Reddit post apparently related to Clintons email coverup

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I recall this potion:

"Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said.

And I remember thinking of your post pointing out the fact that by this time, Hillary's email address was already known so that excuse would not hold up to scrutiny. We will have to wait until an official transcript of the hearing is posted in order to get a better idea of the context.

My point is isn't just putting this placeholder in considered tampering with evidence? If congress asked me for records, I don't get to go in and decide to replace my email address or other such things for my convenience, even if I have no nefarious reason to do that.

Congress wanted the records totally as is. Seeing Hillary's email exactly as it was on these documents could have been important to their inquiry. For example, if they thought that these documents could have been hacked, they would want to know exactly what addresses the hackers got.

And again, keep in mind Comey fully admitted he thinks the they in the reddit post to Combetta is Mills. So why would Mills be telling Combetta the day after these records were requested by congress to put in a place holder for her email. Was she worried congress would see Clintons actual email. Why would this be the case?

This proves Mills wanted more than just a placeholder put in, she wanted Hillary off of the list altogether. When they couldn't accomplish this, they used bleach bit to delete them all.

So Comeys excuse makes no sense. They knew Mills asked Combetta to break the law, and they didn't pursue it.

A thousand times this.

Combetta's intent was to modify records under congressional subpoena, which is highly illegal; and it doesn't matter why. Or it would be for you and me.

Besides, as MME pointed out, by this time Hillary's email addresses were already in the public domain. Theonly thing that wasn't was the fact that Obama had a pseudonym he used when communicating with Hillary on her un-approved, un-secured, internet-connected, undisclosed email server.

Obama is as culpable as is anyone in this mess and that's a can of worms the FBI nor the DoJ want to even get near, much less open.

Don't get me wrong, I think Gowdy and others are doing a good thing getting to the bottom of this.

But am I the only one that think us on ATS and the people on reddit are coming up with better questions?

When they asked comey about reddit and he admitted the "they" was Cheryl Mills, but said she only wante him to put in a place holder, why didn't someone ask Comey why that mattered.

It is still illegal they should have told Comey. They say they gave Combetta immunity to get to bigger fish, and they knew about this reddit thread, so why in gods name couldn't they get Mills? They knew she asked Combetta to break the law!

And if Combetta didn't tell them about Mills asking him to do this, or the reddit thread, and they had access to the reddit thread as Comey claimed, then how does this not violate Combettas immunity?

I am so frustrated by this. I feel like Comey is just sliming away without having to answer these really difficult questions.

I haven't looked at the three parts of FBI files that have been released. Anyone else know if the Reddit story & alleged investigation is included in any of it or if it should be present but is noticeably absent in the records?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Yeah, all I've seen are excerpts. I suppose I need to sit down and comb through them thoroughly and see if the reddit posts are referenced. It would seem to me that they should have been at least mentioned even if obliquely.



a reply to: Grambler

They say they gave Combetta immunity to get to bigger fish, and they knew about this reddit thread, so why in gods name couldn't they get Mills?

Not sure if you've seen it or not, but I posted a thread a few days ago that goes in to depth on Cheryl Mills, in that thread there might be some indication why she was allowed to slip through and sit in on Hillary's 'voluntary' interview even though she herself was a witness in the case about which Hillary was being interviewed; which, according to many congresspersons, is highly irregular and unprecedented.

Cheryl Mills, BlackIvy, & BlackStone (should be BlackRock, but I goofed)

2:50:00 in to the hearing...



Good God. Just listen to Comey...he has NO CONCLUSIONS after stating at the beginning of the hearing that he *thinks* his team concluded *yada yada*. He is unsure about what the records were, why they were instructed to be tampered with...

Yes, Grambler...I worry Comey is not being effectively questioned on purpose.

Catherine Herridge on FOX News talking about Comey addressing Combetta/Reddit.

Also, it turns out it wasn't the FBI that gave Mills immunity, it was the DOJ, Lynchs agency.

The same Lynch that ended up saying she would basically have to recuse itself and met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac.

She was to close to the case to make her own decision she said so she would take Comeys suggestion. Yet she was giving everyone they could have gone after immunity! This story keeps getting better!

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Ok. Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Anything?

As Comey would say...So & So's story is credible absent any evidence to prove the contrary.

Comey didn't even have a story or facts. All he committed to was what "he thought" and what he was "not sure" about. So is there any evidence...because Comey's attempt at feigning a story is not credible.

I've listened to a good portion of the hearing again, and Comey was careful not to state anything pertaining to the FBI's alleged investigation into the Reddit story as fact. Red. Flag.

No one in the committee pinned him down, either, forcing him to state with certainty anything about the FBI's conclusions & investigation into the Reddit story.

It's all a red flag.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Ok. Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Anything?

As Comey would say...So & So's story is credible absent any evidence to prove the contrary.

Comey didn't even have a story or facts. All he committed to was what "he thought" and what he was "not sure" about. So is there any evidence...because Comey's attempt at feigning a story is not credible.

I've listened to a good portion of the hearing again, and Comey was careful not to state anything pertaining to the FBI's alleged investigation into the Reddit story as fact. Red. Flag.

No one in the committee pinned him down, either, forcing him to state with certainty anything about the FBI's conclusions & investigation into the Reddit story.

It's all a red flag.

You are right this is a good point. If this was known in the FBI, then the documents they release will show it. Even if they don't show reddit in particular, they will have to mention that Combetta mentioned mills told him to put in a place holder for the email.

We have not seen this yet, but I do not know if congress has seen this.

If the FBI has no mention of either of these things, they are lying, and they didn't know of the reddit post until Kattica. This could be because they are embarrassed that they were outdone by a civilian, or because they are trying to cover up for Hillary and her people.

Maybe I am too naive but I don't think that members of Oversight Committee hadn't pinned Comey down on purpose, I think you are giving thgem too much credit. I just think they were not up to the challenge. Comey simple outplayed them. I really think that they are not smart enough to come to all these conclusions that you guys are coming to. If they could just somehow read some of your posts...although I know there's very little chance for that...

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Ok. Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Anything?

As Comey would say...So & So's story is credible absent any evidence to prove the contrary.

Comey didn't even have a story or facts. All he committed to was what "he thought" and what he was "not sure" about. So is there any evidence...because Comey's attempt at feigning a story is not credible.

I've listened to a good portion of the hearing again, and Comey was careful not to state anything pertaining to the FBI's alleged investigation into the Reddit story as fact. Red. Flag.

No one in the committee pinned him down, either, forcing him to state with certainty anything about the FBI's conclusions & investigation into the Reddit story.

It's all a red flag.

If the FBI knew about Combetta's Reddit posts before...WHY didn't they subpoena/request all files from Reddit at the time?

My guess is that they never were told by Combetta that he used the handle StoneTear...Possibly because they never asked.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Ok. Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Anything?

As Comey would say...So & So's story is credible absent any evidence to prove the contrary.

Comey didn't even have a story or facts. All he committed to was what "he thought" and what he was "not sure" about. So is there any evidence...because Comey's attempt at feigning a story is not credible.

I've listened to a good portion of the hearing again, and Comey was careful not to state anything pertaining to the FBI's alleged investigation into the Reddit story as fact. Red. Flag.

No one in the committee pinned him down, either, forcing him to state with certainty anything about the FBI's conclusions & investigation into the Reddit story.

It's all a red flag.

If the FBI knew about Combetta's Reddit posts before...WHY didn't they subpoena/request all files from Reddit at the time?

That is a great point I hadn't thought of! Do we know that they didn't?

Also, was it the FBI or the oversight committee that requested the reddit files this week?

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Ok. Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Anything?

As Comey would say...So & So's story is credible absent any evidence to prove the contrary.

Comey didn't even have a story or facts. All he committed to was what "he thought" and what he was "not sure" about. So is there any evidence...because Comey's attempt at feigning a story is not credible.

I've listened to a good portion of the hearing again, and Comey was careful not to state anything pertaining to the FBI's alleged investigation into the Reddit story as fact. Red. Flag.

No one in the committee pinned him down, either, forcing him to state with certainty anything about the FBI's conclusions & investigation into the Reddit story.

It's all a red flag.

If the FBI knew about Combetta's Reddit posts before...WHY didn't they subpoena/request all files from Reddit at the time?

That is a great point I hadn't thought of! Do we know that they didn't?

Also, was it the FBI or the oversight committee that requested the reddit files this week?

I think it was the oversight committee.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Is there any evidence, at all, that the FBI knew about the Stonetear posts before Katica discovered them?

Here are the files on the fbi site.

PART ONE:
PART TWO:
PART THREE:

Guess it's time to buckle down and see what's all in there.

originally posted by: alomaha
Maybe I am too naive but I don't think that members of Oversight Committee hadn't pinned Comey down on purpose, I think you are giving thgem too much credit. I just think they were not up to the challenge. Comey simple outplayed them. I really think that they are not smart enough to come to all these conclusions that you guys are coming to. If they could just somehow read some of your posts...although I know there's very little chance for that...

Ha, well I'm admittedly cynical, like Comey.

Everyone but my spouse is a liar.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks for the links...I'm going to scan to OCR to see if that helps me locate anything....

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: alomaha
Maybe I am too naive but I don't think that members of Oversight Committee hadn't pinned Comey down on purpose, I think you are giving thgem too much credit. I just think they were not up to the challenge. Comey simple outplayed them. I really think that they are not smart enough to come to all these conclusions that you guys are coming to. If they could just somehow read some of your posts...although I know there's very little chance for that...

Ha, well I'm admittedly cynical, like Comey.

Everyone but my spouse is a liar.

HEY! Who are you calling a liar?

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: alomaha
Maybe I am too naive but I don't think that members of Oversight Committee hadn't pinned Comey down on purpose, I think you are giving thgem too much credit. I just think they were not up to the challenge. Comey simple outplayed them. I really think that they are not smart enough to come to all these conclusions that you guys are coming to. If they could just somehow read some of your posts...although I know there's very little chance for that...

Ha, well I'm admittedly cynical, like Comey.

Everyone but my spouse is a liar.

HEY! Who are you calling a liar?

For the right price, I'll do my best to tell the world you are the baby Jesus.

Seriously though, I think Comey's line that he "doesn't believe anyone except his wife," is the only truth he told.

He knows that no one can be believed...especially when answering questions from the FBI.

Yet, he expects the public to believe Clinton, Mills, Combetta, etc...based purely on the fact that the FBI did not collect evidence to prove any lies.

And he avoided going on record with facts about any FBI investigation into that Reddit post. Except he admitted 'Stonetear's' Reddit post was "associated with" Combetta. Other than that, he qualified all his claims with "I think...." or "I'm not sure, but...."

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I am just now getting started looking for any evidence the FBI knew about and investigated the Reddit posts.

I could not complete an OCR scan on the third part, so far. I got an error and Acrobat crashed.

In Part 1, I would expect some evidence of the Reddit post to appear page 16.

...hoping someone else looks at that page and thinks the story should have been included there, too. IF they knew about it.


Which I don't think they did.