BREAKING: Early Voters Report Voting Machine Manipulation In Texas!

originally posted by: gmoneystunt

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Yes, there are multiple issues with voting machines and have been since 2004. They have "benefited" both parties.

Prove that these issues have ever had a direct effect on any national election.

Why don't you prove they benefit both parties equally? How can I prove how frequently it happens in order to prove it has an effect on an election? Some people do not notice the calibration issue occurring and mis-marking their votes

Sure ... the anomalies with voting machines that have been noted or discovered in the last 12 years have sometimes changed votes for Republican candidates as well as Democrats. These anomalies are usually discovered and dealt with.

If you can't prove how frequently issues with voting machines happen, you have no argument that this is having an effect or indeed could have an effect. Now, if you want to state that you're expressing your opiinion that there could be problems, that there exists the POTENTIAL for problems (benefiting either "side") then I absolutely agree with you.

This whole electronic voting machine fiasco is a prime example of the worst qualities of big government intervention: the low-bidders were given the contracts, they provided garbage hardware and software, and then Federal funds were cut leaving the States (even more notoriously incompetent than the Feds) to find their own solutions, which have basically been to deny the problems exist.

HOWEVER ... to claim that any of that is part of a vast conspiracy on the part of Democrats to steal elections is patently absurd.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

So your OP made various assertions that have been shown to be false ... and you want us just to ignore that blatant fact and listen to the rest of what you have to say?

The electronic voting machines in this country are a mess. Stipulated.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Gryphon66

I will admit that the person who wrote the OP misworded that.

But the result is the same. It is concerning that Soros has influence and financial ties to the manufacturer of voting machines, considering his considerable attempts to influence the election in other ways.

You're blaming the OP now???

Ludicrous.

You were wrong or you lied. If you were wrong, you've had several opportunities to correct your statement and you didn't bother.

So, that leaves one conclusion: you're blatantly dishonest in your posts.

I have no reason to continue to speak with you.

There's a good number of State Attorney Generals that disagree.
Voter fraud cases are now in the thousands.
Colorado and Kansas have teamed up and are presently investigating 10K cases.
The majority are Democrats double voting.

You are going to see some very aggressive prosecutions this time around.

Buck

Smartmatic website

Smartmatic will not be deploying its technology in any U.S. county for the upcoming 2016 U.S. Presidential elections.

• Our election technology has handled more than 3.7 billion votes over the past 12 years in election projects on five continents, without a single discrepancy.

• As a technology provider, Smartmatic is only responsible for, and concerned with, the technical aspects of the vote. Smartmatic does not comment on specific candidates or outcomes.

• Smartmatic’s voting technology has never been compromised.

originally posted by: flatbush71
There's a good number of State Attorney Generals that disagree.
Voter fraud cases are now in the thousands.
Colorado and Kansas have teamed up and are presently investigating 10K cases.
The majority are Democrats double voting.

You are going to see some very aggressive prosecutions this time around.

Buck

Give us a link?

Or should we take your word for it?

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: shawmanfromny

The only way for old Hillary to win is to cheat, steal and add to the body count...

Or run against Donald Trump.

She couldn't have asked for an easier opponent.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Smartmatic website

I was just going to post that! No need now since you beat me to it

To anyone concerned about voting with electronic ballots/machines, in at least some states (perhaps all, I'm not sure), the voter can request and receive a paper ballot; though I believe paper ballots are still counted by machines so it doesn't completely eliminate room for abuse... Nevertheless, I intend to ask for one when I vote.

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Smartmatic website

I was just going to post that! No need now since you beat me to it

To anyone concerned about voting with electronic ballots/machines, in at least some states (perhaps all, I'm not sure), the voter can request and receive a paper ballot; though I believe paper ballots are still counted by machines so it doesn't completely eliminate room for abuse... Nevertheless, I intend to ask for one when I vote.

Great minds.

That's a great proactive solution. I looked for a list of states that we could ask for that in.



a reply to: slider1982

It is a paper and pen system. The ballots are marked with a pen filling in a circle next to their candidates name.
All the way down.
President
Senate.
House
Dog catcher
etc...
Then you feed the paper into the scanner which tally your vote. Then the machine collects these ballots beneath the scanner in a locked cabinet for collection when the vote time is over.
Then the board of elections which consists of republicans and democrats collect the ballots and call the tallys from the machine.

There are other methods but this is the most common. The machines are not connected to the internet.

There are a few electronic voting machines connected to a central database but again not to the web.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You should not use Smartmatic as your source to deny manipulation

“[Smartmatic founder Antonio] Mugica has been at the helm of a company specifically created for intentional manipulation of electoral rules. The only time Mr. Mugica’s electronic machines (were) subjected to a fully independent audit in Venezuela — Fila de Mariches, Nov. 23, 2005, in the presence of EU and OAS electoral observers — it was demonstrated that the secrecy of votes was compromised. That (was) the only and last time the Venezuelan opposition (was) allowed anywhere near a Smartmatic voting machine.

www.philstar.com...

a reply to: Gryphon66

I hope you can find one. Folks may have to check their own states to find out. I was trying to find a list too but no luck, and I have to get going. Too much to do lately!!!

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: shawmanfromny

The only way for old Hillary to win is to cheat, steal and add to the body count...

Or run against Donald Trump.

She couldn't have asked for an easier opponent.

Right....and she's still having a bloody hard time beating him.....

originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: Gryphon66

You should not use Smartmatic as your source to deny manipulation

“[Smartmatic founder Antonio] Mugica has been at the helm of a company specifically created for intentional manipulation of electoral rules. The only time Mr. Mugica’s electronic machines (were) subjected to a fully independent audit in Venezuela — Fila de Mariches, Nov. 23, 2005, in the presence of EU and OAS electoral observers — it was demonstrated that the secrecy of votes was compromised. That (was) the only and last time the Venezuelan opposition (was) allowed anywhere near a Smartmatic voting machine.

www.philstar.com...

Strawman, I'm not denying "manipulation." Your source, however, is an opinion blog.

I've been very clear in my claims here and have backed them up.

Toss your red herring to someone else; I find the smell distasteful.

originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: shawmanfromny

The only way for old Hillary to win is to cheat, steal and add to the body count...

Or run against Donald Trump.

She couldn't have asked for an easier opponent.

Right....and she's still having a bloody hard time beating him.....

Yeah, I guess a 97 to 3% likely margin of victory is a "bloody hard time."

This gets more ridiculous by the post.

www.nist.gov...

nist.GOV = National Institute of Standards and Technology

SEQUOIA VOTING SYSTEMS, INC. USES VOTE
-COUNTING SOFTWARE
DEVELOPED, OWNED, AND LICENSED BY FOREIGN-OWNED
SMARTMATIC, A COMPANY LINKED TO THE VENEZUELAN GOVERNMENT OF HUGO CHÁVEZ

U.S. national security is potentially at risk because software used to count
votes in 20% of the country during U.S. elections is owned and controlled by a
Venezuelan-run company with ties to the Venezuelan government of Hugo Chávez,
which has been described as “the foremost meddler in foreign elections in the Western hemisphere.”
Foreign-owned and foreign-run Smartmatic’s control over vote
-
counting software used in the voting machines of Sequoia Voting Systems, Inc.
(“Sequoia” or “SVS”) presents a potential national securityrisk now just as it did in
2006 when the U.S. Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (“CFIUS”)
opened an investigation of Smartmatic’s ownership of Sequoia.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Your reference is eight years old.

a reply to: Gryphon66

That trick don't work with me bud.
I was going to refer you to Kansas Attorney's Generals Office but since you have no credentials, they won't talk to you.
So you can use Google like everyone else.

I could give a lot more, but I'll not compromise on going criminal investigations.

Buck

Are these the only machines in Texas?

If no who owns them?

a reply to: Gryphon66

In January 2008, representatives of Chicago, Illinois, which suffered from
malfunctions in Smartmatic-developed software that delayed by a week the tabulation
of the vote in the 2006 mid-term federal primary and that led to 15 or more
Smartmatic agents coming from Venezuela to Chicago to help the city complete vote tabulation, wrote to Sequoia President and Chief Executive Officer (“CEO”) Jack Blaine for information in an effort to confirm that “Smartmatic and the government of Venezuela have no ability to influence or controlthe new owners of Sequoia.”
Sequoia’s letter response dated January 18, 2008 has been described in the media as “deceptive,” “knowingly false,” and a continuation of “evasive” and “troublesome” sworn testimony provided in 2006 by Jack Blaine, then-President of both Sequoia and Smartmatic Corporation.

n April 2006, the City Council of Chicago held hearings after election results
were delayed a week due to problems using Smartmatic’s Hybrid Activator
Accumulator Transmitter (“HAAT”) software to count the March 21, 2006 primary vote.
Fifteen or so Smartmatic personnel, including Smartmatic senior executive and shareholder, Roger Pinate, flew in from Venezuela to staff a behind-the-scenes war roomat the City of Chicago’s election headquarters where votes from all over the city
were being counted.

Jack Blaine also then professed not to know who ultimately owned Smartmatic and confirmed that Venezuelans working for Smartmat
ic have access to the Sequoia voting machine software, including the sourcecode.

www.nist.gov...