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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SaturnFX
protesting to disrupting levels sucks and is scummy
but is it illegal?
Not sure of the exact law, but I keep hearing that it is illegal to coordinate with SuperPACs.
According to this article, punishment for coordination between candidates and outside groups is rare, but I think this level of coordination, and the methods that were being used, are quite unprecedented.
A close reading of FEC regulations reveals that campaigns can do more than just publicly signal their needs to independent groups, a practice that flourished in the 2014 midterms. Operatives on both sides can talk to one another directly, as long as they do not discuss candidate strategy. According to an FEC rule, an independent group also can confer with a campaign until this fall about “issue ads” featuring a candidate. Some election-law lawyers think that a super PAC could share its entire paid media plan, as long as the candidate’s team does not respond.
Creamer implicates Hillary in breaking FEC campaign laws by saying it was her idea and that she and her campaign illegally and directly coordinated her plan with a PAC.
originally posted by: butcherguy
Creamer says that the word came from the top (Hillary) about which way to go with the idea.... whether Uncle Sam or Donald Duck.
Hillary can not legally direct the operations of a political action committee.
Meaning that her decision to use Donald Duck was illegal collusion with a PAC.
originally posted by: kruphix
Unless the candidate is personally at the meetings and personally telling them what to do...it isn't illegal.
“This criminal conspiracy involves the knowing and willing creation of coordinated expenditures from prohibited corporate sources,” said the Project Veritas complaint filed by Benjamin Barr, who previously served as counsel to two FEC chairmen.
www.washingtontimes.com...
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: butcherguy
Creamer says that the word came from the top (Hillary) about which way to go with the idea.... whether Uncle Sam or Donald Duck.
Hillary can not legally direct the operations of a political action committee.
Meaning that her decision to use Donald Duck was illegal collusion with a PAC.
You have a videographer that literally has been prosecuted before for creating grossly out of context hit-pieces through excessive editing.
Who refuses to release full footage.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: queenofswords
Don't bother. They can't really be that thick. They just pretened to be because right now they think the machine works for them.
originally posted by: burntheships
originally posted by: kruphix
Unless the candidate is personally at the meetings and personally telling them what to do...it isn't illegal.
False.
“This criminal conspiracy involves the knowing and willing creation of coordinated expenditures from prohibited corporate sources,” said the Project Veritas complaint filed by Benjamin Barr, who previously served as counsel to two FEC chairmen.
www.washingtontimes.com...
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: butcherguy
Creamer says that the word came from the top (Hillary) about which way to go with the idea.... whether Uncle Sam or Donald Duck.
Hillary can not legally direct the operations of a political action committee.
Meaning that her decision to use Donald Duck was illegal collusion with a PAC.
You have a videographer that literally has been prosecuted before for creating grossly out of context hit-pieces through excessive editing.
Who refuses to release full footage.
It was a misdemeanor. So if you've ever had a traffic infraction you are as much a criminal as O'keefe.
And are you really willing to sit through hours and hours of footage? Probably not, so get off that lame horse.
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: butcherguy
Creamer says that the word came from the top (Hillary) about which way to go with the idea.... whether Uncle Sam or Donald Duck.
Hillary can not legally direct the operations of a political action committee.
Meaning that her decision to use Donald Duck was illegal collusion with a PAC.
You have a videographer that literally has been prosecuted before for creating grossly out of context hit-pieces through excessive editing.
Who refuses to release full footage.
It was a misdemeanor. So if you've ever had a traffic infraction you are as much a criminal as O'keefe.
And are you really willing to sit through hours and hours of footage? Probably not, so get off that lame horse.
The people he sets-up in the video would very much like a chance to "sit through hours of footage"...they have actually demanded it.
O'Keefe has refused to release broader or unedited footage to ANYONE..cuz it doesn't fit his story.
Love a liar if it works you and strokes your world view..
Otherwise, answer why he won't post the undoctored footage anywhere for anyone's perusal.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: queenofswords
Don't bother. They can't really be that thick. They just pretened to be because right now they think the machine works for them.
I never said anything like that.
Those are YOUR words and YOUR thoughts.