I am all out of this election now.

So I am a trump guy.(was a trump guy) I do look over some of his antics and what he does. I just chalk it up to don being don. I saw the video and audio of him degrading a woman. I can't stand anyone who belittles a woman to an object. I know the context of the audio was 2 guys joshing around but Just that he said it the way he said it and the fact it was about a married woman I can't accept.

I will not be voting for Clinton. I want trump to step aside and have Mike Pence step in. I really believe he has no chance now. Absolutely ZERO chance. The last thing I want is Clinton but with trump running I know she will win. Its almost as if he is doing this on purpose. I really wouldn't doubt it. He is pretty much the only opponent that she could beat. She isn't even beating him, he is beating himself.

Anyone change there mind recently and want to jump on the Pence wagon?

trump was a red herring, he probably sold that video recording to the Clinton campaign himself who else would've had it that long

a reply to: jlafleur02

I mean it almost makes the theory of Trump being a Clinton puppet from the start seem plausible

a reply to: jlafleur02

The last thing I want is Clinton but with trump running I know she will win. Its almost as if he is doing this on purpose. I really wouldn't doubt it. He is pretty much the only opponent that she could beat. She isn't even beating him, he is beating himself.

Almost like it was planned... enjoy the magic show everyone. Your'e being duped.

Is there precedence for a nominee to step down? This close to the election.

originally posted by: ssenerawa
Never Hillary never Trump. Voters have been bamboozled if that's even a word.

Hillary is by far the worst vote. If not voting trump then don't vote and save us from years of biased liberal judges that Hillary will stack the deck with.

What's even more deplorable is the Clinton campaign was probably just sitting on this tape. Does Trump even go to the debate?

She's the only Bilderberg left in the running.

We gave the Bilderbergs a bloody nose when we voted Brexit, they will not tolerate 2 defeats in the same year.

Will the U.S citizens wake up now? Or is it too late?

If he rides this one out, then you know it's a stitch up.

I know what you are all saying. Our political situation can't be so rigged that trump is a puppet? If so then we are all doomed to be controlled by the media and elites. I know us ATS'ers don't buy it but the vast majority will.

a reply to: American-philosopher

can explain how that's deplorable. LOL

i'd call it smart.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978


Will the U.S citizens wake up now? Or is it too late?

It's too late.

originally posted by: CharlesT

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978


Will the U.S citizens wake up now? Or is it too late?

It's too late. Our government has run it's course and it's end is near.

The end isn't near. The total control of everything is near. And very few will notice it. Most will praise it. Then 20 years down the road people will say " WTF happened"

a reply to: jlafleur02

You do realize this was a private conversation made eleven years ago? I'm not condoning what Trump said, but the same ones condemning him are the same that are for abortion, are for homosexuals in public pride parades displaying open perversion, including men committing sex acts with men for all to see. These are the same that glorify a whore like Kim Kardashian.

In a nation of over three-hundred-million citizens, it's always the few, often from the same family, which we see running for office. That alone should tell you something isn't right and that in all honesty, we really do not have a choice. There's also no left or right and Republican or Democrat no longer means anything.

I agree and just pulled that comment. Some kind of government will replace it.

I agree and just pulled that comment. Some kind of government will replace it.

Posting glitch.

I agree and just pulled that comment. Some kind of government will replace it.

a reply to: knoxie
But every presidential election year there is this talk of an October Surprise. I never fully understood the concept until now.

I mean no wonder why Hilary was never worried or concerned about Trump.

To me it's a little sinister to have information like that and wait and calculate when the right moment is to use it against someone.

How long do you think the Clinton campaign had the tape?

originally posted by: Veritas83
a reply to: jlafleur02

You do realize this was a private conversation made eleven years ago? I'm not condoning what Trump said, but the same ones condemning him are the same that are for abortion, are for homosexuals in public pride parades displaying open perversion, including men committing sex acts with men for all to see. These are the same that glorify a whore like Kim Kardashian.

In a nation of over three-hundred-million citizens, it's always the few, often from the same family, which we see running for office. That alone should tell you something isn't right and that in all honesty, we really do not have a choice. There's also no left or right and Republican or Democrat no longer means anything.

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you still for trump, clinton, or pence stepping up?

We can only hope that the voter turn out is so low that the two parties don't have a choice but to reinvent themselves.

a reply to: Veritas83

Yeah but you can't be caught saying what he said and running under the family values ticket.

I agree guys talk like that , but yeah it's basically over now with Ryan pulling away.