Legitimate abduction experience? Should I contact Mufon?

originally posted by: MsRose82
I am a big believer in what you've said. False Memory creation is very real but people question it. The brain is quite malleable and if in the wrong hands can be molded any which way you want, even unintentionally. I am skeptical of hypnotherapy as I don't think there is any scientific basis to prove that it works. I liken a hypnotherapist to being a remote and the patient as a TV.

OR, for a better visual-ever seen a person in church fall out in the spirit or start talking in tongues because the pastor is saying the spirit of god is here and convincing others it's happening when it is indeed not? I have.

Maybe the area of hypnotherapy has changed over the years and has gained more credibility. I haven't looked into that profession since the 90s.

Sadly, I have seen that! Sometimes, it's just hysteria, but other times, I swear the person looks possessed! Not something I'd recommend! Wild, though, to be sure!

The false memories are a real thing, though; proven in some court cases, even! Far safer to avoid.

a reply to: MsRose82

Yes your experience sounds like it could be legit. Should you contact MUFON? Short answer NO! Do lots of research please. Stay anonymous for the time being is the best advice I can give!

originally posted by: Mobius8
a reply to: MsRose82

Yes your experience sounds like it could be legit. Should you contact MUFON? Short answer NO! Do lots of research please. Stay anonymous for the time being is the best advice I can give!

Thanks! I plan to stay anonymous period. Research is the goal, hence why I am posting here. I'm easily spooked when reading up on this stuff now, used to it didn't bother me until all this crap. I tend to look things up in spurts and then take breaks from it. I'd hate to have any nightmares from it from reading too much into the subject matter.

a reply to: MsRose82

First, I believe you. What you experienced was real but contacting MUFON is not in your best interests. Listen to the advice they gave and heed it. Stay under cover, research it and find other abductees. Reach out and discuss privately.
The problem with MUFON is that they document for their own purposes but do not provide guidance for you to find closure.
Second, there is a fine line between the people who come here to add to discussions and the ones paid to distract and derail. Google: Operation Mockingbird and peruse this link.
Op Mockingbird Expansion
These individuals are found easily by their comments in which they deny belief in the subject of the post, discuss how they don't believe anything written and attempt to dissuade any further communication regarding the original line of discussion so much so that you may wonder why they bothered with it at all. Without pointing fingers, you have already experienced that in your thread here. Ignore their ignorance. They are simply doing their jobs.
I wish you well, MsRose. Things will get easier over time and the peace you seek will return slowly but surely.

originally posted by: ColdChillin
a reply to: MsRose82

First, I believe you. What you experienced was real but contacting MUFON is not in your best interests. Listen to the advice they gave and heed it. Stay under cover, research it and find other abductees. Reach out and discuss privately.
The problem with MUFON is that they document for their own purposes but do not provide guidance for you to find closure.
Second, there is a fine line between the people who come here to add to discussions and the ones paid to distract and derail. Google: Operation Mockingbird and peruse this link.
Op Mockingbird Expansion
These individuals are found easily by their comments in which they deny belief in the subject of the post, discuss how they don't believe anything written and attempt to dissuade any further communication regarding the original line of discussion so much so that you may wonder why they bothered with it at all. Without pointing fingers, you have already experienced that in your thread here. Ignore their ignorance. They are simply doing their jobs.
I wish you well, MsRose. Things will get easier over time and the peace you seek will return slowly but surely.

Thank you so much for responding. In my naivety I didn't realize the scope of all this and the things you mentioned. I've been looking into it today and I wonder if I made the wrong choice sharing my experience in such a well known spot that many people come to visit.

After re-visiting my posts a few hours after responding to various members and expounding on certain details I've come to regret being so "open" about it not realizing that there could be consequences for it since I'm not a believer "kind of" in this stuff and what you speak of here-the paid shills and what not. I've heard it from enough well meaning members to start feeling uncomfortable about it.

I clicked on the link you sent me and it took me to a FB page. I was logged into my FB as I always am when I clicked on the link and there was nothing there. I didn't like that it linked to my FB. I also don't know anything about OP Mockingbird-never heard of it but the FB redirect I was not comfortable with...

I'm not doing a very good job of that right now posting about it on here for the entire world to see and I'm second guessing participating wide open and honestly on such a public forum. I don't know who is reading this. I don't know if what I experienced was real and if it was I don't know if there are consequences for sharing what I have. Just throwing that out there cause why not?

You are right-keeping this private and discussing it with other abductees is the way I need to go. Maybe sharing it on such a public forum wasn't such a good idea in the jest of things.

I've enjoyed exploring this area and questioning everything under a microscope-and throwing out theories as to why this or that happened or if it was linked to this experience example, the radio event my husband witnessed with me regarding a person I regret talking about. I should have left that out. In fact I should have left out all of that regarding that person, everything actually except just staying vague and keeping it at " a man helped me escape the craft " instead of going into more detail and the hows and why's I got into survival and how that related to being told I had to survive, but felt at the time it would help me make sense of all of this and that maybe someone with way more knowledge if it IS all related and not the development of a mental illness ( I know it's not ) could make sense of it better than I could since I am too emotionally invested. Could use an outsiders perspective.

I am not here to play that game or to have people stifle me or what have you that have an agenda other than helping me. Think before you type is something I need to practice obviously.

So with that said, I don't think I'll be discussing this any further from my standpoint unless it's in private here with anyone who wants to message me. I've shared everything there is-there is no more I have to discuss other than just postulating about it. I was doing ok peace wise until I started the thread about it, I've been cramped up like a sore muscle since. It's been stressing me out. Thanks for telling me peace is something that will return, I know it will. I just need to stop thinking about it, that's all.

I will not talk about the survival guy-that is off limits so no questions about him please, ok? If anyone messages me, I will not talk any further on that area. I'm too uncomfortable to.

I appreciate everyone's replies-I really do.

Thank you everyone, so very much.

Ms.Rose

originally posted by: MsRose82

I am not religious in any sense of the word & a firm believer in science so sharing this is....out of my comfort zone because it goes against everything to me.

The belief that humans are alone in the universe is a religious one, so don't worry there's nothing scientific about it

originally posted by: MsRose82


Well, I won't deny that I do think there is something out there but unless I can see it with my own two eyes and feel it, while awake and not in dream land-It may be hard for me to swallow.

Our brains are probably hard-wired that way for a reason. The universe probably disagrees with my notion of "deserving answers to any conceivable question".

Our fragile little meat-cages might be like spacesuits, the helmets deliberately tuned to keep extradimensional static from driving us mad. When "sensitives" can see dead people, perhaps it's a malfunction, and using it opens you up to all kinds of real or imagined side-effects.

At some point, the church issued a blanket statement that anything in the slightest bit hokus pokus comes from a source of pure evil, and anyone seeking out such things should be burned as a witch. This dogma still exists today.

Our understanding of what these experiences might be is still so limited that we can only come up with ghosts, demons, angels, aliens, etc.

If there's more than one dimension, there's no reason to assume there aren't an infinite number of them, though - each with multi-billions of types of beings. Each with their own version of a meatsuit and helmet, filtering out the very notions of anything else existing. But of the ones whose filters allow them to see us, only x amount of them have any interest. Of those, even fewer have the means to affect anything in our nuts-and-bolts world.

You can't join this channel unless you have a suitable avatar.

I'm wandering, sorry. The one thing about your shadow person experience that jives with my theory is that the being you encountered didn't expect to be seen, so he basically had no appearance. This theory does presuppose something I read about the "astral" world and also shared-dreaming - that you must somehow choose how to appear to other dreamers/travelers.

There is a method to this meandering. I think it's possible that these manifestations could be any number of 'alien visitors', who's only limitations are the limitations of the realm itself (which are quite limiting for them). So "shadow people" are just one way that our world can be experienced/affected, and that is somehow through our dreams.

Perhaps greys aren't a "race" at all, but just a form of spacesuit, made from found fauna/flora that enables any number of otherwise formless - or perhaps simply too far away - entities to actually visit and physically interact. Maybe they're factory-farmed on a spaceship orbiting Saturn.

Maybe the tall blonde "Nordic" avatars are really expensive?

Alas, you seem to be leaving this thread so I just wanted to remark on how successful a discussion it's been. Largely devoid of the negativity I've seen around here lately. Kudos!

ALSO: my armchair observation. You've seen 'beyond the veil' for lack of a better term, and have put a lot of energy into trying to UNSEE.

This EFFORT (not what you've seen) is what is causing you conflict. Accept the multiplicity of the universe and just how freakin' bizarre your own particular vantage point is, hang on, and try to enjoy!

There are several groups that work with abductees that are professionals, they are qualified, experienced and some have had there own 'unusual' events. I personally know of several ones that have had similar events as yours and have been able to receive positive results from the organization.

Perhaps you might also.

The OPUS Network

"The sometimes disturbing nature of anomalous experiences might lead an individual to seek professional help, but because these experiences often fall outside the realm of what is considered “normal” there is sometimes a lack of professionals willing to work with these issues. OPUS has recognized the need for a clearinghouse where an experiencer can receive assistance in choosing a professional who is knowledgeable about a particular experience in question. When appropriate, OPUS refers experiencers to physicians, licensed mental health practitioners, consultants, investigators, and alternative assistance."

I rarely visit this site, but came here today to document last nights dream I had is it was rather vivid. (I rarely remember my dreams).

I was in some large house built on a top of a hill / slope, the house was old possibly timber framed, I'm not sure now but the windows and doors etc were very chunky timber frames. Anyway this house seemed intimately familiar to me and I even woke up remembering the whole floor plan / room layout of the house, which I can't remember now.

Anyway I was stood looking out of the upstairs window and looking down upon what looked like apple trees, like a forest of them, maybe an orchard but they didnt seem to be in strict rows. In the trees were wooden walkways of some-kind, almost like treehouses but just walkways no roofs or walls.

The trees were quite low down looking out the window and looking at the horizon straight ahead there was a sky full of UFOS in the distance, it was night-time but the sky had a green hue to it, the UFOs were at war and one group of them were changing color white, red and blue they were giving off immense flashes of light and making lots of strange noises.

I was very Scared the house seemed very unsafe and It really did feel like end times. I had no clue which UFOs were the good guys or if indeed either were, it was like watching two predators fight it out over who got to eat lunch. I remember some back exit of the house having broken down walls / fence panels and gate post that had fallen over as the base was rotten, this is a strange detail I remember vividly I think this was my preffered exit point.

I remember seeing a being, human looking just sat on one of the wooden walkways between the trees. I also remember walking the streets with a mob of displaced people and arguing with a lady with black hair over the events in the sky.

Thats about it. I havnt even read the whole thread yet.

i read your post and what i found interesting was your dreams/abduction experience.... my aunt which is my fathers elder sister is also a+...and she probably has some weird dreams when she sleeps in night...because she speaks in a weird voice like an old woman voice... and she speaks something sometimes crying or the last time she was here in our home she was scolding in the old womans voice saying son of a dog and screaming for the pet dog...it was amusing for me...and she was probably aware what she spoke because she asked me in the morning about calling for the dog.... and regarding the black shadow thing yeah my mother encountered it in her room it was about october 2014 or 2015 at about 2 or 3 am...she said it was a black outline with red glowing eyes about 6ft height...and i would have dismissed it completely if i wouldnt have heard the footsteps..it probably didnt show any interest towards me but it actually produced a sense of fear in me especially after hearing the footsteps but it probably escaped through the broken part of bamboo roof covering the tin ceiling of my home...i was awake at that time completely awake as i just came from the toilet and laid in the bed there was no electricity at that time completely dark and i switched off the led lamp i regret not having the led lamp with me in the bed because i would have definitely confronted it... anyways my grandfather was a military grunt during the indo-chinese war but my aunt doesnt have the characterisitic red hair or green eyes we are indians living in a small village in assam...but i believe my grandfather must have been ab+ bcoz my father is b+ and also all his four brothers but two of the brothers died when my father and a sister when she was a few months old...and as its a small village especially in india during the 60s or 70s or 80s as i dont know when they died so cant say there blood groups even they dont know the blood group of their father its just hilarious and my grandma never had any blood test done so i think she is probably o+ since a progeny is a+....anyways just a assumption...
sorry if i have gone away too much from the point... i am an occassional lurker here and i just had to comment here...anyways i hope you can solve your problems.....and get answers... and the "master" probably is referred to the masters of this world the elite 1% who actually rules this world....they were probably the creator of the hurdles hence why he had to leave you if it was completely real experience...and not a lucid dream...and besides i also had an inception dream...... a dream within a dream and some very weird dreams sometimes....anyways best of luck to you...

originally posted by: whitenight639
I rarely visit this site, but came here today to document last nights dream I had is it was rather vivid. (I rarely remember my dreams).

I was in some large house built on a top of a hill / slope, the house was old possibly timber framed, I'm not sure now but the windows and doors etc were very chunky timber frames. Anyway this house seemed intimately familiar to me and I even woke up remembering the whole floor plan / room layout of the house, which I can't remember now.

Anyway I was stood looking out of the upstairs window and looking down upon what looked like apple trees, like a forest of them, maybe an orchard but they didnt seem to be in strict rows. In the trees were wooden walkways of some-kind, almost like treehouses but just walkways no roofs or walls.

The trees were quite low down looking out the window and looking at the horizon straight ahead there was a sky full of UFOS in the distance, it was night-time but the sky had a green hue to it, the UFOs were at war and one group of them were changing color white, red and blue they were giving off immense flashes of light and making lots of strange noises.

I was very Scared the house seemed very unsafe and It really did feel like end times. I had no clue which UFOs were the good guys or if indeed either were, it was like watching two predators fight it out over who got to eat lunch. I remember some back exit of the house having broken down walls / fence panels and gate post that had fallen over as the base was rotten, this is a strange detail I remember vividly I think this was my preffered exit point.

I remember seeing a being, human lookingjust sat on one of the wooden walkways between the trees. I also remember walking the streets with a mob of displaced people and arguing with a lady with black hair over the events in the sky.

Thats about it. I havnt even read the whole thread yet.

Pretty interesting! I kind of got the feeling during my experience that there was a war going on between two races, the third one human. Your dream reminded of that. Seems that a "war" of sorts is common to dream about in this circle. I find that very interesting.

As for the human looking being, can you describe what he/she looked like? Did it have blonde hair and bright blue eyes?

The mob of displaced people is ALSO very interesting to me and lines up with a dream I had too but didn't share here, I didn't think it was linked. I too saw people in a dream, I was with a group and we were in an enclosure with barbed wire fencing in a very large field that looked to be some place you would see out west, it was flat land. I ended up escaping and after that "dream" I dreamed of the "pod" one where I was put in it and protected by something from something coming after me.

Did the mob of people almost feel like you were in some kind of concentration camp or fema camp? Or did you get the feeling it was extraterrestrials holding the humans?

Thanks!

originally posted by: dranwarren89
i read your post and what i found interesting was your dreams/abduction experience.... my aunt which is my fathers elder sister is also a+...and she probably has some weird dreams when she sleeps in night...because she speaks in a weird voice like an old woman voice... and she speaks something sometimes crying or the last time she was here in our home she was scolding in the old womans voice saying son of a dog and screaming for the pet dog...it was amusing for me...and she was probably aware what she spoke because she asked me in the morning about calling for the dog.... and regarding the black shadow thing yeah my mother encountered it in her room it was about october 2014 or 2015 at about 2 or 3 am...she said it was a black outline with red glowing eyes about 6ft height..and i would have dismissed it completely if i wouldnt have heard the footsteps..it probably didnt show any interest towards me but it actually produced a sense of fear in me especially after hearing the footsteps but it probably escaped through the broken part of bamboo roof covering the tin ceiling of my home...i was awake at that time completely awake as i just came from the toilet and laid in the bed there was no electricity at that time completely dark and i switched off the led lamp i regret not having the led lamp with me in the bed because i would have definitely confronted it... anyways my grandfather was a military grunt during the indo-chinese war but my aunt doesnt have the characterisitic red hair or green eyes we are indians living in a small village in assam...but i believe my grandfather must have been ab+ bcoz my father is b+ and also all his four brothers but two of the brothers died when my father and a sister when she was a few months old...and as its a small village especially in india during the 60s or 70s or 80s as i dont know when they died so cant say there blood groups even they dont know the blood group of their father its just hilarious and my grandma never had any blood test done so i think she is probably o+ since a progeny is a+....anyways just a assumption...
sorry if i have gone away too much from the point... i am an occassional lurker here and i just had to comment here...anyways i hope you can solve your problems.....and get answers... and the "master" probably is referred to the masters of this world the elite 1% who actually rules this world....they were probably the creator of the hurdles hence why he had to leave you if it was completely real experience...and not a lucid dream...and besides i also had an inception dream...... a dream within a dream and some very weird dreams sometimes....anyways best of luck to you...

The description sounds like a classic shadow person sighting. The ones with red eyes are commonly seen, there is also ones that are seen wearing a hat, called the hat man. Interesting you heard the footsteps!

No need to apologize for anything! Feel free to post no matter how long it is!

I thought of what the "master" meant too-and wondered myself if it was a real experience, if they meant something like that. That's interesting. This could go many ways from being meant as a spiritual guide as someone else said to being a human master/handler for the elite. I'm still stumped on what they meant by "master", until I learn more about this area I don't think I'll know what they meant.

If there are any other abductees' who have been told the same thing as me and if you have been told you cannot be taken anymore because they don't want to get in trouble with your "master", please contact me.

Thanks for the reply!

originally posted by: MsRose82
If there are any other abductees' who have been told the same thing as me and if you have been told you cannot be taken anymore because they don't want to get in trouble with your "master", please contact me.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, my visitor was told I was off limits due to his superior telling him that he had checked with the Council of Elders (which I was told had authority over our planet) and they said my work was not done here yet and that he was interfering with it. I thought at that time that it had something to do with all my "dream lessons" with an older gentleman who I took to be an angel and still do. He said it was.

Also, in reference to the blonde guy who helped you and looks like a celebrity. Well, actually that's pretty common for experiencers to describe a visitor using a well known face to help put a picture in peoples' mind, it's easier than trying to draw them, especially if you aren't an artist.

One visitor that I met looked a lot like a young Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates minus the hair mousse, I've read others saying they met one that looks a lot like David Bowie. So I wouldn't read too much into it. Your blonde guy looks like they do, that's all, they're definitely a type. Unless you think it was actually him? I've never heard of that happening, but who knows?

If you ever learn anything about the Council of Elders let me know, k?

Thanks for sharing,

MUFON might be good for tracking UFO sightings, but that's about it. They do not offer anything at all to make it worth the effort to report an abduction case to though.

With any very top level scary, real aliens seen, alien creature killed where you find artifacts and still have the alien's dead body in your freezer, then do NOT report it to MUFON. Even MUFON gets scared away from those cases because there are NO protocols for any private sector organization to deal professionally with such things.

Abduction cases are something to get a therapist who only deals with abduction cases, and one who knows that the phenomenon is real and not imagined. Otherwise you won't get an ounce of help that you need when you really need it.

a reply to: MsRose82

yeah no problem...yeah i did hear the footsteps thats what made me believe...and also i encountered a few paranormal or weird experience before...as i think i may have seen a shadow person before when i was 5 or 6 yrs old probably and i saw a shadow as it raised its eyebrows through the ventilitator like how you doing? but it could also be paredolia as well cant say it has been too long....oh yeah i forgot to mention i was sleeping one afternoon about 1 or 2 o' clock as i came home after finishing my exam i was in deep sleep but i felt some tingling sensation type near my right eye so i scratched it so the weird think is i just scratched once and when i woke up wow there were three scratches there(sorry cant provide photos it was in 2000 or something there werent any smartphiones in india back then and we are not a rich family so couldnt afford a camera and i m not crazy as even my cousin joked that i was probably trying to rape someone and even my classmates asked about it ) anyways these were like a claw marks of sorts i woke up saw in the mirror and i was pissed i wasnt that handsome too look at and these stupid claw marks i mean what the hell i thought it was a bloody ashole cat that did it but later i told my mom and she told it may have been a "dawla" which is the shadow being in assamese as i dont believe in this # so i thought it was a damn cat as the claw marks were quite near to each other besides these there was also another weird incident i was living in a rent house elsewhere and i was playing video games on my laptop then suddenly i heard a sound i checked the kitchen and i found the chapati board has fallen from the place near the stove i was startled by it a bit since i specifically kept the board in a position that it would not fall and seeing it on the kitchen floor i was like what the # i had goosebumps then my hairs on the neck and hands became straight but i dismissed it and went back to playing after putting it back up near the stove where i placed it before that was completely weird and something unexplainable how the hell does a heavy chapati board which would have been like atleast 2 kg come down automatically man world is weird nothing is as it seems...... anyways i hope you get your answers and find the master but i dont think the alien that you saw would mean something else like mother bcoz master and mother are very different words and i think he literally meant master... so i hope you find out what this master is...even its a dream there are always hidden meaning in dreams especially after my recent experiences....i can totally say dreams can also work as a warning for the future...

originally posted by: MsRose82
You are right-keeping this private and discussing it with other abductees is the way I need to go.

I have no personal knowledge about this organization, but I would like to mention it just in case it might be helpful: The Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Encounters (FREE).

originally posted by: seentoomuch

originally posted by: MsRose82
If there are any other abductees' who have been told the same thing as me and if you have been told you cannot be taken anymore because they don't want to get in trouble with your "master", please contact me.

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, my visitor was told I was off limits due to his superior telling him that he had checked with the Council of Elders (which I was told had authority over our planet) and they said my work was not done here yet and that he was interfering with it. I thought at that time that it had something to do with all my "dream lessons" with an older gentleman who I took to be an angel and still do. He said it was.

Also, in reference to the blonde guy who helped you and looks like a celebrity. Well, actually that's pretty common for experiencers to describe a visitor using a well known face to help put a picture in peoples' mind, it's easier than trying to draw them, especially if you aren't an artist.

One visitor that I met looked a lot like a young Daryl Hall of Hall & Oates minus the hair mousse, I've read others saying they met one that looks a lot like David Bowie. So I wouldn't read too much into it. Your blonde guy looks like they do, that's all, they're definitely a type. Unless you think it was actually him? I've never heard of that happening, but who knows?

If you ever learn anything about the Council of Elders let me know, k?

Thanks for sharing,

I have never heard of a council of elders. Never did see anything of that sort. The eye dream is when I think it was stopped, the one I had a "picture" of that wasn't as good of a picture as I thought it was. Wish I could remove it actually. After that, they said goodbye.

I do want to find and know more about what they meant by Master. It's the one thing I'm more curious about than anything else. It was such an odd thing to hear and to be told. I've never had such dreams like this ever. I haven't seen or had another dream of "them" since and it's been almost 2 years.

Seems like you had more in-depth contact that I did if mine was even real for that matter. I find that pretty cool. Were you given a goal like I was? I know I've already shared what that was but for those reading it that have not read the rest of the thread mine was to simply "survive" and they would come back for me and the others when it was time. They stressed the importance of me surviving. It was so stressed that I actually go into the area of survival, felt driven to do it like I had to.

The guy you mentioned isn't a celebrity, just a survival guy who got a little bit of exposure with a show. Most people don't even know who he is. I'm not sure why they would use his likeness if I had never seen him before. I didn't know who he was until after these experiences and only paid attention because he looked just like the person or "alien" rescuing us off the craft. I'll always remember it vividly. He turned to me and said to the others " who's the red head ", they just stood there like they were terrified. He walked up to me held out his hand and asked my name then said " take my hand ". I did & he separated me from the group and took me in another direction, the group he was leading were going in the wrong direction but not us, he didn't bother to tell them they were going the wrong way, seemed to care more about getting me out than the others.

No, I don't think or believe the guy I saw on the craft if real or just an awesome dream was really him. Because if it was, that'd make him an alien lol. I met the guy in person and he came across as totally human to me...... My husband say's he acted like an android and looked like one and for some reason he was paranoid after meeting him which was very unusual. He put up new curtains when we didn't have any before & got flood lights for the outside of our home too. It was odd for him to do that. He's not a paranoid guy but jeez....Funny thing is he can't tell me why he felt that way after meeting him. He just did. This went on for about a week after meeting him.

Strange, strange, strange. So you see my reluctance to go any further right? It's just too weird for me. It's ok talking about crap in dream land and exploring the idea of abductions and asking questions, because what do I know? It could be real for all I know. That's what ATS is for and about. BUT, talking about a real person....I can't. Funny thing is he doesn't feel that way now and still interacts with the guy.

So no, I don't think it was the same guy, that'd be impossible and honestly I would take myself to a hospital if I thought such. Just don't know why I'd have a good experience, told to survive, got into survival and then bam, I was hit with a horrific nightmare about the person I picked as my teacher. It makes no sense. This was at least a year before we met him so yeah, it was a long time ago.

See, this is just too odd for me to talk about. I can't anymore. I've saved the link you've sent me. Thanks so much.

MsRose82, thank you so much for sharing your story. It sounds very traumatic and difficult to share or reconcile.

The abduction program is quite diabolical in its manipulation and impact upon its victims. It makes people believe they are special at the same time that wicked violation is taking place: kidnapping, rape and genetic theft.

As I know it, the abduction program is part of an attempt by extraterrestrial forces to occupy and control our planet.

1. Abductions are mostly about breeding an overseer class, to survive on our world, and lead humans, but maintain allegiance to alien masters.

2. Leaders are being manipulated with promise of power and wealth. That's business leaders, religious and governmental.

3. Humanity is being taught to acquiesce. Through the undermining of faith in human institutions, cultivation of despair in human potential, and a spirituality of "being open to anything" our desire and ability to resist intervention is being eroded.

However! This is only known because humanity has allies—allies who will not intervene (stepping on our freedom) but have sent briefings to alert and educate us about the dangers we face.

ALL WE NEED TO DO IS RESIST.

Check it out. All the briefings are now free. Read 'em. Share 'em.

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Declaration of Human Sovereignty

originally posted by: MsRose82
I do want to find and know more about what they meant by Master. It's the one thing I'm more curious about than anything else.

Here's a link to an ATS member's thread that sheds some light on it. You have to read a bit into the thread to get to it. I recall a lot of my experiences, Egyptia recalls even more.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Seems like you had more in-depth contact that I did if mine was even real for that matter. I find that pretty cool. Were you given a goal like I was? I know I've already shared what that was but for those reading it that have not read the rest of the thread mine was to simply "survive" and they would come back for me and the others when it was time. They stressed the importance of me surviving. It was so stressed that I actually go into the area of survival, felt driven to do it like I had to.

I was told by the visitors before I met my husband that if anything clearly was going happen to our planet we would be picked up before and be taken off planet. But I felt a strong drive to learn survival techniques anyway. My son compared me to the mother in Terminator II. Even dressed like her for a bit, my husband loved that. I don't recall being told to learn it, perhaps I was told but just don't remember it.

I hope you pass your skills onto your kids as I did, my son is now passing them on to his children. I occasionally have "dream" visits from a beautiful lady in a robe in a rose garden with white marble benches and told to work closely with my grandchildren, that it is vital.

STM

The only thing that sounded similar to what I saw, the being that told me goodbye and was very sad to be saying so in the thread you pointed out was the beings from the "crystal planet" that was mentioned.

Other than that, nothing else stood out that I felt was the same.

Also, the survival world and conspiracy people tend to congregate in the same areas-for obvious reasons I will be leaving my thread in hopes it disappears.

I know I said that before but I mean it this time. I can't take a chance what I've shared gets back to that guy, I just got a bad feeling about it in my gut thinking about it.

I didn't get as many answers as I was hoping to get-I got some but this is just too much for me to take in. Never dug this deep before or tried but after all is said and done I DO think I experienced something not of this world.

I plan to follow the advice being given here by several members and go private. I hope my thread has helped others who may have felt they were alone. You are not.

And you never will be. That you can be sure of.

Thanks to everyone's replies-I will not be writing anymore in here, but will respond to private messages about the thread. I'll be posting on other sections of the forum, just not on my own thread. I can't take the chance, I don't get a good feeling about it. So I'm listening to my intuition and moving on.

Thanks again everyone for replying and taking a chance on me.

Ms.Rose