by: ketsuko
I was content to sit back too until people who spent the entire election cycle denigrating their opponents started sucking up and telling us we had to be the bigger people about it as though they hadn't just spent all that time calling us every nasty name in the book ...

Contentment has nothing to do with it. But I would hope that your contentment would only increase knowing that you are the bigger person for all the right reasons -- not because anyone told you to be (well, except yourself telling yourself to be the bigger person). And for the same reasons, I would hope that your contentment wouldn't include lowering yourself to that level you seem to abhor for any reason, and especially not because "they did it first."

I was content until they started riots over losing.

I'll bet dollars to donuts that those violent and destructive rabble rousers are not Hillary supporters but George Soros' hired goons. And since obviously not every single Hillary voter is starting a riot, I would certainly hope your contentment would not allow for throwing every last one of them under the bus.... any more or less than you appreciate every Trump supporter being declared irredeemable and deplorable. Wrong is wrong no matter who does it.

I was content until they started whining about the popular vote v. EC vote.

The perfect opportunity to educate and inform. Explain why the electoral college is what it is, the purpose it serves, and how those fundamental principles work for everyone.

I was content until every other thread was some hyperbolic nonsense about how the world will end because they didn't get their way at the election.

Every other thread? No hyperbole there...

Can't we just move on? No, I guess we can't, and it gets really old.

We will move on, one way or another. We can keep doing what we've been doing... but we can also do better. We can be part of the problem or we can be part of the solution. The choice is ours. I hope and pray we choose wisely.

a reply to: Boadicea

It's funny to watch conservatives expect everyone else to get in line and drink the Koolaid because they totally did when obama won his elections. They totally didn't call him a foreigner pretending to be a US citizen posing as president. Oh wait, Trump led that train of ignorance for almost a decade.

They all are complete hypocrites.

OK, unless you are counting a thread that could be pro-Trump or anti-anti-Trump violence and "spiking the football," then I see what I would call one thread telling people that Trump Won Get Over It on the new thread column.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Boadicea

It's funny to watch conservatives expect everyone else to get in line and drink the Koolaid because they totally did when obama won his elections. They totally didn't call him a foreigner pretending to be a US citizen posing as president. Oh wait, Trump led that train of ignorance for almost a decade.

They all are complete hypocrites.

We don't, but the national days of wearing sack cloth and covering your hair in ashes are a bit extreme.

I get that you are very, very distressed that reports of endless liberal supremacy were greatly exaggerated, but really, it's just four years and then we do this all over again. We lived through Obama. You'll live through this.

originally posted by: Sirrurg
a reply to: network dude

Someone somewhere has to start doing it though. I'd say biting your tongue and not playing into the divisiveness does make you better and smarter than those who do, on both sides. Since, as you know, a divided country is much easier to rule for TPTB, you throw a small wrench into their gears as an icing on the cake.

IMO in the end, all power comes from the people of any country, and if they are united they can kick out the corporate mafia, their lobbyists and corrupt politicians.

I doubt we will get to see any of that any time soon, but it's worth a try anyway.

Well said and thank you for saying it!

(bolding by me -- that cannot be said and emphasized enough)

a reply to: thesaneone

No, I don't think so. Conservatives love attacking liberals and that will not only never cool down but now they are emboldened because their dear leader does nothing but attack anyone who doesn't fall for his cons.

Liberals are never gonna quiet down about this conman being the leader of the free world. I just hope NY attorney general finds him guilty of racketeering, and fast!

Lock HIM UP!

a reply to: ketsuko

What? Sack cloth? Ashes? What does that even mean?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: ketsuko

What? Sack cloth? Ashes? What does that even mean?

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize my reference was a little too spiritually based for you.

It is generally used to denote someone making an extreme show or either penitence or mourning. In this case, it's a national show of mourning.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Boadicea

I agree in part, but where I draw the line and see absolutely no equivalent is when the sore losers take to violence...

I'm blaming George Soros' hired thugs before I blame Hillary supporters --

Soros + Protests

...and their political leadership at best sits silently or at at worst eggs them on.

I, too, find that very disturbing and very suspicious. Especially because I have no doubt they know it is manufactured agenda-driven faux outrage.

And this is why it's so important to focus our criticism like a laser on specific behavior and deeds, rather than squander it on just gloating and mocking and taunting our fellow Americans.

No offense to anyone.. but if everyone is fighting over the dregs we'll all and up with a bitter taste in our mouth. Time for each individual to decide to take the high road.

Before it gets worse. YOU can do it.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Boadicea

It's funny to watch conservatives expect everyone else to get in line and drink the Koolaid because they totally did when obama won his elections. They totally didn't call him a foreigner pretending to be a US citizen posing as president. Oh wait, Trump led that train of ignorance for almost a decade.

They all are complete hypocrites.

I see hypocrites on both sides of the aisle. Both sides criticizing others for the same thing they've done and/are doing... and justifying their own bad behavior by the same bad behavior of the other guy. It's a complete circle jerk.

It is up to each one of us to decide if we are going to be part of that circle jerk. Or if we want to do and be better.

originally posted by: zosimov
No offense to anyone.. but if everyone is fighting over the dregs we'll all and up with a bitter taste in our mouth. Time for each individual to decide to take the high road.

Before it gets worse. YOU can do it.

I just thought that deserved repeating -- and bolding!

Thank you for saying it and saying it so well.

originally posted by: Swills

They all are complete hypocrites.

Please tell me you aren't that #ing stupid.

I really want to believe you aren't.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Boadicea

I would be really happy to quietly sit back and watch things happen, as we don't have anymore say in this than the voting we just did. But in all honesty, the smug, arrogant, assholeish way some lefties are acting, brings out the vindictive side of me that really wants to smack them in the face with a dead fish. I know it's not healthy, or the right way to act, but damnit, being a democrat doesn't make you any smarter, or better than anyone else, it just makes you a democrat.

And the tears and seeking of safe spaces just aids in all the divide and keeping "them" over there and "us" over here.

When everyone wants to be a cohesive part of the United States again, it will be a good day.

I've been laughing at Donald Trump's idiocy since the Howard Stern show. Don't expect it to end anytime soon.

That's what you have to deal with when you elect a reality tv star as your president.

this has nothing to do with Trump. Most on the right would have preferred a better choice, but these are the cards we were dealt. Now, about the smug, arrogance......

That is not how you deal with the opposition in politics.

After you beat them, you don't just play nice and get along, the left doesn't play nice and gets along after they win. You have to keep beating them, and beating them, you have to beat them so much they like getting beat. This isn't a football game, this is about deciding the future of the country, the opposition's policies cannot be tolerated and keeping them demoralized and away from the polls is of utmost importance. Remember what is at stake folks!

a reply to: Boadicea

Being referred to as racist, sexist, xenophobic, basically 'deplorable" from those who still bear the marks of the electoral beating doesn't make things nice around here. But I'm getting used to it.

I'm finding it funny that since the election, we are seeing beatings, death threats, property damage, and all other sorts of violence from those who lost.

I am just thankful that we did win or else their reign of terror would have been sanctioned and far worse.

originally posted by: GodEmperor
That is not how you deal with the opposition in politics.

After you beat them, you don't just play nice and get along, the left doesn't play nice and gets along after they win. You have to keep beating them, and beating them, you have to beat them so much they like getting beat. This isn't a football game, this is about deciding the future of the country, the opposition's policies cannot be tolerated and keeping them demoralized and away from the polls is of utmost importance. Remember what is at stake folks!

This isn't some banana republic or a war lord state. It's a democratic republic that cherishes a smooth and non-violent transition of power. What you are describing promotes the opposite.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Boadicea

Being referred to as racist, sexist, xenophobic, basically 'deplorable" from those who still bear the marks of the electoral beating doesn't make things nice around here. But I'm getting used to it.

I'm finding it funny that since the election, we are seeing beatings, death threats, property damage, and all other sorts of violence from those who lost.

I am just thankful that we did win or else their reign of terror would have been sanctioned and far worse.

Well I for one have never done anything of the sort. But am appalled at the rhetoric being thrown around from every angle. I've never seen anything like it.