DSP Satellites and Fastwalkers

Here's the email that Podesta received from Fish and forwarded to Leslie Kean:

Podesta files ID# 30433

Date: 2015-03-06

John – Just tuck this in your UFO files for future reference.

One of the government programs that collects hard data on unidentified flying objects is the USAF DSP satellite program. I can add a little insight to rumors published on the web. While I was never fully briefed into the DSP operation directly, I was introduced to them as the US prepared for Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm.

On occasion, I had lunch with a few of them in the cafeteria of a highly classified organization in El Segundo, CA. No one could get into the cafeteria without TS/SCI clearances, so this was not “lightweight group of gossipers.”

One of these times, a member of that group was really excited – said they’d just picked up Fastwalker (I assumed that same day). He described how it entered our atmosphere from “deep space” (origin actually unknown, of course, but from the backside of the satellite) and zipped by the DSP satellite pretty closely on its way to earth.

Not only was it going very fast but it made a 30 degree course correction (turn) which means it did not have a ballistic (free fall) reentry trajectory that a meteorite might have. So, it was under some sort of control – although whether it was “manned” or just “robotic” there’s no way to tell.

Although its now 24 years later, one factoid makes me think the USAF is still collecting information on these Fastwalkers. Reading the current official USAF “DSP Fact Sheet” there is this line near the end:

In addition, researchers at The Aerospace Corporation have used DSP to develop portions of a hazard support system that will aid public safety in the future. www.losangeles.af.mil... Also, much of the information on this site is accurate although I do not know the author or his sources:

ufodigest.com...

Somewhere within that USAF program office is many year’s worth of Fastwalker data. If someone were to collect and analyze it, patterns will emerge that provide information about the various types of craft and their destinations, which would add substantiation to eyewitness claims on the ground about UFO activity.

Furthermore, it would be interesting to understand the dates of these appearances – is there a certain time of the every year they swarm in (which might indicate a resource mining operation) or might there be a correlation with major events on earth, (such as the detonation of the first atomic bomb at White Sands in 1945 although no DSP’s existed to provide any info on that particular event)?

Regards,

Bob Fish"

And here's another one from Mr. Fish that TheMadScientist2 found:

ID # 31721

To: [email protected]
Date: 2015-03-06 18:10
Subject: Leslie Kean book - Blue Book

John – Just tuck this in your UFO files for future reference too.

Recently, I noticed this Sentry Eagle information, even though the original book was written in 1998: exopolitics.org... I don’t know Dan Sherman and I don’t know if this non-ECI program is real.

Caveat – I did work with Ft. Meade on several classified communications projects, including President Reagan’s dedication of the new HQ building in September 1986 when I was a contractor to WHCA. But this report did trigger the memory of another event that may be of use should you ever want to follow up on the UFO stuff.

In that same TS/SCI building cafeteria in El Segundo, I had lunch with a senior USAF NCO who had worked for Project Blue Book in the 1970s (after it had been “officially disbanded). He was an ELINT technician (electronic intelligence) who flew in RC-135s from MacDill AFB in Florida. The “normal” target was Cuba where they did lots of snooping and sometimes challenging the Cubans to turn on radar and other systems.

He said there were times when they were diverted from these missions to track UFOs off the east coast of Florida. His claim was they UFOs had a landing and takeoff spot in the ocean east of Miami, north of Bermuda. He also claimed there was a specific electronic signature (frequency) emanating from them when they were going into or coming out of the water, so they were easy to track.

On several occasions they filmed the UFO as it transitioned from water to air or vice versa. One last item is he was occasionally assigned to fly in a USAF weather aircraft (WC-135) when they had a hurricane hunting mission over the usual UFO area, where his specific assignment was kept secret from the other crew members.

He would always report back to a dedicated USAF intelligence officer on base when they returned from a mission. He did not know where the intel that he collected was sent for processing or storage (WPAFB in Dayton would be the obvious choice). High quality film of UFOs is “out there” somewhere!

So, if true, Blue Book was not disbanded – only the outer layer of the onion (the “public information layer) was stripped away in 1970. And, this may be part of the Sentry Eagle program with the USAF and NSA sharing UFO elint information. Might be some leads in that area too.

Regards,

Bob Fish

a reply to: intrptr

I take it you didn't bother to look up the e-mail.
Well, I admit it was clumsy to try to link to the mail directly, but I'm sure you could have managed to find it if you had tried :-)

Atlantis, as far as I can tell, does not come into it, and would probably not be easily found with DSP satellites.

BT

ETA: And now, if you look above this post, you can read it despite my clumsiness, thanks to seentoomuch

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: seattlerat


OK, you have baited us big time! I assume that "demonic origin" is a descriptive term to represent alien equipment. Given what you said about his work, how did he view the general concept of UFOs?

I grew up with a fascination of the UFO phenomenon and grilled adults for their views/opinions to the point of being an annoyance. Grandpa wasn't thrilled about discussing the topic with me, but, as I mentioned, he didn't say that they (UFOs/Flying Saucers/Fastwalkers) didn't exist or were swamp-gas or lens flares. I only remember one instance where he specifically described an incident that detailed his own experience with this topic; I suspect his reluctance to discuss it was due to his security oaths and his wanting to not fuel my interest in something he considered to be "evil". If I remember correctly, he viewed the general UFO topic as a "deception". Grandpa was a religious man, so his belief system must certainly have played a role in how he interpreted his experiences. However, he was a brilliant man, a legitimate genius working with technology that is probably still top-secret and I never had any reason to doubt or dispute his experiences or views.

This information has always conflicted with my own belief system and any attempts to convince me that this topic was dangerous and to be avoided backfired. Unfortunately, Alzheimer's took Grandpa from this dimension a few years ago, so I can't talk to him about this until I join him in the next plane of existence (if there is one).

well done. finally something from the Podesta files that may be worth while. I'll take a look into this when I can.

That there are alien visitors we al know. What amazes me is the technical language and the resources spent on tracking their activities.
Seams that our governments know that alien ships, either robotic or manned are visiting the Earth and they have activity patterns of their activities and correlate them to events or activities in the ground.

So the disclosure is merely a mater of out governments finding out what do these aliens come here for. Looks like they don´t want to tell us that they don´t know who they are and what´s the purpose of their visits.

This is a gem:

His claim was they UFOs had a landing and takeoff spot in the ocean east of Miami, north of Bermuda. He also claimed there was a specific electronic signature (frequency) emanating from them when they were going into or coming out of the water, so they were easy to track.

On several occasions they filmed the UFO as it transitioned from water to air or vice versa. One last item is he was occasionally assigned to fly in a USAF weather aircraft (WC-135) when they had a hurricane hunting mission over the usual UFO area, where his specific assignment was kept secret from the other crew members.

They have bases. We can track them.

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

You are probably familiar with the late Bill Cooper, radio talk-show host and author of "Behold a Pale Horse"...

Mr. Cooper claimed that he had an experience that jives completely with information contained in the "gem" email. For those not willing or able to watch the video: it is a brief snippet of an interview with Bill where he describes an experience he had while serving on a US Navy submarine. He claims to have witnessed a "UFO" fly up out of the ocean. This incident is also in the book I linked beginning at the end of page 18, and then continues on page 19.

originally posted by: CrapAsUsual


So the disclosure is merely a mater of out governments finding out what do these aliens come here for. Looks like they don´t want to tell us that they don´t know who they are and what´s the purpose of their visits.

Correct! People need to stop proclaiming that they know exactly the who's, the what's, and the where's of the UFO phenomenon. My belief is that no one knows who or what they are. The reason the most powerful nation on planet Earth has zero comment on the subject and has for decades gone as far as to disceminate disinformation on the subject is quite likely because they were able to get a close look that them/it and it scared the s&;+ out of them.

a reply to: Paddyofurniture

It may also have something to do with the fact that the big-bully on the block who likes to impose it's will on anybody with different views or with something it wants does not want to admit that they are powerless to prevent these "crafts" from entering their airspace. The incidents that involved UFOs activating or disabling nuclear missile installations that have been reported (if true) surely scared the shaving cream out of the bully.

Robert Hastings re: UFO's & Nukes

Thumbs up. Guess politics sell, old school above top secret? I miss the old school.

Denny

In one of the emails to Podesta from Fish:

His claim was they UFOs had a landing and takeoff spot in the ocean east of Miami, north of Bermuda.

.. does not make any sense, as Bermuda is around the same Latitude as North Carolina.

a reply to: beetee

I don't see that Podesta ever replied to these emails unless I am missing something? To me this just seems like a guy emailing Podesta and being ignored because crazy...

a reply to: charlyv

Seems like he meant "Berumuda Triangle".

a reply to: raymundoko

In this case he forwarded the mail to Leslie Kean.
I also suppose that there are more e-mails to come, because they do not seem to release them in any particular order that I can see.

It is also possible that he replied through other channels. Or not at all, of course.

If you look at the DeLonge mails, the correspondence is also somewhat one-sided, but the google hangouts meeting invite was sendt by podesta as far as I can tell. Which I suppose must mean that there were correspondence before that we have not seen.

The DeLonge thing is well covered in other threads on this forum, by the way, so I only mention them here to contrast wirth a similar seemingly one-sided exchange.

Maybe there will be more, or maybe it is indeed one-sided, but Mr. Fish does not seem like just any kind of lunatic to me. Which does not, of course, mean that the information he gives is accurate :-)

There is also (this is ATS after all) the possibility that the e-mails were sanitized or altered before the "hack". This to present the reality that the leakers wanted presented. This could be with, or without, the cooperation/consent of Mr. Podesta.

What a tangled web we weave :-D

BT

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: beetee

I don't see that Podesta ever replied to these emails unless I am missing something? To me this just seems like a guy emailing Podesta and being ignored because crazy...

I haven't seen in any of the Wiki Podesta UFO themed e-mails that he has replied or had any recognition of the content their-in (Edgar Mitchell, Delonge etc). But I think this one is different in that it's a potentially credible source and the subject is also of potential credibility. No mention of Alien gods giving us free energy. Just a reality based topic. If UFOs, what ever "they" are , are visiting Earth, the DSP system would be a great place to start looking for proof. Personally its topics exactly like this one that renews my faith in researching the UFO phenomena.

a reply to: Paddyofurniture

I agree with you. And I suspect that NORAD have tracked a lot of things through the years, both on radar and via satellites that they are not willing to admit to.

Anything else would be negligent, because having unknown radar and sensor footprints whizzing around really isn't somehing you can live with if you are going to protect your own and allied airspace.

What Paul Dean has uncovered (se my post above) about unknowns over Vietnam in the late 60's, demonstrates quite clearly that they were not negligent at all. On the contrary, they were both scrambling jets and writing reports, as well as having conferences. Just the response you might expect.

I cannot see any possible benefit in not tracking and attempting to identify unknowns at all.

BT

a reply to: beetee

Leslie Kean is an author of fiction and Podesta wrote her forward for a 2010 book, he obviously likes the subject.

The OP premise is dishonest. I could just as easily search for viagra and hope Podesta received some spam about E.D....

If Podesta replied and gave input this would be worth talking about. As is it's nothing more than what appears to be unsolicited contact which he forwarded in to a colleague of his.

Or...this is project blue beam research...

a reply to: raymundoko

I am not trying to convince anyone that the mail itself constitutes proof of anything. I am merely pointing out that this individual, who at one time claimed to have been present in El Segundo, have sent an e-mail with a pointer to what he believes is an interesting treasure trove of data, which might yield something tangible about this phenomenon.

He is claiming knowledge that such tracks do exist in this database, based on something he claims he overheard.

If you have an argument as to why this data would not be valuable for research into the UFO phenomenon, please present them to the thread, and we can discuss them.

BT

I'm starting to think Podesta is just another agent of disinformation.

I mean, he was the counselor of Obama, and BFF of HRC... THEY both know the truth about UFOs.

If it's man made phenomena or extraterrestrial, they KNOW!

Why would they let Podesta research and spread he's an enthusiast? I'm almost certain that John Podesta knows the true, then why he acts like this?