Trump easily wins 2nd debate MSM trying to spin it against him.

Ok an outsiders opinion once again but first let me start with this . 324 plus million people and you come up with these two . Trump won but not by much , but it comes down for me as to who can you trust the most . Once again not much to choose from but here goes . Lets start with trump , he took the criticisms of him on the chin , did not deny them or try to deflect . His answers to questions tended to waiver at times from the question but one question he did not waiver from was the Muslim one . He said his mind tonight and a lot better than i thought he might . Overall a much better effort than his first . Hillary . hmmmm . The last question of the night kind of sums her up for me , she couldn't find one thing that she likes about trump . That IMO was a mistake as it immediately brought the word deplorable to mind , nevermind the fact that she ended up making it about herself . Apart from that she stayed mostly on track but it was all me me me when she went of track . So to sum up Trump won in a much better performance overall . Your officials choices now are , a snake , and something lower than a snakes butt .

a reply to: imjack

you really gonna go here,

there were 8 corrupt investigations followed by a shady meeting on board a airplane by the Attorney General and her husband.

jailing equal rights activist women.

ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, do you really think hillary wants everybody to have equal rights?

Grambler:

If you don't mind me asking, where are you from?

Oh dear, my dear Grambler, you have me shaking my head in disbelief. From my first post to this thread, the one you responded to...

Question: Do Americans have the faculties of perception and discernment? Being a Brit, I hope that they do.

Grambler:

What have you done as a private person to stop the globalist agenda?

I voted against the EU, which would have been the first of the globalist dominoes to be fully erected if Britain had voted for the EU. Brits will not vote in such a way as to negatively impact upon the rest of the world.

Its easy to cast blame on people, but most people are just trying to live their lives. They have a family, they are trying to feed their kids. Along comes Obama and he promises change, and boom more of the same. The media tells people 24/7 how Trump is worse than Hitler, how Hillary is good, how Obama is great, how the country is doing great, how we need to open the borders, etc. People don't wake up until they are at their last resort. The fact that Trump has had the success he has shows to me that people are starting to get there.

What you wrote in the above quote is the reason why I asked my first question regarding perception and discernment. Some issues are more important than one's own personal daily life, because if certain social issues are not addressed correctly, the consequences could lead to having no personal life at all.

It is a simple fact, societies sustain the personal lives of citizens because the citizens address the issues of society in an informed way. Society becomes wayward and skewed when the citizens leave important issues to be addressed by self-interested parties...when they stop demanding that checks and balances be maintained.

The American people abrogated their responsibility to their country by leaving the important issues of American society to self-interest groups, and said nothing when it was shown that the checks and balances had become irrelevant.

If the ordinary American man and woman truly want America to be 'great' again in some way, they first need to disconnect from the crooked system they currently participate in. It will be damaging to the country as a whole, but unfortunately, there is no way around this...you have to dismantle to rebuild. We Brits voted to disconnect from the EU, because we knew that it would be far more damaging to Britain to vote for the EU than to vote against it. Both carried a consequence, and so we voted to accept the damage from disconnection and to rebuild Britain again as Britain.

Bill Clinton has multiple rape allegations and took 26 flights on Jeffrey Epstein's "Lolita Express" pedophile Boeing 727 (where he left secret service detail off 5 of those flights), not to mention the Monica Lewinsky scandal.. And that's all we know... Just imagine the stuff we don't know, but lets make a giant deal over something Trump said a decade ago.... Not sure why Bill's always getting a pass.. Hillary has stayed with this man, she should have to answer for the things her husband has done, if Trump has to answer to the things he's done in the past..

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Willtell

No , Donald Won that Debate , and he didn't Pussy Foot around it either .

He spanked her like she paid for it!

Quote of the year, right there.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

The lady you reference has either been coached, or intimidated. She looks like she can't wait to get out of there.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: imjack

you really gonna go here,

there were 8 corrupt investigations followed by a shady meeting on board a airplane by the Attorney General and her husband.

jailing equal rights activist women.

ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, do you really think hillary wants everybody to have equal rights.

oh right. totally the same thing, my bad. I forget sometimes the slimmest of parallels are considered identicals to Trump supporters.

So watching MSNBC (ack) and of course they are on about how Trump said he would jail her.

One taliking head says basically he said he would appoint a prosecutor, but the fact that he said she was guilty proves it wouldn't be a fair investigation.

As opposed to Obama, who said there wasn't a shred of a chance that Hillary did anything wrong before any investigation. But will they point out this hypocrisy? Of course not.

originally posted by: Grambler
So watching MSNBC (ack) and of course they are on about how Trump said he would jail her.

One taliking head says basically he said he would appoint a prosecutor, but the fact that he said she was guilty proves it wouldn't be a fair investigation.

As opposed to Obama, who said there wasn't a shred of a chance that Hillary did anything wrong before any investigation. But will they point out this hypocrisy? Of course not.

That 'hypocrisy' only exists in your butchered context.

Obama wouldn't disagree she was guilty of what she was accused of. His comment is to shed doubt it meant anything important or vital information was lost. Do you contextually believe he's saying she never leaked/deleted emails? Can you understand basic English?

originally posted by: Grambler
So watching MSNBC (ack) and of course they are on about how Trump said he would jail her.

One taliking head says basically he said he would appoint a prosecutor, but the fact that he said she was guilty proves it wouldn't be a fair investigation.

As opposed to Obama, who said there wasn't a shred of a chance that Hillary did anything wrong before any investigation. But will they point out this hypocrisy? Of course not.

She IS guilty, but since Trump can't be a judge and a prosecutor, it would be up to a court to prove or disprove guilt, and that is assuming Hillary would plead not guilty. If she did and loses she would get out of prison sometime after just her bones are bleaching in the sun, so maybe a plea deal..

originally posted by: Phage
Cool. He's going to circumvent the legal system and jail Hillary.

Awesome.

Who else?

Hm. Journalists that say mean things about him? Law makers that disagree? People on the internet who said mean things about him? (Oops. Guess I better worry.) Mark Cuban?
Hey, Someone needs to put those FEMA camps into action that Alex Jones is always talking about!

I keep thinking about the movie Brazil.

originally posted by: imjack

originally posted by: Grambler
So watching MSNBC (ack) and of course they are on about how Trump said he would jail her.

One taliking head says basically he said he would appoint a prosecutor, but the fact that he said she was guilty proves it wouldn't be a fair investigation.

As opposed to Obama, who said there wasn't a shred of a chance that Hillary did anything wrong before any investigation. But will they point out this hypocrisy? Of course not.

That 'hypocrisy' only exists in your butchered context.

Obama wouldn't disagree she was guilty of what she was accused of. His comment is to shed doubt it meant anything important or vital information was lost. Do you contextually believe he's saying she never leaked/deleted emails? Can you understand basic English?

Federal agents were still cataloging the classified information from Hillary Rodham Clinton’s personal email server last week when President Obama went on television and played down the matter.

“I don’t think it posed a national security problem,” Mr. Obama said Sunday on CBS’s “60 Minutes.” He said it had been a mistake for Mrs. Clinton to use a private email account when she was secretary of state, but his conclusion was unmistakable: “This is not a situation in which America’s national security was endangered.”

Those statements angered F.B.I. agents who have been working for months to determine whether Mrs. Clinton’s email setup did in fact put any of the nation’s secrets at risk, according to current and former law enforcement officials.

Investigators have not reached any conclusions about whether the information on the server was compromised or whether to recommend charges, according to the law enforcement officials. But to investigators, it sounded as if Mr. Obama had already decided the answers to their questions and cleared anyone involved of wrongdoing.

www.nytimes.com...

Hmmm. Seems folks at the FBI thought that Obama was saying she was innocent of wrong doing before the investigation was over.

originally posted by: Willtell
CNN POLL HILLARY WON!

It was a very tawdry debate. Trump had the grace of a wolverine in heat.

He won it hands down. Thank Goodness he took his gloves off. Evil murder incorporated thugs need to be in jail, her, Obama, Bill, Soros and the Bushes, to name just a few.

a reply to: imjack

oh right. totally the same thing, my bad. I forget sometimes the slimmest of parallels are considered identicals to Trump supporters.

yes it is your bad.

again, go back and read my earlier posts, i'm voting for limberbutt, and if you care check my posts on trump. i've said time and time again i don't like either one and will call out lies every time i see them.

and what are you calling a parallel? the question you asked about who can appoint a investigation when they suspect a crime.
there is nothing slim about it.

obama suspected that or wanted to know if civil rights were violated with nothing to go on, he instructed holder to investigate and see.

trump thinks hillary violated the law, which comey said she did, but said no prosecutor(paraphrasing) would touch it, then you have just about every staffer involved given immunity and their computers destroyed after their interviews and don't ask for links it well documented, if you haven't bothered to keep up that's not my fault.

there is more than enough to go on.

a reply to: Phage

Honest question. You want Hillary as president? After everything Illegal she has done, and just says oops I didn't know. Bill raped someone and I threatened them, oops thought that was legal. Oooooops. Anyone actively defending her, not just you. Is there a legitimate reason? Or is it just because you like to be on the hated side, and love to argue with everyone.

Because I don't know a single person that can say one positive thing about this lady. If you have anything good she has done that equals out all the terrible, and haneous I'd love to be enlightened. Thank you

Clinton rape victim post debate getting YUGE media coverage on Clinton assaults

This is going to crush Clinton, mark my words.

a reply to: Grambler

But one, CNN is about as biased as Breitbart or Drudge. Should I post those polls? Secondly, I watched CNN discuss this poll. They started off saying how the sample audience "was skewed to have more democrats".

Come on now. Breitbart nor Drudge would have admitted a poll showing a lead for Trump was "skewed" would they?

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler

But one, CNN is about as biased as Breitbart or Drudge. Should I post those polls? Secondly, I watched CNN discuss this poll. They started off saying how the sample audience "was skewed to have more democrats".

Come on now. Breitbart nor Drudge would have admitted a poll showing a lead for Trump was "skewed" would they?

The spin answer:

They woudn't know the politiacl affiliation because that question is not asked in these online polls.

The honest answer:

Of course these polls are garbage. Even if they are not being influenced by bots, its obvious that there are not going to be many Trump haters on those websites.

My point was not trying to say I respect the Drudge or Breitbart poll, only to point out that this cnn poll was just as ridiculous.

a reply to: jhn7537

And Trump has settled lawsuit for groping and a lawsuit right now for allegedly raping a 13 year-old girl at three of Epstein's parties.

How many 13 year-old girls is Clinton alleged to have raped? I mean, if you want to do the whole tit-for-tat thing.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Here's VOX on the very same subject. If you read the headline, you end up reading their talking points for the next week.

Donald Trump’s threat to imprison Hillary Clinton is a threat to democracy

Couldn't he just drone her when she's out of the country, instead?