‘US is defending ISIS’: Russia convenes UNSC meeting after US coalition strike on Syrian army

a reply to: MysticPearl

It's insane how dangerous to the world this Obama administration is. Civilian life means nothing to them.

Really because in case you may have forgotten the US has had aircraft return to their bases still loaded with bombs they didn't drop because of civilians...

Strikes against the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) targets are often blocked due to an Obama administration policy to prevent civilian deaths and collateral damage, according to Rep. Ed Royce (R., Calif.), chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

freebeacon.com...

Unlike Russia who has no problem killing civilians...

Any strategic benefits of Russia’s intervention have come at a bloody cost to civilians, with all local casualty recorders in agreement that 2,000 or more non-combatants have died,” said Chris Woods, director of monitoring organisation Airwars which collects and evaluates casualty reports.

www.theguardian.com...

I guess you missed that also.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I know it's amazing that many just disregard that just so they can bash the US for doing something they were allowed to do.

a reply to: Vector99

And Russia is guilty of the same exact thing.

But that's okay because they have permission...oh wait so does the US.

But yes you would be correct in that they do the same and maybe even worse with their use of dumb bombs.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Hold on... that is not the whole truth though.
First off, let me post the Video (of Walid al-Moallem's statement to AP) for everyone:

Now some context.
According to the German (mandated) Luftwaffe's (strictly reconnaissance!) mission statement regarding Syrian approval, there are clear outlines for airstrikes within Syrian national territory:
Previous notification/agreement&permission.

Now the fact in the field is that Syria's GBAD were set passive and thus tollerated the U.S.(coal.) warplanes up until now.
Fact is also that the U.S. still ignores Syria's outlines for airstrikes on their territory. Even your Pentagon press secretary - John Kirby said so.

Bottom line: there is no officially rendered blanko-premission for the U.S. to strike on Syrian national territory at will, but the Syrians tollerate U.S.(coal.) strikes aslong as they target Daesh.

On topic:
Had the U.S. followed the Syrian outlines - this recent "mistake" would not have happened.

a reply to: ColCurious

Wow you posted a video of him agreeing to letting them bomb ISIS...so they do have the right to bomb them in Syria.

Again they aren't targeting Syrian Armed forces as agreed upon, and the fact this was an accident that happened after years of airstrikes shows they are following the guidelines set out by Syria for the US to use airstrikes against ISIS.

If the US wasn't following the rules set by Syria you would have more than just this unfortunate incident happening long before now.

a reply to: Vector99
Soldiers in the field no it wasnt their fault ,they are just following orders given by their superiors whom are definitely at fault and do know what they are doing as these individuals have at their dispossal the very latest in equipment and training. This bit of information also fits with a pattern of information that all points out the fact we are being LIED to big time. Some questions that need to be asked are How does an enemy group get the latest in western technology and all those western vehiles and the training to use such complex equipment from countries that they are suppose to be at war with, how come in years of fighting with all the technology at our dispossal can we not have destroyed isis yet the russians can inflict major damage in just a few weeks, how come when isis were just about beat thanks to the russians the west steps back in and isis starts to take back territory, how come in the wests attempts to defame the syrian government little concrete solid evidence ever seems to come to light ,how come when the syrian government is blamed it makes front page news and the admittance that it may have in fact been the rebels that used these weapons Eg(chemical weapons) does it only make the middle of the paper etc

originally posted by: DrakeINFERNO
a reply to: Vector99

russia never pretends to be a do gooder hypocrite

Except when crimea is involved.

originally posted by: residentofearth

originally posted by: Kazber
US said that this was an attack that was planned for days. And that the US believe it was an ISIS strong hold

Its funny they are able to read my book from the space, but they've been mistaken about terrorist stronghold, about where to drop the bomb, accidentally kill 62 ?! US violates Syria's sovereignty for years, how stupid these soldiers are?

The Syrian army and Isis have the same materials. Isis for most of its arms and equipment from captured Syrian basses. They have the same vehicles the same clothing and thr same artillary. The only one that doesn't is the Kurdish they are using alot of US supplies. Or to put it another way they all look alike. Oh and one more thing there is no satellite that can read a book from space impossible do to atmospheric distortion you have watched to many movies. This is why droans are used If satellites have the view you think they do wouldn't need survalance droans at all.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Vector99

And Russia is guilty of the same exact thing.

But that's okay because they have permission...oh wait so does the US.

But yes you would be correct in that they do the same and maybe even worse with their use of dumb bombs.

Actually, Russia has permission.

The US strikes? Syria is "OK" with them. That in no way shape or form means the US was given permission to perform them.

That's the thing regarding Syria, no one can ever reference the Syrian government giving the US permission.

why has Manhatten Island/NYC been the sudden victim of multiple bombings...

because Russia stood up, called a security-council meeting about the western Coalition targeting the Syrian military in a thinly veiled 'mistake' (they thought the troops were ISIS-ISIL/IS terror Jihadists... yeah sure)

Russia made a big mistake in making a pact with the USA & their cohorts versus 'terrorists'... its a stacked deck


so TPTB ordered the homeland Jihadists/Terrorists/Anarchists to divert attention away from the military actions (secretly)directed by the dark-deep shadow government of globalist elites controlling our military in the middle east & elsewhere

originally posted by: St Udio
why has Manhatten Island/NYC been the sudden victim of multiple bombings...

When did this happen? And don't say 9/11, that was 15 years ago.

Remember, just because America behaves badly, it does not automatically mean Russia is a shining beacon of light and hope by comparison.

They're both slaughtering civilians. They're both behaving badly.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: ColCurious

Wow you posted a video of him agreeing to letting them bomb ISIS...so they do have the right to bomb them in Syria.

Again they aren't targeting Syrian Armed forces as agreed upon, and the fact this was an accident that happened after years of airstrikes shows they are following the guidelines set out by Syria for the US to use airstrikes against ISIS.

If the US wasn't following the rules set by Syria you would have more than just this unfortunate incident happening long before now.

Calm down.

No. The U.S. doesn't have "the right to bomb IS in Syria" at will.
This (one-time)statement by Al-Moallem regarding a certain campaign at a certain point of time (where the U.S. even acted within the set outlines... most of the time) is no reason to ignore the context (timeline!), nor the general official stance of the Syrian Gov. (or international law for that matter).

Also read my post again. I never claimed the U.S. were all-out waging war on the SAA. That's stupid.

a reply to: Painterz

originally posted by: Painterz
Remember, just because America behaves badly, it does not automatically mean Russia is a shining beacon of light and hope by comparison.

They're both slaughtering civilians. They're both behaving badly.

Absolutely right. Nor the other way around.

All this black/white/partisan-thinking and willfully ignoring the truth will lead us all nowhere but into the abyss.

This tsurfer guy is driving me crazy.

It was explain to him countless times, that the US and it's allies are trying to illegally overthrow Assad and are breaking international law for bombing Syria. On the other hand, we have Russia and Iran, who got called for assistance by Assad, the legitimate representative of the Syrian government, in order to prevent terrorists of destroying yet another country. Make no mistake, if Assad falls, Syria awaits the same fate as Libya. Which means total destruction of Syria, plus not to mention just how much more powerful will ISIS get.

And not only that. if Assad is overthrown violently by terrorists, a new immigration wave will occur, which means all of us in Europe will be even more f##ed, because the spoiled US is not happy with leaders who don't do as they say.

a reply to: ColCurious

He perfectly understands that the US-led air strikes are violative and illegal (just like 99,99% of US military interventions), he's just pushing the agenda (6 posts per day). And he also knows that his explanations are silly.

[Actually, I cannot imagine a normal (meaning without intention to shill) person who comes to a conspiracy site and pushes the MSM-like agenda. For years. 6 posts a day. Oh, #.]

So, you are losing your time arguing with him.

WHATEVER happens, some people will JUSTIFY it.

loll if it takes 40 minuts to realize that they were bombing the wrong positions...they knew it before !
just helping IS and the rebels....

R.O.T.f.L if the russians had did it the world was to small for them...
VICIOUS US.....you just can't trust them

a reply to: tsurfer2000h
2015
Assad seeks agreement over U.S. air strikes in Syria:
When asked what he would like to see from the United States, Assad said Washington should pressure Turkey not to allow money and weapons into northern Syria and "to make legal cooperation with Syria and start by asking permission from our government to make such attacks".
2015
The US-led coalition’s airstrikes in Syria are in fact illegal, as it has never received permission from Syrian President Bashar Assad to enter the country’s airspace. In response to the UK’s decision to join the bombing campaign in Syria, Assad reiterated in an interview
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2016
US Airstrikes in Syria Illegal, Counterproductive - Assad:
sputniknews.com...

Time for a Syrian / Russian controlled no-fly zone to be established and enforced via UN notification. After all, it is Syrian sovereign territory and any intruding aircraft should be attacked and fired upon, no matter who they belong to!

yes time to back off for the so called coalition...
this endless war has only loosers...
syria /Russia can deal with the remains of IS
the rebels had no chance anyway and the natural gas pipeline between quatar and Turkey will never estabilist...
how much "viet-nam's "can humanity take.....sigh
if it is only to stimulate the worlds economics....
than its and dead end road we are walking....
a reply to: Britguy