‘US is defending ISIS’: Russia convenes UNSC meeting after US coalition strike on Syrian army

originally posted by: residentofearth

originally posted by: Vector99


As much as I would like to place that blame, you just can't

Soldiers are indoctrinated to believe good guy bad guy.

It isn't their fault for being unable to distinguish the two.

They supposed to be smart and well-trained soldiers to avoid such situations.

Would You justify homicide because of media 'indoctrination'? People do push the button, people order airstrikes.

No they are supposed to be well trained soldiers that act upon orders of the higher ups.

There are several testimonies of both Russian and US soldiers "doing what they were told" only to regret it later.

In a war scenario individual conscientious actions rarely happen. You do what you are told, you shoot who you are told to shoot.

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: TheFlyOnTheWall

You can't find faults in Putin re-writing Russia's political process to keep himself in power?

People talk about western indoctrination, but, wow.

Have you been paying attention to this year's election?

Which one?

a reply to: Vector99

The #show going on in the states

What do you mean it is being played at on a political level now? I for one and damn glad that Russia has the power to demand the US answer on this before the UN. Light needs to be cast on this.

But but; Liberty and justice for all and defending our freedoms over there! My ass.

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: Vector99

The #show going on in the states

Well duh, I know that 3-ring circus.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: Vector99

The #show going on in the states

Well duh, I know that 3-ring circus.

Agreed. And if Putin was a choice on the ballot, he'd probably win.

originally posted by: lightedhype
What do you mean it is being played at on a political level now? I for one and damn glad that Russia has the power to demand the US answer on this before the UN. Light needs to be cast on this.

But but; Liberty and justice for all and defending our freedoms over there! My ass.

Yep .... People and our government seem to forget Syria is a sovereign country and Russia is defending their right to exist..... While the USA is arming and training those who wish to overthrow the Syrian government just like Libya..

It would take some serious persuasion to convince me we are on the side of right and justice..

As far as mission planning and intell Russia has offered numerous times to share intell on troop positions so that something like this could be avoided.. USA crickets...

Sickening isn't it..... Oh and might as well end with a political statement... If Hillary get the POTUS position expect more of the war mongering, regime change B.S. IMO

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Yes, it did happen, but two things to note..

The first is that the US coalition told Russia they were going to attack that area.

And second, they stopped as soon as Russia told them they had troops on the ground there.

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: Vector99

The #show going on in the states

Well duh, I know that 3-ring circus.

Agreed. And if Putin was a choice on the ballot, he'd probably win.

Sadly you are correct.

Putin 2016?

Just our President aiding and abetting his team . You know , the Jr. Varsity Team. He figured they needed some assistance .

Wasnt against Russia. Just whoever is fighting ISIS

originally posted by: lightedhype
What do you mean it is being played at on a political level now? I for one and damn glad that Russia has the power to demand the US answer on this before the UN. Light needs to be cast on this.

But but; Liberty and justice for all and defending our freedoms over there! My ass.

Were you referencing my statement?
US and Russia BOTH are making this a political situation. Neither Russia or the US give two sh!ts about the actual situation itself, or they wouldn't be endlessly bombing the area into rubble-ridden cities.

BOTH countries have done that. NEITHER country cares about the collateral damage.

It indeed is 100% politically motivated.

All of this death and destruction for yet another oil pipeline. The western military's are the oligarch's enforcers.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Is the Obama administration trying to start a war with Russia before the election in desperate hopes it will somehow scare Americans into voting for Hillary?

Sure seems like it.

Seems like it? SEEMS LIKE IT?!!!

Of course that's what hapoening. This is it. It starts now. It could be only a matter of days and you'd need your bug out bag.

Polls collapsed for Hillary in two weeks, they see the writing on the wall.

WW3 is the only solution left for Globalism, as out of the ashes of war, the UN will rule supremely.

This is BS. I am ashamed of our country in this regard.

We are helping IS. We were helping Alqueda.

These assholes are our enemies. I dont care how its strategically beneficial to F up syria.

We are helping murdering rapist thieves....Animals. Enemies of civilization and our empire....OUR ENEMIES.

Who the hell is in command of our forces? A traitor and his traitor buddies?

Ashamed. Dishonored. Low.

We suck. Russia is doing the right thing for crying out loud. WTF is wrong with these jackasses. STOP HELPING IS!!!

Makes us look like chumps.

Mistake my ass. We are liars too.

Honorless dogs is the total tally.

That is what we have become.

Thanks for making us proud. Thanks for being loyal. Thanks for being worthy of us. Thank you great leaders. Thanks for keeping our dignity and all we stand for.

I hope you all get Gaddafied.

It is stunning to see people not getting the point that this vast powerful intelligence gathering machine of the USA and its huge worldwide military machine could not distinguish between a location controlled by the Syrian Army from one controlled by Daesh/IS.

Most of the world knows that ISIS would not exist without money and resources from the USA and certain of its Middle Eastern allies. This bombing is like a cherry on top of the pile of crap created by the Obama government in its eight years of war, mayhem, and indiscriminate drone bombing killing untold numbers of civilians.

I am profoundly grateful that Russia is willing to sound the alarm on this bombing even as the USA says, 'Oops. My bad.' One thing is certain that the USA and its citizens will not hold the Obama government accountable for this bombing, and Russia sounding the alarm will fall on deaf ears that have absorbed Clinton's constant mantra of 'Blame Russia'.

originally posted by: tadaman
This is BS. I am ashamed of our country in this regard.

We are helping IS. We were helping Alqueda.

These assholes are our enemies. I dont care how its strategically beneficial to F up syria.

We are helping murdering rapist thieves....Animals. Enemies of civilization and our empire....OUR ENEMIES.

Who the hell is in command of our forces? A traitor and his traitor buddies?

Ashamed. Dishonored. Low.

We suck. Russia is doing the right thing for crying out loud. WTF is wrong with these jackasses. STOP HELPING IS!!!

Makes us look like chumps.

Mistake my ass. We are liars too.

Honorless dogs is the total tally.

That is what we have become.

Thanks for making us proud. Thanks for being loyal. Thanks for being worthy of us. Thank you great leaders. Thanks for keeping our dignity and all we stand for.

I hope you all get Gaddafied.

The military is only told they fight for us. In fact, they are privateers for the elite.

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: lightedhype
What do you mean it is being played at on a political level now? I for one and damn glad that Russia has the power to demand the US answer on this before the UN. Light needs to be cast on this.

But but; Liberty and justice for all and defending our freedoms over there! My ass.

Yep .... People and our government seem to forget Syria is a sovereign country and Russia is defending their right to exist..... While the USA is arming and training those who wish to overthrow the Syrian government just like Libya..

It would take some serious persuasion to convince me we are on the side of right and justice..

As far as mission planning and intell Russia has offered numerous times to share intell on troop positions so that something like this could be avoided.. USA crickets...

Sickening isn't it..... Oh and might as well end with a political statement... If Hillary get the POTUS position expect more of the war mongering, regime change B.S. IMO

You really need to learn about syria before you put out all kinds of false information. One the US has permission from thr Syrian govt to perform boming in Isis. No obama isn't trying to a regime change in syria. No ppint as soon as Isis is gone so will assaad even the Russian agree he has to go. As far as bombing Russia had made the same mistakes they aren't supposed to bomb anyone but Isis either. Especially not hospitals which they did in multiple occasions.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: lightedhype
What do you mean it is being played at on a political level now? I for one and damn glad that Russia has the power to demand the US answer on this before the UN. Light needs to be cast on this.

But but; Liberty and justice for all and defending our freedoms over there! My ass.

Yep .... People and our government seem to forget Syria is a sovereign country and Russia is defending their right to exist..... While the USA is arming and training those who wish to overthrow the Syrian government just like Libya..

It would take some serious persuasion to convince me we are on the side of right and justice..

As far as mission planning and intell Russia has offered numerous times to share intell on troop positions so that something like this could be avoided.. USA crickets...

Sickening isn't it..... Oh and might as well end with a political statement... If Hillary get the POTUS position expect more of the war mongering, regime change B.S. IMO

You really need to learn about syria before you put out all kinds of false information. One the US has permission from thr Syrian govt to perform boming in Isis. No obama isn't trying to a regime change in syria. No ppint as soon as Isis is gone so will assaad even the Russian agree he has to go. As far as bombing Russia had made the same mistakes they aren't supposed to bomb anyone but Isis either. Especially not hospitals which they did in multiple occasions.

All if that would matter if our moron leaders were apologizing right now, profusely.

Do you really think they are?

a reply to: dragonridr

The USA and co have not met the requirements for permission to bomb in Syria
there is no Syrian consent for attacks on its territory
The USA has only offered to Retaliate If Syria Interferes In the Airstrikes.
Obama isn't trying to a regime change in Syria? lol
Obama himself has for years asked President Assad to step down, and he is arming, training, and commanding an army on the ground to overthrow him.
The USA airfoce is bombimg Syrian industry and infrastructure to cripple the country to force him out.

Maybe they bombed the Syrian army because it was the Syrian army who waged chemical warfare on their civilians.


I wonder what the underlying motivation would be for our military to strengthen Daesh?? I dunno.