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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
originally posted by: defiythelie
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Clinton is not a liberal, she is more in line with a moderate Republican. And Trump is not a centrist, he is in the athoritarian spectrum.
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
Major triggering. No I don't care about you and if you rot in the street I won't lose any sleep. If you care so much about eating I suggest you get a job like everyone else. I've got family and friends and you're neither.
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
Major triggering. No I don't care about you and if you rot in the street I won't lose any sleep. If you care so much about eating I suggest you get a job like everyone else. I've got family and friends and you're neither.
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
Major triggering. No I don't care about you and if you rot in the street I won't lose any sleep. If you care so much about eating I suggest you get a job like everyone else. I've got family and friends and you're neither.
I have a job, I am a veteran, if there is anyone triggering here it is you. I have spent many years looking after my family. You need to get off your high horse, cause it is it nothing but a pogo stick here, doucheweasel.
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
Major triggering. No I don't care about you and if you rot in the street I won't lose any sleep. If you care so much about eating I suggest you get a job like everyone else. I've got family and friends and you're neither.
I have a job, I am a veteran, if there is anyone triggering here it is you. I have spent many years looking after my family. You need to get off your high horse, cause it is it nothing but a pogo stick here, doucheweasel.
Then you can afford to pay for your bottom dwelling friends abortions and college.
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: MagicJay
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: BubbaJoe
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Who is the Centrist?
And who is the Liberal?
Because Trump isn't very central and Hillary isn't a liberal.
How is Hillary not a liberal? Which of these does she not support:
Economic policy:
Expand social security and safety net programs.
Increase top capital gains tax and dividend tax rates
Across the board tax-cuts for the low and middle class and small businesses.
Change tax rules to not encourage shipping jobs overseas.
Increase federal minimum wage.
Modernize and expand access to public education, and provide universal preschool education.
Support for universal health care.
Greater investment in infrastructure development.
Increase investments in scientific and technological research and development.
Expand the use of renewable energy and diminish the use of fossil fuels.
Implement a carbon tax.
Support for cuts in defense spending.
Uphold labor protections and the right to unionize.
Reform the student loan system and allow for refinancing student loans.
Mandate equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, or ethnicity.
Social policy:
Uphold network neutrality.
Implement campaign finance reform and electoral reform.
Uphold voting rights and easy access to voting.
Supports federal same-sex marriage rulings against sovereign state laws
Allow legal access to abortions and women's reproductive health care.
Reform the immigration system and allow for a pathway to citizenship.
Support for gun background checks and stricter gun control regulations.
Recognize and defend Internet freedom worldwide.
If you are against all of those things, and I could go by each and everyone of them, how do you describe yourself? American is not at the top of my list.
I describe myself as an conservative US citizen who knows that the majority of those issues are not the federal government's responsibility.
Obviously they are not popular because Clinton is not 30 points ahead in the polls.
You are correct in that there is no way to responsibly pay for them.
So you are against the poor and the elderly.
You are against taxing the rich.
Against tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses.
You want to ship more jobs overseas.
7.35 an hour is enough for you to live one.
Public education is not good enough for you and yours, and you want to deny early childhood education that are below your social status.
Universal Health care, we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it.
Our infrastructure is so screwed, and no plan to fix it.
Science plays no part in your life, the big guy upstairs did it all 6000 years ago.
Lets use more fossil fuels, everyone buy an SUV, science and technology do not rank high with you.
After working on both sides of DOD procurement, there is so much fraud, waste and abuse.
Greedy capitalists taking advantage of the worker, I see you are all for that.
Student loans, I don't have much to say, a lot of FOR PROFIT colleges have taken advantage, some of those may need to be looked at.
Apparently you are against equality, I don't even know what to say.
Now lets talk social issues.
You think that the government should have control of what we see on the internet?
Corporations are people too, you do know that didn't work well for Romney?
You are all for not allowing people to vote, check that one off.
You don't like gay folks.
You want to have control over women's bodies, check that one off too.
Undocumented workers should have no path to legal citizenship.
No background checks, everyone should carry a gun.
You already f'd that one up with your first statement in this section.
You are an evangelical, I am an agnostic, we will never see eye to eye, but for me, you laid out a perfect party platform for someone to take over the world. Hillary is not that person, and Donald will not receive my vote. You are the perfect reason why no one takes conservatives seriously.
Major triggering. No I don't care about you and if you rot in the street I won't lose any sleep. If you care so much about eating I suggest you get a job like everyone else. I've got family and friends and you're neither.
I have a job, I am a veteran, if there is anyone triggering here it is you. I have spent many years looking after my family. You need to get off your high horse, cause it is it nothing but a pogo stick here, doucheweasel.
Then you can afford to pay for your bottom dwelling friends abortions and college.
You are apparently too stupid to understand debate, some one on the oppisite side posted a whole bunch of points, I answered them, you took offense, imagine that, am assuming you are a Trump supporter. Maybe you should try reading an entire thread before you open your mouth and show that you are an idiot.