I am genuinely concerned about the LGBTQ people, and what they will be facing in a Trump Presidency

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

Its terrible to discriminate against someone with a disability. Im thankful that the law helps prevent it, or i'd end up in jail snapping on someone. I couldn't have lived in pre-civil rights era America.

So many people think its automatic to take care of and accommodate the disabled.

Unfortunately, the opposite is true in everyday life. Most just want you to get out of their way.

We were kicked out of a restaurant, literally asked to leave - - - disabled mom, 3 kids about age 9. 8. 3 - - - because another customer felt uncomfortable.

This is exactly how LGBT are treated, by some, in areas that do not have anti-discrimination laws. Fortunately, many have evolved in acceptance and understanding and fight for their Equality.

Anti-discrimination has to be forced. Sadly.

( - - In case you wondered why I am so passionate about Equal Rights/Equal Treatment)

a reply to: Annee

I do agree with all the "Concerns" of the OP and you in this mater, but let those just be concerns not fears.
Fear can freeze the mind and depress so much you are not able to do anything, so take a breath and wait.

If things are not right you will have not only the Dems on your side but most Moderates and others to call for a change
in any type of statute that is unfair.

a reply to: Annee

Haven't seen that before.

originally posted by: Annee

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- - In case you wondered why I am so passionate about Equal Rights/Equal Treatment)

thanks for that. It helps to understand your position a bit.

a reply to: misskat1

I am bi.

Forget the marriage thing. Why am I afraid? One acronym: FADA. It legalizes discrimination against me based upon religious beliefs.

As for why I'm afraid even more, he's got Pence as a VP and people like Sarah Palin coming in as cabinet members. The thing is? He is delivering the Religious Right their glorious utopia, and people like me are frequently attacked and discriminated against in those places in the country that run like that.

I am afraid because I would like to be able to do simply things like have a job and buy groceries, but I have to legitimately worry about that now.

originally posted by: Hermit777
a reply to: Annee

I do agree with all the "Concerns" of the OP and you in this mater, but let those just be concerns not fears.
Fear can freeze the mind and depress so much you are not able to do anything, so take a breath and wait.

If things are not right you will have not only the Dems on your side but most Moderates and others to call for a change
in any type of statute that is unfair.

I'm personally good. Live near the beach not too far from Hollywood, CA.

Very little in the way of discrimination in my area.

I always say, "I am so thankful I was raised in Southern CA - - - I don't have to unlearn anything".

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Annee

Until we can get past what defines gender, its a moot point.

I, personally, believe our chromosomes pretty much lay it out there. Scientifically, your gender is determined by X and Y.

That is not what science is saying.

I feel sad that you're still holding on to that antiquated thinking.

Brian Brown & NOM are already gearing up.

Science says exactly that. You determine gender via chromosomes. Its just the way it is.

Its not antiquated. Its the facts. XX is woman. Denying this is why this whole conversation is so effed up to begin with. Instead of just saying, "Hey, i am free to do what i want, if you don't like it don't look" people have gone trying to shoehorn it into science.

Psychology is not science. I have respect for psychology...but it isn't science. Even though it may seem such often.

If you are going to deny that XX/XY determines gender, ill need to see what you're basing this on.

ACtually There is another factor under chrosomal i recently learned. Its why soem people have the wrong chromosomes for their outward appeareance. SO no its not always the case.

a reply to: misskat1

Don't be.
This is about the rule of law,
not a "witch hunt" or persecution...
Except for HRC that is.

originally posted by: AnIntellectualRedneck
a reply to: misskat1

I am bi.

Forget the marriage thing. Why am I afraid? One acronym: FADA. It legalizes discrimination against me based upon religious beliefs.

As for why I'm afraid even more, he's got Pence as a VP and people like Sarah Palin coming in as cabinet members. The thing is? He is delivering the Religious Right their glorious utopia, and people like me are frequently attacked and discriminated against in those places in the country that run like that.

I am afraid because I would like to be able to do simply things like have a job and buy groceries, but I have to legitimately worry about that now.

Yes, Dominionism. A very real concern.

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> How the N.W.O. Scientific Theocracy will be Implemented in the US (Ron Paul): www.abovetopsecret.com...
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a reply to: misskat1

Are you not aware of Mike Pence and his stance on the LGBTQ community? It's only a google search away. Plus, GOP controlled gov't will never mean gays get rights. It clearly means gays lose rights, and worse.

a reply to: yuppa

link, please?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: yuppa

link, please?

Sex not so simple

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: misskat1

Are you not aware of Mike Pence and his stance on the LGBTQ community? It's only a google search away. Plus, GOP controlled gov't will never mean gays get rights. It clearly means gays lose rights, and worse.

GAys/lgbtq, have the same rights you do already. You mean Giving us more rights than a straight person.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: yuppa

link, please?

Sex not so simple

This was very important

a reply to: Annee


just realize you will have defenders from what you think are strange quarters too.

and that article that YUPPA just linked to is important.

Never understood why it was not LGBHTQ

victim mentality

all that it is

originally posted by: Hermit777
a reply to: Annee


just realize you will have defenders from what you think are strange quarters too.

and that article that YUPPA just linked to is important.

Never understood why it was not LGBHTQ

Very good article.

I like how they explained it.

so, i just have to ask. What rights specifically are the LGBTQ community lobbying for? what is not equal, marriage notwithstanding ? Personally I do not give a rats butt who can marry who, i think the government should be out of it entirely, but what other rights do you feel are not equal?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: misskat1

Are you not aware of Mike Pence and his stance on the LGBTQ community? It's only a google search away. Plus, GOP controlled gov't will never mean gays get rights. It clearly means gays lose rights, and worse.

I swear Pence is an insurance policy for Trump. Kill me? Look who's on deck..

a reply to: SM2

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