UFO Lights over Charlotte NC 15 October 2016

Call me a skeptic but why would you need flashing lights on an Alien craft?

OR on one of the supposed super secret black triangles?

Both are supposedly capable of incredible agility so no real point in having lights on the damn things as a warning, kind of defeats the point really!

But hey what do I know, I'm just rational

originally posted by: beetee
a reply to: raymundoko
The human eye is a pretty good piece of optics compared to a mobile phone, and although this is hardly proof of anything, I think it is a strong indication that these things are actually above the lowest cloud layer.

Yes, but absolutely horrible at size and depth judgement without good reference points.

I does seem to stay below the clouds, there are points in the video a light is flashing in front of solid cloud cover.

As far as the flashing, if it is indeed lighted balloons, they would naturally "flash" every time the light pointed away from you.

Please look at the piece of the video from 0:46 after he has zoomed in. Note how the three lights indicated below seem to move together. I concede that the movement is indeed balloon-like, but for this degree of syncronization I should think all of these three lights would have had to be on some sort of frame - or indeed on one large balloon.



I guess if one went through the whole movie looking for syncronized movement other groups could be identified, and we could get some kind of idea how many objects with lights on there were.

I think there are video editing tools that allows you to track things throughout a movie, although I don't have access to one myself (unless it can be done in Photoshop?)...

Maybe someone could try that?

Now this frame or large balloon would have to be invisible at the height they were at, which we of course can only guess at.



BT

a reply to: Vector99

Well, try as I might I simply cannot see that it is obvious that these lights are below the cloud cover.

Perhaps you can point me to a relevant section of the video that you feel amply demonstrates this, and I can look at it some more?

BT

a reply to: TheBogmonster

First I think we need to dispense with the idea that UFO means Alien craft, which is not something in any way implied by the term "Unidentified Flying Object". It is simply an unidentified flying thing in the sky, and many people are of course interested in finding out what it is.

If we can agree on that, we can proceed to the possibility that this could be some kind of Alien craft, which it might of course. Since it is unidentified it could be anything at this point. Ducks, balloons, drones, secret military technology, alien craft, weather phenomenon, fish falling from the sky, holographic technology, kites...

Now, is it likely that this is an "alien craft"? Well, how are we supposed to know? Nobody has ever produced a bona-fide alien craft, so there is nothing to compare it to. Lacking anything to compare it to, we cannot really say that this looks like an "alien craft" or that it doesn't.

As for navigational or warning lights, if an alien craft (for the sake of argument) were to exhibit lights I would be more inclined to think that it was more as a result of some technology that serves some other function (propulsion for instance), and what we interpret as navigational lights had nothing to do with navigation or collision avoidance.

It is a well know fact that a lot of marine animals run around with bioluminescent lights on, which has very little to do with navigation or collision avoidance. You know this, of course, but here is a video which is pretty cool.



So I guess what I am trying to say is that:

1. UFO does not mean "aliens"
2. Lights does not imply "navigation"

BT

a reply to: Springer

Whatever it is, it has, in my opinion, a technological, regularity to it, like a pattern the way the lights go on and off. It doesn't appear to be a natural phenomenon in other words.

Very strange. Thanks for sharing this.

originally posted by: Dan00
a reply to: Socrato

Nice one

Ah, thanks.

Here's some more bats:

George Knapp? You're fired.

Entire city of Charlotte NC? You are fired by proxy.

Have a nice evening.

Bats in the LUXOR light!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. Mark? You were almost fired; but you're the boss, and all.

No mate, you need so sack yourself.

a reply to: Springer

Exactly, they only appear to be above the clouds when he isn't zoomed in...

However see my other post concerning charlotte fog which is quite normal this time of year. It was pointed out to me by a co worker who is an ex-charlotte local.

a reply to: beetee

That's not even a good triangle and totally possible if the balloons are tied together.

Well the benefits of being a sceptic is you actually don't need any clarification, it's just simple dismissal of anything that's actually close to interesting (based on the amounts of views and content / Springer making an appearance here)

But we can always play the what if game if we want:-

. What if the lights are a necessary factor based on propoltian technology that we are currently unaware of and don't fully understand?

. What if the craft (if it is an actual craft) has cloaking technology and it malfunctioned

. What if the craft just didn't care who saw its lights in the sky just as our ones do and wanted to make a statement?

So many more variables I don't care to mention, the old school (UAP with lights means fake argument is invalid, and should not distract us from looking at cases more in depth)

- My point is I've reserved judgement on what those lights in NC but to dismiss at as a (sceptic)
How boring!

99.9% chance those lights aren't anything at all,
but come on its 2016 - the sceptic card has been played out.

Not directing this at you, but my statement is it's easy to dismiss anything as a sceptic but that's no way to move forward in anything scientific in nature.

a reply to: raymundoko

That's not even a good triangle and totally possible if the balloons are tied together.

Well, what is a good triangle anyway? A triangle is a triangle.

I agree this is possible if ballons are tied together in a manner that forces them to move in unison. I doubt you could manage that with string but would need something a bit more inflexible.

I also suggested that it might be one object with three lights, for instance one larger balloon.

But do you agree they seem to move together?

BT

a reply to: Springer

Interesting video, I always wonder why would UFO's have lights on them?

a reply to: beetee

I do agree they move together, as it seems they are all tied together with string and being carried together by the wind. I believe the triangle was just a random configuration as it took 4 minutes if video to get there.

a reply to: Springer

Super cool! I wish I had been there!! I have to wonder if any military bases are in that area.

a reply to: ugmold

Why would UFO's NOT have lights on them???

Lets just assume, just for a minute, things like these are alien and they do come from another planet... it is dark in space, isnt it? So, why would they NOT need lights?
If there are other physical life forms, they why is always assumed, they wouldnt need lights??
Does another life form automatically mean, they can see in the dark??
Even if they are technologically way more advanced then we are, their physicalities could still be very similar to ours and they may not be able to see in the dark any better then we can

Personally, I think, they do it on purpose, for us to see them...

a reply to: raymundoko

Steam and fog??? Seriously???
Then shouldnt we see this phenomena in much bigger cities then Charlotte all the time? Where there are many more restaurants and much more steam and fog? And how does steam and fog then produce little blinking lights???

Steam, fog, bats, led ballons on very long *ss strings.... Come on people, why are you trying so hard to debunk a sighting like this? At least come up with something a bit more reasonable. Why is it sooooo impossible to be something not from this world???

Im not saying it is an alien craft, but by definition a UFO. Could be something earthly, could be military, I have no clue. But it IS also possible to be something else

a reply to: Springer

OK, there are 8 military bases in North Carolina including the infamous Fort Bragg. I had to look it up.

My question is -- is there something going on at one of these bases which attracted the attention of the source of these lights and whoever is responsible for the lights is letting the military know they are being watched?

a reply to: justbe

You do see it in big cities, especially New York where I live part time...I didn't realize it happens often in Charlotte too. Do you know what fog is?

a reply to: tweetie

Why would they use balloons tied together to let them know?

a reply to: raymundoko

So if we are in agreement that some of them move together, how many independent frames with balloons do you find in your analysis?

BT