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originally posted by: Landmesser
Says the man who thinks like this link
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Well, as I've stated before, I'm sorry you feel that way. My tone is more intended to be "Hey, we're trying stop trying to rush us or dismantle any claims we make on the difficulties we face."
Something to consider: everyone faces challenges every day. And to that individual, their challenge is no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin.
That said, who is this "us"? Are they laying underneath a broad brush now?
I understand this, as I was once somewhat "Anti-Feminist" and to women worldwide I tell them sorry. 'Us' refers to the black race, we're subject to many stereotypes and we are a minority. We all face challenges that's true, however, stereotypes do influence these challenges, it may not make them more difficult but it definitely does add to the stack that a person already faces. So I must refute your statement "no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin"
originally posted by: Rubicon3
a reply to: SuspiciousTom
Two things: 1) The condemnation, at least in part, is akin to how people view middle easterners...the bad ones garner all the negative feelings, which is then used as a ruler to measure ALL middle easterners by.
2) You, you, you, you this, you that! WE did.not trot our butts to Africa to buy slaves from the AFRICAN tribes rounding their OWN people up to SELL. They were a commodity marketable to new settlers who needed help. Not ALL slaves were black either. Consider the indentured hauled over from England as one example. Africans had been exploited LONG before Colonial days. Look at Egyptian history and the art work on walls depicting their slave population. Hey, let's go after the Egyptians!
The Portuguese were the leaders in the slave trade, followed by the British, French, Spanish and Dutch. If you want to look even further back in history, check out the Arabic HUGE hand in black slave trade.
Yes, slavery was and is wrong, especially since it's still being perpetrated today...hint hint...Middle Easterners. So, why continue to condemn and vilify today's American society for something that went on long, long ago? For being ignorant enough to take advantage of a seemingly easy way to fill a need way back when? Why? Because bestowing a guilt trip is seen as easy to "justify", and an ongoing punishment for old wrongs? Oh, and gee...there MIGHT be money in it?! Why not just grow up and drop it? It sure isn't getting anyone anywhere...except on a tried and true path of destruction for everyone. It's OVER, it's DONE. Do something smart, CONSTRUCTIVE and go after the slavers out there T O D A Y!
originally posted by: thesaneone
originally posted by: Landmesser
a reply to: Arenttarded
I know plenty of decent hard working law abiding blacks.
You don't.
Rap video thugs ironically enough, act just like the retards in Africa, no law no rules, if I can kill you I can take your stuff, reminds me of the difference between man and animals.
More stormfront for ATS. "Blacks" are "animals" and "retards" and mods agree with this.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
I have hopes for my race.
That is anything but apparent from the condescending way you talk down about them in the OP, friend. Your tone reads a lot more like a statement of "we can't" than "we can."
Says the man who thinks like this link
Are you saying you don't believe him or that you don't believe that there are law abiding blacks that ar hard working?
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Well, as I've stated before, I'm sorry you feel that way. My tone is more intended to be "Hey, we're trying stop trying to rush us or dismantle any claims we make on the difficulties we face."
Something to consider: everyone faces challenges every day. And to that individual, their challenge is no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin.
That said, who is this "us"? Are they laying underneath a broad brush now?
I understand this, as I was once somewhat "Anti-Feminist" and to women worldwide I tell them sorry. 'Us' refers to the black race, we're subject to many stereotypes and we are a minority. We all face challenges that's true, however, stereotypes do influence these challenges, it may not make them more difficult but it definitely does add to the stack that a person already faces. So I must refute your statement "no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin"
Feel free to refute away....but first you need to quote the entire sentence: And to that individual, their challenge is no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin.
TO put it differently: you are at the emergency room writhing in pain. Someone else sitting near you is also writhing in pain. You would both be fools to tell the other than your pain was worse. Mostly because they are not experiencing your pain. In nursing, the mantra is "pain is what the patient says it is". Refuting this will only belittle your own argument..
I have 2 black nieces. One moved to Charlotte about 3 months ago, and has wholly bought into the "i am oppressed" meme. The other lives here, and thinks her sister is an idiot. It could have something to do with the interpersonal contacts influencing either or both. Who knows. But Mrs. Oppressed just had us wire her $200 for car repairs to a car we bought her ("we" being my mother and I, along with my sister who is my neices mother) so she could move to NC to go to school.
I think if you really want to get some agreement from folks, and get traction with your viewpoint, you should completely lose the race piece, and focus on socioeconomics. A great article to help understand that poverty is poverty, regardless of skin color:
www.theguardian.com...
Self pity is purely self defeating.
And to that individual, their challenge is no less difficult than someone else who happens to have a different colored skin.
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
trying to justify the length of how long you mistreated someone? Sounds like a drowning man holding on to a thread. What happened POST slavery?
How did black people get to America?