TOP10 Basic items you must own to survive World War 3

Considering that the vast majority of a nuclear exchange would be between countries in the northern hemisphere, buy a fast boat and get as far south of the equator as it will carry you. Preferably Antarctica.

a reply to: Spacespider

Not at all, as long as they are mentally prepared for extreme circumstances. I don't think most people are. I think most will simply give up when the devastation gets too bad.

A radiation suit is of little use when the wearer is too confused or devastated to put it on. A survival tool does no good when someone doesn't know how to use it.

A radiation suit can be very useful if the wearer has the presence of mind to don it while everyone around them is dying in front of their eyes. A survival tool is wonderful when the user can construct a small animal trap from it.

That's the difference I was pointing out.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I think you're being overly optimistic about life after a nuclear war at this point. There's a reason it's called Mutually Assured Destruction.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: TheRedneck

I think you're being overly optimistic about life after a nuclear war at this point. There's a reason it's called Mutually Assured Destruction.

This thread is not about the people that get turned into ash in a flash..
its about those that are at a distance far enough to start moving away from cloud..
these items can make your chances higher of survival when making the escape, no guaranties

a reply to: mOjOm

Optimistic?

I thought my attitude was pessimistic.

There will be survivers... there always are. Unless you're at ground zero, you can survive. It just gets harder the closer you are. But you'll be one of the few, and you'll have no one to protect you. If you eat, you'll have to eat from nature, not from a kitchen. If you want to go somewhere, you'll have to walk. If you get hurt or sick, you'll have to heal yourself. If you get caught by the most dangerous animal known (man), you'll have to fight your own way out of trouble.

There's going to be a lot to rebuild afterwards. I could use some help. That's why I want to let folks know what to expect.

TheRedneck

No one is staring work war three. Not Putin and not Hilary.

Honestly, I think you doom porn people WANT it to happen.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: conspiracytheoristIAM

lifestraw is not for filtering out radiation...
You can read more about it on their website.

I knew that....thought you would see the sarcasm. I'll make it simpler....anything suggested in the video is a waste of time (I think), if there is a nuclear war.

a reply to: TheRedneck

You really only need three:

Common sense
Determination
Luck

In various amounts on various days.

If the Cubs win we know we're done.

I am always saddened by the people for whom the phrase "Nuclear War" casts a spell that causes them curl up in a ball and give up. Every scenario is unique and different.

We have been told to view the A-bomb as a "city buster" because of the fatalities in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The eventual death-toll (a year after the blast) was about 26% of the population.

If you live in the city of ______________, you have a 74% chance of surviving the detonation by at least a year.

Most of what separates the survivors from the dead will be their response to fallout radiation---the 5 days after the initial blast.

The initial death-toll will occur under the parasol of the mushroom-cloud. But at least half the deaths will occur in the 50 miles or so downwind of the blast. Radioactive dust is heavier than air. It will collect on rooftops and roadways as well as yards and sidewalks. When it rains, streams of fallout-laden run-off will form puddles that will give off measurable amounts of radioactivity. Breathing or eating the dust, or letting it get in your eyes, will be what kills most people.

You can build a fallout meter that doesn't require batteries, from household products, and monitor your total radiation dosage.

There are tens of thousands of people who lived within 100 miles of the Chernobyl facility who are still alive, 3 decades later.

Deciding you are going to live is the biggest factor in actually surviving a survival situation.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: TheRedneck

I think you're being overly optimistic about life after a nuclear war at this point. There's a reason it's called Mutually Assured Destruction.

Do yourself a favor and read Wikipedia: Mutually Assured Destruction. You'll learn that the originator of the phrase didn't believe it would ever actually obtain in the real world, when it comes to nukes.

The only time "MAD" was US military doctrine was under Robert S. McNamara---the coot who lost Vietnam.

By 1980, the Democrat Carter administration had dispensed with MAD as an empty philosophical exercise that could not be maintained as a realistic threat.

Afterward, it became merely a hippie slogan for why we should give up.

originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: conspiracytheoristIAM

lifestraw is not for filtering out radiation...
You can read more about it on their website.

I knew that....thought you would see the sarcasm. I'll make it simpler....anything suggested in the video is a waste of time (I think), if there is a nuclear war.

So you survived and you are moving towards a safe location away from cities. on your way you get thirsty..
All the water treatment plants in your area are destroyed..
would you like to drink water unfiltered bacteria heavy, or do you want to filter your water and avoid potential sickness, becoming sick in a world without medicine or doctors.. I prefer using it , why the hell not.. its easy to carry around and cost almost nothing. .. I mean why the hell not...

a reply to: Spacespider

When I was in school, they always said to duck and cover - under our desks! Everyone should own a school desk, it's the only place you'll be safe!!!



Oh and also make sure you order enough Domino's Pizza for everyone!

a reply to: redempsh

Ya, it's a bunch of hippie stuff. Typical way to try and discredit something. Call it a hippie thing that involves us giving up.

You should do yourself a favor and stop viewing the world like a TV show of video game where you pack up your little bug out bag and some weapons and go off into the world of Mad Max being some after world hero.

For example: B83, the most powerful thermonuclear weapon currently in the US’ arsenal, yields 1.2 million tons equal to about 200 square miles of devastation. America has 650 B83s. That's just one type. I wonder what Russia or any of the other nations with nuclear weapons have too??

Nobody is "giving up". The fact is that between the U.S. and Russia we have enough Nukes to destroy the earth multiple times over. Besides getting hit with the blast you have to consider the other damage done and results of that too. Like nuclear plants no longer operational and the resulting waste material everywhere. Radiation killing off more life and making land useless on a planet that is already experiencing extinctions of life 1000 times faster than the normal. Land and sea and air already damaged or poisoned being then hit with nuclear waste. That's a full attack though.

Odds are we'll see a terrorist attack and single nuke being set off and not a full release by any major power. In that case, just don't be near where it happens. But a full attack and retaliation would be unthinkable. We're set up to retaliate by submarine after the first strike so as to make sure there will be a retaliation too. Which means nobody gets a first strike win. Not possible. You launch, you will have return strikes. Nobody wins. That's the idea. Because if nobody can win then there is no point in starting it in the first place.

I might be the only one that gets this reference. do-do do-do do-do do-do
a reply to: Junkheap

Items needed to survive WW3:

1. Black Triangle
2. DUMB (Deep underground military base)
3. A country full of people to hype up for war and send into the meat grinder.

We're screwed.

So for starters, this fantastic website will give a decent idea of if you will survive the primary blast and the secondary effects of a nuclear detonation

Nuke Map

What do you need? Its kind of going to depend on location and situation. Are you by yourself or have a family with you. Do they have medications that they need to survive etc.

1) Guns and Ammo. More of the latter IMHO its good for barter and great for defense.
2) While filters will not deal with radiation, unless your in a primary blast area, dehydration will kill you pretty fast.
3) A decent first aid kit. I have god like skills in my ambulance or chopper, but what if I do not have any of those resources? Its basic medicine time so take a wilderness first aid course. Most people medical skills are over-rated because they are dependent on the supply chain and resources of a major hospital.
4) Basic survival gear as needed
5,6,7) The aforementioned positive attitude / traits
8) A plan that is flexible: Do I stay or do I go, where do I evac too etc.
9) Communication gear (not an essential item but helpful) and perhaps in a small farday cage to avoid EMP effects
10) Vehicle that you can repair on your own.

Also, use your gear. People in brand new 'Tacticool" outfits will stand out and draw attention IMHO.

originally posted by: Spacespider
TOP10 Basic items you must own to survive World War 3

All you really need is a Swiss army knife and lots of Tang!
(What is so great about 'surviving' in Hell?)

Seriously, why should "you" survive?
How is the world and humanity a better place with "you" in it?
There comes a moment where we all take our final breath, there is not anything that can ever be done to alter that moment (or any other!), to hasten it or to avoid it!

It is not about that moment, then, it is about this moment, Now!
How are 'you' being "the change you want to see"?

originally posted by: namelesss
Seriously, why should "you" survive?
How is the world and humanity a better place with "you" in it?
There comes a moment where we all take our final breath, there is not anything that can ever be done to alter that moment (or any other!), to hasten it or to avoid it!

Do not go gentle into the night, Rage Rage against the dying of the light................

Humanity is absolutely a better place with me in it. And until my time arrives, I will keep up the fight..... Plus lets face it with that kind of defeatist attitude, 'The Walking Dead" would never have gotten past its pilot episode LOL

originally posted by: FredT

originally posted by: namelesss
Seriously, why should "you" survive?
How is the world and humanity a better place with "you" in it?
There comes a moment where we all take our final breath, there is not anything that can ever be done to alter that moment (or any other!), to hasten it or to avoid it!

Do not go gentle into the night, Rage Rage against the dying of the light................

Yeah, that's one Perspective, a common one, but I wouldn't want my last act to be kicking and screaming against a perfectly natural and inevitable event.
It might show how I have learned nothing after all these years. *__-

Humanity is absolutely a better place with me in it.

I only ask such a question rhetorically.
Oddly, all one needs to do is to counterbalance (with how humanity was better...) a single feather on the scales at the 'gate', to pass.
How difficult could that be? *__-

We're set up to retaliate by submarine after the first strike so as to make sure there will be a retaliation too. Which means nobody gets a first strike win.

a reply to: mOjOm

Exactly. There are many ways to deliver a nuke, not just land based missiles. We also have nukes based in other countries which we have agreements with in case such an attack would occur. There's likely other ways to deliver nukes in which the public has no knowledge. This first strike talk is nothing but posturing. Both Russia and the U.S. know a first strike would destroy both countries.

What the world needs to worry about is ignorant tyrannical leaders like Kim Jong of North Korea.