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DSP Satellites and Fastwalkers
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Someone on this forum recently hinted that it might be interesting to search the leaked Podesta e-mails for the term “Fastwalker”. So, of course,
I did. And it was indeed very interesting.
The mail is dated 6th of March, 2015, and is from Robert B Fish, or Bob Fish, who has written a book about the recovery of the Apollo 11 Capsule. You can read more about him on his web pagesl. He has also seems to have worked in several unnamed Technological companies, with technologies that has both commercial and National security applications.
Now Bob Fish writes Podesta about something he experienced in the cantina of a “highly classified organization in El Segundo, CA” and relates to the USAF DSP satellite program. (Los Angeles Air Force Base and The Aerospace Corporation are located in El Segundo).
This is the mail: Leaked e-mail
It describes, as you can see, a very interesting track where an object seemed to enter the sensor view from the outside, and moved in a manner which indicated it was under intelligent control.
The webpage indicated in the e-mail which Mr Fish seems to indicate to be very accurate it’s written by Tim Swartz and the link is here: Link to article on ufodigest.com
Now wouldn’t it be interesting if there existed a treasure trove of tracks such as the one described in this e-mail, and we could compare that with known events? Mr Fish seems to believe that this kind of data has been gathered by DSP satellites, and that it indeed still is.
There have been various purported leaks about the so called “fastwalkers” and that it is a term used to describe fast moving, unknown tracks on radar and other sensor platforms, by operators which see them on their screens. There is a great thread here on ATS that have many pieces of information on this, and related, subjects. The thread is called “NORAD and the UFO Smokescreen” and you can delve into it here. It deals in a large part with the work done by Paul Dean and published on his blog. Paul Dean himself joins the thread, so worth a read.
Some links worth checking out if you too think this is interesting:
This is a thesis called “Oribit Determination Of Sunlight Illuminated Objects Detected By Overhead Platforms” from someone at Wright Patterson AFB published in 1989. The term "Fastwalker" is used throughout the paper, and there is reference to DSP data being gathered from 1972.
The Defence Support Program (DSP) fact sheet (referenced in the mail, but since moved)
I, for one, think this is very fascinating.
BT
The mail is dated 6th of March, 2015, and is from Robert B Fish, or Bob Fish, who has written a book about the recovery of the Apollo 11 Capsule. You can read more about him on his web pagesl. He has also seems to have worked in several unnamed Technological companies, with technologies that has both commercial and National security applications.
Now Bob Fish writes Podesta about something he experienced in the cantina of a “highly classified organization in El Segundo, CA” and relates to the USAF DSP satellite program. (Los Angeles Air Force Base and The Aerospace Corporation are located in El Segundo).
This is the mail: Leaked e-mail
It describes, as you can see, a very interesting track where an object seemed to enter the sensor view from the outside, and moved in a manner which indicated it was under intelligent control.
The webpage indicated in the e-mail which Mr Fish seems to indicate to be very accurate it’s written by Tim Swartz and the link is here: Link to article on ufodigest.com
Now wouldn’t it be interesting if there existed a treasure trove of tracks such as the one described in this e-mail, and we could compare that with known events? Mr Fish seems to believe that this kind of data has been gathered by DSP satellites, and that it indeed still is.
There have been various purported leaks about the so called “fastwalkers” and that it is a term used to describe fast moving, unknown tracks on radar and other sensor platforms, by operators which see them on their screens. There is a great thread here on ATS that have many pieces of information on this, and related, subjects. The thread is called “NORAD and the UFO Smokescreen” and you can delve into it here. It deals in a large part with the work done by Paul Dean and published on his blog. Paul Dean himself joins the thread, so worth a read.
Some links worth checking out if you too think this is interesting:
This is a thesis called “Oribit Determination Of Sunlight Illuminated Objects Detected By Overhead Platforms” from someone at Wright Patterson AFB published in 1989. The term "Fastwalker" is used throughout the paper, and there is reference to DSP data being gathered from 1972.
The Defence Support Program (DSP) fact sheet (referenced in the mail, but since moved)
I, for one, think this is very fascinating.
BT
a reply to: beetee
That link to the email does not work.
Certainly, they track UFOs, I've mentioned that Ben Rich in his book "Skunk Works" mentioned twice that they would call NORAD and clue them in that there were planning to test a Blackbird and NORAD should not assume that it was a UFO (his word).
That link to the email does not work.
Certainly, they track UFOs, I've mentioned that Ben Rich in his book "Skunk Works" mentioned twice that they would call NORAD and clue them in that there were planning to test a Blackbird and NORAD should not assume that it was a UFO (his word).
a reply to: beetee
Your first link is busted- remove the index.html- here it is corrected (Robert Fish Webpage): FIXED LINK
Great thread- there is a documentary titled "Fastwalkers" that I thought was very intriguing when I viewed it some years ago. An unnamed relative of mine (Grandpa) working for an unnamed aerospace company (Boeing) on an unnamed aircraft (AWACS E3A) confirmed that these things exist, but are of demonic origin and I should avoid them at all costs.
Your first link is busted- remove the index.html- here it is corrected (Robert Fish Webpage): FIXED LINK
Great thread- there is a documentary titled "Fastwalkers" that I thought was very intriguing when I viewed it some years ago. An unnamed relative of mine (Grandpa) working for an unnamed aerospace company (Boeing) on an unnamed aircraft (AWACS E3A) confirmed that these things exist, but are of demonic origin and I should avoid them at all costs.
edit on 10252016 by seattlerat because: (no reason given)
a reply to: seattlerat
OK, you have baited us big time! I assume that "demonic origin" is a descriptive term to represent alien equipment. Given what you said about his work, how did he view the general concept of UFOs?
OK, you have baited us big time! I assume that "demonic origin" is a descriptive term to represent alien equipment. Given what you said about his work, how did he view the general concept of UFOs?
The link to Bob Fish's page also doesn't work, but I found this:
www.earthfiles.com...
which does seem to have the emails.
My cursory glance at the page puts me in mind of the Ed Mitchell thread, where much play is made of someone with a connection to Apollo (in this case an indirect one) who firmly believes in UFOs and knows someone who knows someone who knows something that someone else said, but has no direct experience themselves.
www.earthfiles.com...
which does seem to have the emails.
My cursory glance at the page puts me in mind of the Ed Mitchell thread, where much play is made of someone with a connection to Apollo (in this case an indirect one) who firmly believes in UFOs and knows someone who knows someone who knows something that someone else said, but has no direct experience themselves.
a reply to: seattlerat
Thank you for fixing the link and for your insights.
I really do apologize for having both forgotten that we are not allowed to link directly to wikileaks and for messing up the link to the webpage of Mr Fish.
BT
Thank you for fixing the link and for your insights.
I really do apologize for having both forgotten that we are not allowed to link directly to wikileaks and for messing up the link to the webpage of Mr Fish.
BT
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo
Thank you.
My point in linking to the hompage of the sender of this e-mail was only to put some context into who this person might be. If he was in this "top secret" cafeteria, he would have to had cause to be there, so who the person is becomes relevant. If this was someone who had not in any way, shape or form worked with anything related to national security technologies, we could probably just have dismissed this as another piece of fiction.
But since this person, given the kind of work he has been doing, might very well have been present at this cafeteria, it seems at least plausible that he overheard what he claims did. This does not constitute proof of any kind, of course, which we would only get from the airforce if they choose to show us the relevant track and give us their take on it. And even then, all we would have would be an informed opinion.
It is also possible that he did overhear this conversation, but that he somehow misunderstood what he heard. But it seems rather strange that people should get excited about a sensor anomaly.
BT
ETA: The link you provided does not seem to have the mail I was refering to, but does indeed provide some other interesting e-mails from the same person.
Thank you.
My point in linking to the hompage of the sender of this e-mail was only to put some context into who this person might be. If he was in this "top secret" cafeteria, he would have to had cause to be there, so who the person is becomes relevant. If this was someone who had not in any way, shape or form worked with anything related to national security technologies, we could probably just have dismissed this as another piece of fiction.
But since this person, given the kind of work he has been doing, might very well have been present at this cafeteria, it seems at least plausible that he overheard what he claims did. This does not constitute proof of any kind, of course, which we would only get from the airforce if they choose to show us the relevant track and give us their take on it. And even then, all we would have would be an informed opinion.
It is also possible that he did overhear this conversation, but that he somehow misunderstood what he heard. But it seems rather strange that people should get excited about a sensor anomaly.
BT
ETA: The link you provided does not seem to have the mail I was refering to, but does indeed provide some other interesting e-mails from the same person.
edit on 26-10-2016 by beetee because: (no reason given)
Just thought it would be useful to add a few interesting facts to this discussion, which highligts the many problems with drawing too many conclusions
from the above:
Space debris: There is an estimated 700 000 pieces of space junk in earth orbit from human activities.
More on this from ESA at this link
Satellites: There are around 3600 satellites remaining in space that are known, which does not include possible numerous classified programs conducted by various governments, which might not yet have been disclosed or discovered. Little information about this is publicly shared. Source ESA
As you can see from this, there is indeed a lot of stuff out there that we have put into space ourselves. As long as the complete picture is so imperfect, it is in fact entirely possible that a team of US operators might have been tracking an asset from another country capable of manouvering, or even an US asset that they were not briefed about. That is the price one pays for a high degree of compartmentalization.
Just some added points to take into consideration.
BT
Space debris: There is an estimated 700 000 pieces of space junk in earth orbit from human activities.
More on this from ESA at this link
Satellites: There are around 3600 satellites remaining in space that are known, which does not include possible numerous classified programs conducted by various governments, which might not yet have been disclosed or discovered. Little information about this is publicly shared. Source ESA
As you can see from this, there is indeed a lot of stuff out there that we have put into space ourselves. As long as the complete picture is so imperfect, it is in fact entirely possible that a team of US operators might have been tracking an asset from another country capable of manouvering, or even an US asset that they were not briefed about. That is the price one pays for a high degree of compartmentalization.
Just some added points to take into consideration.
BT
a reply to: Chadwickus
Is that not a picture from 1978?
This is was allegedly from the run up to the first Gulf War . It also deals with DSP satellites tracking an object with a curious trajectory, entering its sensor view from above and performing a 30 degree turn.
So I guess it was not this object.
BT
Is that not a picture from 1978?
This is was allegedly from the run up to the first Gulf War . It also deals with DSP satellites tracking an object with a curious trajectory, entering its sensor view from above and performing a 30 degree turn.
So I guess it was not this object.
BT
edit on 26-10-2016 by beetee because: (no reason given)
a reply to: Chadwickus
No, I'm afraid there is not a picture.
Just the story relayed in the leaked Podesta email i tried (and failed) to link to in the OP.
You can search for the email id though and read for yourself.
I just thought it was interesting. But I'll admit a picture, or plot or official document would be better :-)
BT
No, I'm afraid there is not a picture.
Just the story relayed in the leaked Podesta email i tried (and failed) to link to in the OP.
You can search for the email id though and read for yourself.
I just thought it was interesting. But I'll admit a picture, or plot or official document would be better :-)
BT
That was interesting, and now I'd kind of like to read Leslies' book.
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