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Trump Up 2 Points Nationwide, While Clinton Campaigns As If The Race Is Already Won

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posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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After the last debate he would need a miracle to make a comeback. I will not vote for either of them, but his chances look dead to me.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Hate shouldn't enter into it. She's not coming over for dinner.
She's not joining your book club.

She's the best qualified

I'm glad we can agree that women think and are not feckless emotion driven beings.
Peace,
Karen
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posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
Maybe, but you post like a Democrat and employ the same tactics so don't congratulate yourself to hard.a reply to: olaru12



Thank you. I take that as a complement to be on the winning side. I'll congratulate myself when I unfurl my "I told you SO" banner after the elections.

If Trump won't be a gracious loser, I'm not going to be a gracious winner. Deal with it!



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: CulturalResilience

No. I think for myself.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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We are all going to lose.


The establishment will punish us for not choosing one of their own.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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Honestly even if this is the case, thats still well within the margin of error.........

I would NOT be happy if I was Trump and thats where I was at, 1 state if that could swing that wildly the other direction....



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

No they're not half truths.

I know what I'm talking about because I too do the leg work.

And I'm just wondering if any of you supporters put any money where your mouths are with donations to his campaign?

I did. I study I learn I contribute. I couldn't find a local office or I would have been campaigning too. I saw a big sign yesterday outside a store front. I'm going tomorrow to see if that's a campaign office. If it is I'm going door to door too.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Hate for the crimes she has committed.
Hate for her manipulation of our justice system so that she is not punished for her crimes.
Hate for jeopardizing national security with a complete disregard for the implications.
Hate for making deals with other countries and using her government positions for personal greed.
Hate for abandoning Americans to die in Benghazi for political reasons.
Hate for lying to us, repeatedly, regarding Benghazi and the cause of it, and hundreds of other serious matters.
Hate for manipulating and controlling the media so that we never hear the truth from them.
Hate for her hatred of Americans... us little people.
Hate for jeopardizing the safety of Americans by opening our borders to anyone and everyone.
Hate for compromising our economy in favor of other countries.
I could go on and on.

This has nothing to do with her personality (although I hate that too), or not wanting to have dinner with her.
This has to do with a level of corruption that is terrifying, and which she used to get where she is.
She is not someone that should be trusted with leadership of our country.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Of course I have contributed to the Trump campaign.
I have a sign in my yard, and proudly wear the button everywhere I go.

And - there is a campaign headquarters about 5 minutes from me.
They are always busy there



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

What about your hate for Trump for being the one that couldn't beat her?



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: JinMI

No they're not half truths.

I know what I'm talking about because I too do the leg work.

And I'm just wondering if any of you supporters put any money where your mouths are with donations to his campaign?

I did. I study I learn I contribute. I couldn't find a local office or I would have been campaigning too. I saw a big sign yesterday outside a store front. I'm going tomorrow to see if that's a campaign office. If it is I'm going door to door too.

They are half truths.

I've been putting money into democratic policies for the past 8 years.
Yes, but would you hold her accountable for her actions? I know I certainly would no matter what letter in front of their name.

You may spend, vote and speak on or about anything you wish.

You've made your point over and over Silly. No matter the consequences or moral/ethical boundaries crossed, they do not matter, only your candidate.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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Take it as a compliment if you like but know that it was not intended as such.
a reply to: olaru12



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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Rare among modern Democrat voters it seems.


originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: CulturalResilience

No. I think for myself.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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The only thing Trump is leading is the GOP into a disaster of an election. And as much as the GOP is trying to separate itself from Trump by saying he is not a Republican or he is not a Conservative, it is to little to late.

People who do not thing the polls are legit are welcome to not buy into them. The candidates have their own polling that they make every decision based on.

Public polls tell us that Trump is losing in key battle ground states and that he is weak in several red states. Does what the Candidates are doing match that? Trump is putting resource he has into the battle ground states, while Clinton is now expanding resources into certain red states. That tells us that their polling is telling them the same thing public polling is telling us.

The GOP has moved on from even trying to get Trump elected and now has its focus on trying to save the down ticket from being taken down by Trump as well.

The Real Clear Politics average now has Clinton with a 5.9 lead. The only thing at this point that could change the course of the election is if Clinton voters see the election as such a blow out that they do not bother to show up expecting it is already won. That of course since the Trumps debate failures has been the focus of DNC campaigning. Do not get to comfortable you still have to go out and vote. Considering the hate from Trump that does not seem likely.

In this election the real things to be watching are things like how many red states go blue? Georgia, Utah, Arizona, Texas, have now become battle ground states. Trumps debate failures, Russia love and lack of self control have wrecked him in there solid red states.

Also the new goal for the GOP is ticket splitting. Getting Republicans who can not stomach Trump to come out and not vote for Trump but, to at least vote GOP on the down ticket. Will it work?



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:08 PM
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And somewhere along the line thoughtful and responsible needs to enter into this too.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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The loyalty of politicians is malleable and doesn't account for much. In the event of a Trump victory all these detractors within the party would be lining up to kiss his boots and try and spin their words and actions into positive. Should Trump win some surprising magnanimous gestures might be seen on his part. Almost certainly more than we would see from a victorious Clinton.
a reply to: MrSpad


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posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Because I don't buy into the Alex Jones church of hating Hillary. I don't get any info from drudge, I look to debunk the conspiracies and that has proven to be very easy. That out of the way the record is what it is and she's worked and put in the time. And she's sensible and not easily baited and not a hot head.

I don't think she's perfect. I don't think that's possible in Washington. I think she bears the scars of her very public private life and guards herself. I know she's close and secretive. That doesn't change the fact that she's smart she can get across parties she has a resume that would impress the pope and she's ready to do this.
If you can look beyond trumps faults why not hers. At least she knows the turf.
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posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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The fact that every poll over samples democrats and trump is either leading or within margin of error says alot. Even the latest poll sampled the Republican party even lesser than independents! That means trump has more democrat support than people think. The only poll that matters is nov. 8.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Then please, by all means. Show us the debunked information.

Government is not a career path you can advance at simply by showing up (unless your in congress apparently). You feel that because she has been there all this time, she is somehow entitled? I don't see a track record of success nor do I see her putting the American people, undivided as a whole ahead of herself or her ambitions.

Also, I do not visit the church of AJ. Does Drudge report news or does he report reports of news? I get my information from many sources. The more sources that match the better. One would think that after digging for facts, they would be able to see spin and bias in a news story.



posted on Oct, 23 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: mkultra11
The fact that every poll over samples democrats and trump is either leading or within margin of error says alot. Even the latest poll sampled the Republican party even lesser than independents! That means trump has more democrat support than people think. The only poll that matters is nov. 8.


What reality are you living in?

Seriously. Nothing that you said above is factual.
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