Reports: Emails Had Nothing to Do With Clinton

a reply to: Sillyolme

Still no source or are we to assume the source is your wishes and feelings? I think other members have answered that for you.

Sorry the law is inconvenient for Democrats right now. But the law is the law, and I'm sure we would see you all fired up if this was a Republican we were talking about.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: proximo

You really have to twist things to make her a criminal
The fact that they told her to delete her personal stuff always slips the mind of the right.
She didn't destroy evidence after being subpoenaed.
That's something, another thing, that Trump made up. He invents facts as he goes along.

Hillary, is that You?

Still lying like anyone on ATS believes you except those who are paid too.

If the emails were so important to the investigation about Libya, why didn't they go seize the computer and disks. The government seems to do this to hackers and whistle blowers.

This whole email deletion controversy would be avoided.

originally posted by: roadgravel
PolitiFact Sheet: Hillary Clinton’s email controversy

Let’s take a look at the timeline of relevant events, according to the FBI report. (The most pertinent information is on pages 15-19 of this document.)

Feb. 1, 2013: Clinton serves her last day as secretary of state.

July 23, 2014: The State Department reaches an agreement with the Benghazi committee about producing records for its investigation into the 2012 attack on a U.S. embassy in the Libyan city.

Oct. 28, 2014: The State Department sends an official letter to Clinton’s staff requesting "emails related to their government work." Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall, and aide Cheryl Mills oversaw the review of Clinton’s email archives to produce work-related documents to the department.

Dec. 5, 2014: Clinton’s team provides 55,000 pages of emails, or about 30,000 individual emails, to the State Department. Mills tells an employee at Platte River Networks, which managed the server, that Clinton does not need to retain any emails older than 60 days.

March 2, 2015: The New York Times breaks the story that Clinton used a personal email account while secretary of state.

March 4, 2015: The Benghazi committee issues a subpoena requiring Clinton to turn over all emails from her private server related to the incident in Libya.

Between March 25-31, 2015: The Platte River Networks employee has what he calls an "oh s---" moment, realizing he did not delete Clinton’s email archive, per Mills’ December 2014 request. The employee deletes the email archive using a software called BleachBit.

March 27, 2015: Clinton’s lawyers send a letter to the Benghazi committee saying that the State Department already has the relevant emails, as they were included in the Dec. 5, 2014, turnover.

Trump’s timeline is correct. The congressional subpoena came on March 4, 2015, and an employee deleted the emails sometime after March 25, 2015, three weeks later.

However, the implication — that Clinton deleted emails relevant to the subpoena in order to avoid scrutiny — is unprovable if not flat wrong.

www.politifact.com...

My question is did the Platte River employee do the delete on his own because it was forgotten, or did he contact the Clinton people and verify it should still be done. But I can see his concern over asking since it was to be done when the time period elapsed and he would have not performed his task on time.

When asked who told him to delete, he took the 5th.

Platte River Networks officials, other witness refuse to testify in hearing on Clinton’s e-mail

If they had nothing to do with her then why did Comey, whom all democrats loved up until now, say they were pertinent to her investigation?It must have SOMETHING to do with her.

Or is he incompetent now that he's not covering her ass?

I guess the whore is only as good as its last favor huh.

originally posted by: roadgravel
If the emails were so important to the investigation about Libya, why didn't they go seize the computer and disks. The government seems to do this to hackers and whistle blowers.

This whole email deletion controversy would be avoided.

Maybe because they assumed the Secretary of State was not a criminal and they did not need to worry about her destroying evidence.

But I would agree knowing the history of the clintons that was not a very educated assumption.

a reply to: xuenchen

" When asked who told him to delete, he took the 5th. "



Why would he do that ? It's a Simple Question anyone with a Clear Conscious would Gladly Answer . Unless..........

a reply to: xuenchen

Given Mills originally gave the archive time, it would seem someone else must have gotten involved. Otherwise, why would Platte River be concerned since they did what they were told.

1- Are they paranoid
2- They knew of the issue and did the delete by request knowing it was probably a bad idea.
3- PR management say do it and their job is on the line
4- They don't like Congress

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: xuenchen

" When asked who told him to delete, he took the 5th. "



Why would he do that ? It's a Simple Question anyone with a Clear Conscious would Gladly Answer . Unless..........

Maybe not about self incrimination but about staying alive.

Someone could have paid them a friendly visit.

Trump and his supporters are nothing more than a mob ruled by "feelings". There has been no indication at all that truth or facts are important to them. It's all about their "feelings" that she's guilty of something terrible, rather than any proof of it.

Clinton's response to all of this is very rational... She wants something Trump and his supporters don't want... Facts.

"It’s pretty strange to put something like that out with such little information right before an election" because "voters deserve to get full and complete facts," Clinton said at a campaign rally in Daytona Beach, FL. "If you’re like me, you probably have a few questions about it," she said, arguing the letter's lack of detail allows Republicans to politicize it. 

"Donald Trump is already making up lies about this. He is doing his best to confuse, mislead and discourage the American people. I think it's time for Donald Trump to stop fear mongering, to stop disgracing himself, to stop attacking our democracy," she said. "We can't let him get away with this, can we?" 

It's very disturbing to have an FBI Director engaging in such political games. We live in strange times.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Clinton's response to all of this is very rational... She wants something Trump and his supporters don't want... Facts.

no she wants to know what they have so she can cover her a@@, plain and simple.

Regardless the opinions of those participating in this and other relevant topics, I have not yet read anyone bringing up the relevant elephant(s) in the room:

... if any of those emails were transferred to those device(s) by Huma, are any of them marked as classified?
... does Huma have appropriate privileges to be in possession of those?
... does Huma have appropriate privileges to transfer those to another computer, a shared one at that?
... what would the purpose be for printing out such documents?
... what is the disposition of those printed documents?
... can any of the documents, electronic or printed, if they exist, be traced to Hillary as the source?

I am on the fence on this particular aspect of Hillary's alleged infractions, but the balance is slowly tipping away from unambiguous innocence.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Clinton's response to all of this is very rational... She wants something Trump and his supporters don't want... Facts.

no she wants to know what they have so she can cover her a@@, plain and simple.

She is asking for facts. Regardless of her reasons, I want facts too. We all do... Don't we????

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Clinton's response to all of this is very rational... She wants something Trump and his supporters don't want... Facts.

no she wants to know what they have so she can cover her a@@, plain and simple.

Possibly.

Worth noting that if these are part of an ongoing investigation, they can and should not be haphazardly released, by Clinton or FBI authorities, particularly if any contain classified information. And that's to her benefit: we can't know what's in them until the process has run its course.

That is why people are asking about the details. Maybe Clinton had nothing to do with it. Huma looks to be culprit but that's what more details would resolve, just her or others. And is the data old or something new.

originally posted by: paradoxious
I am on the fence on this particular aspect of Hillary's alleged infractions, but the balance is slowly tipping away from unambiguous innocence.

Maybe in your mind... but for people who need facts to based a judgment on, we're all in the dark. This is a political move. To announce this investigation, despite all the warnings how it interferes with an election, and not offer any FACTS is to feed right into Trump's hand... He and his mob don't need facts... They are the uneducated mob that chants "Lock her up"... They go on feelings alone. It's extremely shady for the FBI Director to be acting independently like this.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Trump and his supporters are nothing more than a mob ruled by "feelings". There has been no indication at all that truth or facts are important to them. It's all about their "feelings" that she's guilty of something terrible, rather than any proof of it.

Clinton's response to all of this is very rational... She wants something Trump and his supporters don't want... Facts.

"It’s pretty strange to put something like that out with such little information right before an election" because "voters deserve to get full and complete facts," Clinton said at a campaign rally in Daytona Beach, FL. "If you’re like me, you probably have a few questions about it," she said, arguing the letter's lack of detail allows Republicans to politicize it. 

"Donald Trump is already making up lies about this. He is doing his best to confuse, mislead and discourage the American people. I think it's time for Donald Trump to stop fear mongering, to stop disgracing himself, to stop attacking our democracy," she said. "We can't let him get away with this, can we?" 

It's very disturbing to have an FBI Director engaging in such political games. We live in strange times.

NO. This has been said already if dear Hillary already wanted it released she would release it. It's her server.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: AboveBoard

If I am spinning stories without facts, then you can't really dispute the because you don't know the facts either.

Fact. The FBI is investigating issues links with Weiner's electronic devices.

Fact. During their investigation, they (the FBI) found something that has caused them to look at Hillary.

Fact. Everyone on the left is crapping their pants, including the Hillary campaign.


Questions.
Why doesn't Huma just release all her sent emails to Weiner's computer?
Why doesn't Hillary just release all her emails to Huma?

They (the Hillary campaign) has ALL THE INFORMATION. They could release everything and end this right now. It could have ended last night.

But they didn't.

DBCowboy , you Truly Are the Kwisatz Haderach !



" He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing "


" He who Controls the Server, Controls the Truth ! "

Clinton is asking for all the facts because she knows he can't release them. Don't be fooled by this nonsense.

You can't release the details and evidence of an ongoing investigation to the public. Comey isn't going to be baited into that.

It's an empty boast from her. "Release the evidence! I have nothing to hide"...knowing full well he cant.

originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: xuenchen

" When asked who told him to delete, he took the 5th. "



Why would he do that ? It's a Simple Question anyone with a Clear Conscious would Gladly Answer . Unless..........

Maybe not about self incrimination but about staying alive.

This is the Life we Choose............I Guess.

Someone could have paid them a friendly visit.