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Rape victim to Hillary: You lied about me.

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posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: soulwaxer
She was also a lawyer that took an oath to defend people to the best of her ability. She did.


Yeah, sure, she was expected to represent the guy. But she didn't just do that, she got a kick out of knowing she was successfully defending a man who brutally raped a 12 year old. That's not a lawyer, that's a pure psychopath.



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: soulwaxer
She was also a lawyer that took an oath to defend people to the best of her ability. She did.


Yeah, sure, she was expected to represent the guy. But she didn't just do that, she got a kick out of knowing she was successfully defending a man who brutally raped a 12 year old. That's not a lawyer, that's a pure psychopath.


Don't you love when someone (uninvited) enters another's mind and decides what they think?



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

And who was she informed of that by?

That's right, the child psychologist.



That affidavit doesn't show, as claimed, that Hillary Clinton asserted the defendant "made up the rape story because [she] enjoyed fantasizing about men"; rather, it shows that other people, including an expert in child psychology, had said that the complainant was "emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing about persons, claiming they had attacked her body," and that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences." Clinton therefore asked the court to have the complainant undergo a psychiatric exam (at the defense's expense) to determine the validity of that information:


Snopes

I don't give a tinker's dam about CNN and haven't brought that into this discussion.

But while we're doing mind-reading tricks ... you don't care about Kathy Shelton, you don't care about justice, you care about trying to use this case in any possible way to harm Clinton.

Actually, I don't have to be a mind-reader to know that ... it's pretty obvious here.
edit on 7-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: soulwaxer
She was also a lawyer that took an oath to defend people to the best of her ability. She did.


Yeah, sure, she was expected to represent the guy. But she didn't just do that, she got a kick out of knowing she was successfully defending a man who brutally raped a 12 year old. That's not a lawyer, that's a pure psychopath.


Don't you love when someone (uninvited) enters another's mind and decides what they think?


I didn't have to. She was laughing about it.



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: soulwaxer
She was also a lawyer that took an oath to defend people to the best of her ability. She did.


Yeah, sure, she was expected to represent the guy. But she didn't just do that, she got a kick out of knowing she was successfully defending a man who brutally raped a 12 year old. That's not a lawyer, that's a pure psychopath.


Don't you love when someone (uninvited) enters another's mind and decides what they think?


I didn't have to. She was laughing about it.


NO, she wasn't.

I listened to the entire audio.

It is exactly as Gryphon66 said.



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: soulwaxer
She was also a lawyer that took an oath to defend people to the best of her ability. She did.


Yeah, sure, she was expected to represent the guy. But she didn't just do that, she got a kick out of knowing she was successfully defending a man who brutally raped a 12 year old. That's not a lawyer, that's a pure psychopath.


Don't you love when someone (uninvited) enters another's mind and decides what they think?


I didn't have to. She was laughing about it.


NO, she wasn't.

I listened to the entire audio.

It is exactly as Gryphon66 said.


I wonder how many folks have even listened to the tape?

I'd wager, probably none.

They don't have to ... they've been told what to say about it.

I guess the bottom line here is that any rational person can look at this situation and see the truth ... and that truth is that there are those who are desperately trying to use Kathy's tragedy for their benefit ... or what they think is their benefit.



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:49 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

Clinton didn't commute the rapist's sentence.


No, that was Maupin Cummings and here's an interesting little factoid for you...

(Regarding Bill Clinton)

He caught the attention of Judge Maupin Cummings, who urged his son Gordon to back the first-time candidate. Just days after Clinton officially announced his bid in February 1974 at the Avenelle Motel in Hot Springs, surrounded by family and a few friends, Gordon Cummings wrote the Clinton for Congress Committee a check for $400.

The law student was among the first donors to Clinton’s campaign, the beginnings of what would eventually become a global fundraising network that would finance the Clintons’ careers for four decades.


Sour ce



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Clinton didn't commute the rapist's sentence.


No, that was Maupin Cummings and here's an interesting little factoid for you...

(Regarding Bill Clinton)

He caught the attention of Judge Maupin Cummings, who urged his son Gordon to back the first-time candidate. Just days after Clinton officially announced his bid in February 1974 at the Avenelle Motel in Hot Springs, surrounded by family and a few friends, Gordon Cummings wrote the Clinton for Congress Committee a check for $400.

The law student was among the first donors to Clinton’s campaign, the beginnings of what would eventually become a global fundraising network that would finance the Clintons’ careers for four decades.


Sour ce


Your point is what?



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Oh good, more dipstick Clinton conspiracy theories.

Perhaps you'll explain what that has to do with sentencing a man to 2 months incarceration for raping a child.

Are you suggesting that Bill Clinton made him do it?

edit on 7-10-2016 by Gryphon66 because: De snarked



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: Nucleardoom

Really? Ever read "To Kill A Mockingbird"?

Your faux outrage is showing.

Attorney Rodham was assigned the case under duress and she did what she was required to do by the tenants of her profession: her best effort.

The guy plead guilty after the girls mother insisted they go for a plea bargain.

What more should Rodham have done? Refuse the bargain on behalf of her client and demand a harder sentence for him? She would have been disbarred in a heart beat.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 04:41 AM
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a reply to: rnaa

The reason the mother wanted a plea bargain was that she didn't want her daughter to have to go through the humiliation of testifying on the stand. She was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

soulwaxer



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Not to take anything from the little girl but maybe she should have had a better lawyer.
Hillary had a job to do and did what was legally permissible.

I'm no hillary lover but a job is a job.


Taking a case like this should be an automatic disqualifier for politics, PERIOD.

Striving to win this case at all costs, and laughing, being overly joyful over it is just INCREDIBLE.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: rnaa

What more should Rodham have done? Refuse the bargain on behalf of her client and demand a harder sentence for him? She would have been disbarred in a heart beat.


Of course, Hillary should have just thrown away her career.

She's a woman.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ghostrager

When you and others say you don't care "what her job was" the blatant ignorance you're demonstrating of our legal system is frankly astounding.

Everyone, even those accused and convicted of the most horrendous crimes, gets a fair trial. You can beat your chest all you want (which would be more convincing if the interest in women's rights went beyond feebly trying to damn Clinton) and talk about how horrible it was that this little girl was raped ... and you'd be absolutely right!

Child abuse and crimes against women and girls are appalling, sadly, the right-wing in this country tends to favor the rapists rather than the victims.

You're so blinded by hatred for Clinton, you're advocating that the rule-of-law be scrapped.

Keep on with the limp appeals to emotion ... when I see you next week defending the rights of women and speaking out against child and sexual abuse, perhaps they'll be a bit more convincing, and not sound sooo much like you (and others here) are grossly using the story of a 12 year old girl to try to make political points.

If you want to talk about disgusting ... that's where I'd put my marker.


You are so full of it, if Trump had been a lawyer and done this you and the media would be screaming so loud the internet would break.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

You will defend Hillary to the death no matter how disgusting she is, just because she is a woman....how very liberal, millennial, leftist, and INSANE.

I think a real war is about to start, and it is one you do not even see coming.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
I'm sorry, I can't buy the "a job is a job" excuse and that she did her job.... I don't care what my job is, in no way, no how, would I ever defend and try to get off a man who brutally raped a 12 year old girl... I would quit my career and all the hard work I put into that career before ever defending scum like that POS... it takes a special kind of piece of sh*t to defend a child rapists.. Not everyone has it in them.. Not surprised Hillary had zero issues with it.


Everyone is innocent until proven guilty and has the right to a legal defense. It is part of the very basis the country was founded on. He may be the scum of the earth but he is still entitled to a lawyer one way or another.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Snopes doesn't have a great reputation lately...


FACTS do not have a good "reputation" lately according to Trump and his supporters.


Isn't it interesting.

It's only the Trump supporters claiming Snopes is inaccurate.


False.

We are not claiming, it has been proven on this site, years ago.

Before this election cycle, before "supporters.

It is not some unbiased fact checking site that has any sway whatsoever, never really did.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 12:20 PM
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let's see.... trumps lawyer claims that a wife can't be raped by their husband...
a court in italy finds a rapist not guilty because the victim had on a pair of tight jeans that the court things could be taken off of her without her assistance.
in countries all over the world, including the us, little girls younger than this girl are denied abortions when their rape results in a pregnancy, even if the child is carrying twins!
and women and girls, are still demonized in rape cases as having to have somehow invited the attack!!!

we are talking about the 1970's here, a clinton presented your typical rape defense for the time, just like many other attorneys have done before...

and well, just like some seem to want to do with trumps latest recorded flub when he practically admits to sexually assaulting the women he finds attractive.... he even admits he just can't help himself!!
he was in his 50's when he said those things....

she couldn't have been much more than fresh out of law school when that case came up, and she was doing her job!!!



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Are you trying to say something about abortion and rape ??

Your logic is very bizarre and is connected to things that should not be.......

Almost sounds like you would support rapists going free any day over the inability to abort.

And *gasp* being exposed to people who think abortion is not cool.



posted on Oct, 8 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: burntheships

And who was she informed of that by?

That's right, the child psychologist.


The psychologist offered a "general" insight, it was not/nor ever
about this particular 12 year old.


The Clinton affidavit stated that a "child psychology" expert advised her that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior." The language here would score a perfect 10 on the scale of political incorrectness in 2014. www.cnn.com...


So whose opinion was it then?

That's right, it was only Hillary Rodham's opinion that would apply to
this girl, she submitted her own personal sworn affidavit, damning.







 
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