POLITICO Fact-Checker -- HILLARY CLINTON Lies Frequently About Her Health and Transgressions.

September 25, 2016

POLITICO Magazine took every statement made by Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton over the past week, and analyzed them for accuracy and truthfulness. Here's a summary:

"Hillary Clinton’s relationship to the truth is solid — but her most brazen misrepresentations come when she’s talking about herself.

In the lead-up to the first presidential debate of the general election, POLITICO subjected every statement made by both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump — in speeches, in interviews and on Twitter — to our magazine’s rigorous fact-checking process. The conclusion: Though Clinton is far more practiced at sticking to defensible policy positions and recollections of history, she’s significantly more lax when addressing her own transgressions — the potential Achilles’ heel of a candidacy marred by questions of her truthfulness."

Complete Analysis Here: www.politico.com...

It's obvious that if Hillary was President, she'd have one of the least transparent administrations in the history of this country. She's avoided telling the truth for so many decades, there's no way she's going to be forthcoming about much of anything at all. Just carefully worded, sterile (boring), statements like she's always given. And many of those will later be proven to be intentional, blatant LIES... just like we're seeing now, regarding many of Hillary Clinton's past declarations, stories, statements, etc..

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It's obvious that if Hillary was President, she'd have one of the least transparent administrations in the history of this country. She's avoided telling the truth for so many decades, there's no way she's going to be forthcoming about much of anything at all. Just carefully worded, sterile (boring), statements like she's always given. And many of those will later be proven to be intentional, blatant LIES... just like we're seeing now, regarding many of Hillary Clinton's past declarations, stories, statements, etc..

The same Politico fact checkers found what in the companion piece about Trump?

The conclusion is inescapable: Trump’s mishandling of facts and propensity for exaggeration so greatly exceed Clinton’s as to make the comparison almost ludicrous.

According to POLITICO’s five-day analysis, Trump averaged about one falsehood every three minutes and 15 seconds over nearly five hours of remarks. In raw numbers, that’s 87 erroneous statements in five days.

Though Clinton spoke for less than half as long as Trump, extrapolating the frequency of her misstatements suggests that even if she, too, spoke for as many hours as Trump, he'd still surpass her nearly four times over.

What conclusion do you draw from the same fact checkers' assessments of Trump?

a reply to: theantediluvian


My conclusion is that Donald Trump is a less polished liar.

a reply to: theantediluvian
My conclusion is that people who want honest people in places of power should vote for Gary Johnson. The other two are simply different sides of the same coin---a counterfeit coin at that.
Johnson has proven experience as an executive and proved that government budgets can be cut and government downsized without tragic results. He's also not a war monger like the other two. He's the best chance we have for a real change in government at the federal level, a unifying force rather than the divisiveness of the other two.

If all I have read about these 2 over the last months is correct, then why on earth are they still allowed to run? Where is the scandal? The resignations? I don't understand how these people can still be running for President at all....over here they'd have been run out of Parliament by now!

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Money - Influence - Debt

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: theantediluvian


My conclusion is that Donald Trump is a less polished liar.

I don't know that he's less polished — he's just got a different technique. Clinton approaches her lying like a lawyer and she's all about mincing words. Trump is more brazen. He just lies and then if he's called out on it, he piles on more lies and then accuses the people who call him out of being losers, incompetent, liars, unfair, part of the establishment's plot against him, etc.

Do you know who Roy Cohn is? Roy Cohn became Trump's lawyer in 1973. He was one of the most loathed and feared members of his profession at the time. He was far more than his lawyer though. He was his friend, confidant, mentor and the man who helped Trump make all the right (wrong?) connections for 13 years until his death.

Consider what Roy Cohn said just weeks before his death from AIDS in 1986, afer being disbarred.

NY Time - Roy Cohn, Aide to McCarthy and Fiery Lawyer, Dies at 59 (August 3, 1986)

On June 23, near death with what he said was liver cancer, Mr. Cohn was disbarred from the practice of law in New York State. In a unanimous decision, a five-judge panel of the Appellate Division of State Supreme Court said his conduct in four legal matters was "unethical," "unprofessional" and, in one case, "particularly reprehensible."

Allegations Called Smears

Mr. Cohn denied that there was any substance to the allegations and contended that his disbarment was the result of a smear campaign engineered by his enemies - "a bunch of yo-yos" - because "the establishment bar hates my guts."

You might want to read up a little on the man and his relationship with Trump. It's interesting. It may not persuade you that Trump is worse than Clinton but it will give you some insight into Trump.

a reply to: diggindirt

Gary Johnson seems like a honest man. He seems like a likable guy. The LP platform is complete garbage though. Bernie Sanders should have been the Democrat's candidate. That didn't happen. Instead one of these two lying, sleazy, powermad cronies is going to be the President of the United States in less than four months.

a reply to: carewemust

My conclusion is that Donald Trump is a less polished liar.

Either way, polished or not polished they're both liars.

Clinton doesn't say anything. She hasn't even given an open press conference yet.

She sticks to a small set of rehearsed rhetoric and repeats it.

Trump on the other hand is a loudmouth.

He's the world's worst stand-up comic.

Let's hold off on the he-said/she-said until after the debates.

Why do Hillary amd her worshippers hate fact checking?

a reply to: theantediluvian


I've changed a lot (for the better) since 1986. How about you, TheAntEdiluvian? (Assuming you were an adult then.) It's conceivable that Donald Trump has become wiser as well.

Those of us who are voting for Trump realize that both the Downside and Upside potential are greater with him. In life, I'm a risk-taker when the current status-quo is not acceptable...or just plain "old".

I feel that America has stagnated, and see nothing bold, or grand, in any of Hillary's plans for this country. Besides...the old girl lies so much that I'm not sure I'd believe her if she did unveil bold and grand plans for America. But, she hasn't, so Trump is an easy choice.

a reply to: abe froman

Let's hold off on the he-said/she-said until after the debates.

Do you really think the debates will change that?

a reply to: carewemust

Hillary is a career politician...a politicians job is to lie convincingly....she lies about everything....are you only figuring this out now ?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
And a career hustler? A career self promoter? What's their job entail?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: carewemust

Hillary is a career politician...a politicians job is to lie convincingly....she lies about everything....are you only figuring this out now ?

Mr/Ms HopeNotFear...I rarely start a thread to tell ATS members that I have suddenly learned something.

You'd be amazed at the number of people who visit ATS that think ONLY TRUMP lies. A lot of his lies stem from ignorance of a subject.

Hillary's lies are willful and deliberate. Plus, she knows that most of her passive and active supporters BELIEVE what she says. That's brings us back to the reason I started this thread. To inform THOSE Hillary supporters that she is a proven, frequent, deliberate, L-I-A-R.

BTW.. CNN will have an interesting post-debate audience tomorrow, consisting of "undecided" likely voters. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to say.

a reply to: carewemust

Hillary's lies are willful and deliberate.

Trump's are accidental?
You find that comforting? That he doesn't know what he's talking about so he makes stuff up on the spot?

a reply to: carewemust

I got the impression you just were outing hillary.....lets face it trump is just as bad...they all lie for self promotion and they care very little how it affects the average citizen....

In saying that i agree with you Hillary is all those things ... she is in no way worse than any other candidate ...they are all bottom feeders

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
And a career hustler? A career self promoter? What's their job entail?

hustling and self promotion with a whole lot of corporate sponsorship ....

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Hillary's lies are willful and deliberate.

Trump's are accidental?
You find that comforting? That he doesn't know what he's talking about so he makes stuff up on the spot?

YES.. he's emulating the winner of our 2008 Presidential election. Obama had only been in politics for a few years. He didn't know much, and had an answer for everything. But Obama learned. Trump will learn, and his approval ratings will improve over time, just as President Obama's approval ratings have improved. I heard that he's up to 53% now.

Hillary's entire approach and persona is like an old, stagnant, crap-laden cesspool. She's yesterday's news. This will be obvious to hundreds of millions of people during tomorrow nights' debate.