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originally posted by: goou111
a reply to: Joneselius
If you want to be frank the real threat to world peace is Islam. Well religion in general. But mostly Islam.
Scratch that its Islam.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
When any government resorts to torturing its enemy to get information, it means thugs are running things.It also means that such information gathered is what the thug wants to hear, which is what all the subsequent future actions will be based on.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Preach on!
a reply to: Majic
This is one reason people have to tell the complete histories instead of the watered down BS versions of events. Before the Civil Rights Movement, people in America used to send lynching post cards. They were postcards with the images of a specific lynching on them. And people can just do a google image search for that phrase or "America lynching" and they'll see that entire towns would get together to watch the lynchings. Some pictures even show the kids/teenagers posing with the charred and hung body. America has come a loooong way in terms of becoming more moral.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Willtell
That's the point I'm also making. The evil hasn't increased, it's simply being redirected. And if we look at raw numbers and percentages of populations, things are actually better now than before.
For example, estimates say 8 million people died in the Cerro Rico mines in Bolivia during the Spanish Colonial Era (HERE), nearly all being Native and African slaves. But no one even talks about that, the millions killed during the Belgian reign in the Congo, the hundreds of thousands of Roma/Romani killed in the Porajmos Holocaust, or the numerous Japanese massacres in their colonies before & during WW2. I'm only mentioning these to point out that mass genocides have been happening this entire time with no world power stepping in to help.
Just check out this rough list of the death tolls of the deadliest wars in recorded history. Then I think you'll understand my position a little clearer when I say that times are actually getting a lot better. And this is just our deadliest "wars".
List of wars by death toll
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
I agree. I literally thank God that I was born in this time period. The leaps in technology, human rights, and access to information is literally on a level this country's never had before. My ridiculously optimistic goal is that we will "arrive" 50 to 80 years from now. But that will require people accepting things like pacifism, ending world hunger, universal human rights, the end of patents on medical cures and technologies, etc.
But as long as greed and violence are socially acceptable, that path will be impossible. And in that case, we'll go down in history as just another empire like the Romans or Mongols.
ROUGHLY HALF OF the money raised to oppose a ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana in California is coming from police and prison guard groups, terrified that they might lose the revenue streams to which they have become so deeply addicted.
originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: CJCrawley
Not voting doesn't do a thing. Already looked into it. www.zerohedge.com...
We would have to rally at the voting place and it would not be peaceful.. it would turn ugly in my opinion.
originally posted by: CJCrawley
originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: CJCrawley
Not voting doesn't do a thing. Already looked into it. www.zerohedge.com...
We would have to rally at the voting place and it would not be peaceful.. it would turn ugly in my opinion.
All right, carry on voting for the likes of Trump and Clinton then, how's that working out for the world? You don't have too many options, do you?
The fact is that the establishment would sit up and take notice if a significant chunk of the electorate didn't turn out to vote.
originally posted by: MamaJ
a reply to: AceWombat04
Can we agree on the list below?
Voting is useless
Our government is too big and corrupt
We are in the Middle East for resources
We are policing our corporation and outside entities for money/resources
Our prisons and schools are a business
Our healthcare is a mess
Our debt will keep coming as long as we keep printing ( the FED has to go bye, bye)
If we agree on the above list what do we do about it?
The only legal and peaceful action we can take to change the system is to take our self out of the system. Many ways to do this without even walking outside our door. A "strike" so to speak. How long would we as a collective have to stay home before it was felt in the Government?
I urge you wall to think about a peaceful and legal solution. We can't keep beating a dead horse.