Legitimate abduction experience? Should I contact Mufon?

originally posted by: MsRose82

originally posted by: Darkmadness

originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: MsRose82

Your experience is very familiar to me. Oddly we both have the same blood type and hair and eye color Father was military. We also saw a UFO make a cloud and then disappear. My experiences though started as a child.

Blood type is really important to them for some reason I keep having that synchro happening repeatedly over and over with me.

Why is it important?

I also want to put it out there that just because I'm asking questions and talking about this-it doesn't mean I believe any of it. I'm just learning and exploring.

I sent you a message the other day if you get a chance to answer.

My Mother has O neg blood and is a very unusual person and very mysterious, we her children don't know much about her she never answers questions directly and like the other posters Mother we don't get the same answer twice and dad dies when I was 7.

Unfortunately if there is any connection to our hair and eye color to alien beings it may be to the lizard type or fallen angels where the red hair line comes from from my reading.

Yes OP thank you for sharing!

I'm of the opinion it may have been a genuine experience and that somehow it was perceived by you to be a dream.

I've been followed by UFOs for most of my life and this has led me on a journey to find out why?! I feel I have the answers..

A few things stuck out in your post to me, things innocently said too.

The red hair and green eyes is important. My daughter has red hair and yet my partner and I don't, i now realize it is recessive, as is Rh negative blood type which is also on both sides of my family.

I only recently found both of those pieces of info out (well a year ago) I now know that you can carry rh- alleles and still be classed as postive, as I do and I bet my bottom dollar you do too! Check out the blood types back to your grandparents even great grand parents. There is a reason why most abductees are of this type.

I have essentially proven with real data that RH negative blood type came from atlantis and into Western Europe, brought there by cro Magnon 36,000 years ago. CMs are either a creation or interbred descendent of the Nephilim.

So basically if you have this blood type you are a descendent of the original creation and or Nephilim. This is also my conclusion as to why They have interest in me and seemingly yourself. There is a notion to push that all UFos are alien and from far away, this is dis info and they are from a terrestrial source except they look human like and have been on planet for longer than modern humanity has, and modern humanity rh+ was created within the last 10,000 years after the flood, so essentially these Guys are a breakaway civilization living in secret isolation on this planet.

Another thing was that you was being helped or something for a coming event? This would be Planet X (check my thread for proof ofthis) so they are surely aware of this event and are securing the safety of their own progeny who may have also proven worthy to be saved whether for attitude or breeding purposes. This is how I ended up in this country I believe (guidance).

Fascinating story it has corroborated much of my research..

Oh and don't call MUFON they're a shill outlet as another poster said. PM me for any info I can help with.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: MsRose82

originally posted by: Darkmadness

originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: MsRose82

Your experience is very familiar to me. Oddly we both have the same blood type and hair and eye color Father was military. We also saw a UFO make a cloud and then disappear. My experiences though started as a child.

Blood type is really important to them for some reason I keep having that synchro happening repeatedly over and over with me.

Why is it important?

I also want to put it out there that just because I'm asking questions and talking about this-it doesn't mean I believe any of it. I'm just learning and exploring.

I sent you a message the other day if you get a chance to answer.

My Mother has O neg blood and is a very unusual person and very mysterious, we her children don't know much about her she never answers questions directly and like the other posters Mother we don't get the same answer twice and dad dies when I was 7.

Unfortunately if there is any connection to our hair and eye color to alien beings it may be to the lizard type or fallen angels where the red hair line comes from from my reading.

Wow, this is pretty interesting! I've never believed in the reptilians or even the fallen angels stuff but it's not something I'll shy away from.
Is that a real artifact you posted? If so, that's pretty cool.

Thanks for sharing!

originally posted by: EndOfDays77
Yes OP thank you for sharing!

I'm of the opinion it may have been a genuine experience and that somehow it was perceived by you to be a dream.

I've been followed by UFOs for most of my life and this has led me on a journey to find out why?! I feel I have the answers..

A few things stuck out in your post to me, things innocently said too.

The red hair and green eyes is important. My daughter has red hair and yet my partner and I don't, i now realize it is recessive, as is Rh negative blood type which is also on both sides of my family.

I only recently found both of those pieces of info out (well a year ago) I now know that you can carry rh- alleles and still be classed as postive, as I do and I bet my bottom dollar you do too! Check out the blood types back to your grandparents even great grand parents. There is a reason why most abductees are of this type.

I have essentially proven with real data that RH negative blood type came from atlantis and into Western Europe, brought there by cro Magnon 36,000 years ago. CMs are either a creation or interbred descendent of the Nephilim.

So basically if you have this blood type you are a descendent of the original creation and or Nephilim. This is also my conclusion as to why They have interest in me and seemingly yourself. There is a notion to push that all UFos are alien and from far away, this is dis info and they are from a terrestrial source except they look human like and have been on planet for longer than modern humanity has, and modern humanity rh+ was created within the last 10,000 years after the flood, so essentially these Guys are a breakaway civilization living in secret isolation on this planet.

Another thing was that you was being helped or something for a coming event? This would be Planet X (check my thread for proof ofthis) so they are surely aware of this event and are securing the safety of their own progeny who may have also proven worthy to be saved whether for attitude or breeding purposes. This is how I ended up in this country I believe (guidance).

Fascinating story it has corroborated much of my research..

Oh and don't call MUFON they're a shill outlet as another poster said. PM me for any info I can help with.

I'm still out on whether or not it was a genuine experience or just a "dream" but I'm sticking with it was all a series of "dreams" and nothing more. As for the terrestrial theory that it comes from here, earth and not some far off distant place in space, with space ships and what not I do have something to share that may be of interest. I'm not sure if this will help you with your research or plug in a few holes but I have had several dreams over the years, some dating back to being a child of being taken to an underground military base. It sounds totally cliche and like something out of a movie but I remember in the dream being taken underground on a medical stretcher. Just sharing since someone else mentioned it-thought that was interesting!

Also, speaking of my grandparents and great grandparents, I cannot. I am adopted. I was born in the emergency room as a surprise baby 3 months premature. Weighed 2 1/2 lbs when born. My mother says she wasn't aware she was pregnant and went to the hospital with abdominal pains. I was told that my father said I wasn't his but that could all be a lie in regards to what my father said. My birth and the circumstances as well as my adoption and information has been shrouded in mystery and I've been told this and that only to find out years later that wasn't true only to be given a different set of information only to find out later it too, wasn't true.

The only information I know to be correct-or so my adoptive father says it is-is the fact that he had red hair and green eyes. When I asked my dad about my father again, asking him if my dad said I didn't belong to him or wasn't his-my dad said to me " maybe you aren't" and wouldn't elaborate. I'm not saying or implying any kind hybrid stuff, I don't believe in any of it but I find it curious that a lot of abductee's seem to have been adopted like me. Pretty interesting stuff! Which is why when I had the dream or "experience" where they told me I had a place to belong, that I was "one of them" I felt happy and content. Happy that I wasn't alone? I sometimes wonder if that was due to my adoptive status, feeling alone with no family in this world.

It sounds silly but I feel like I've been abandoned in some sense. I feel extreme sorrow when I think of the last "dream" I had when I was told goodbye that they couldn't take me anymore. I don't understand why unless I ended up not meeting a criteria they were looking for, as you said since they look for certain things. But again, I'm adopted and this could be all from my subconscious and I am more inclined to believe that because it makes perfect sense. I'm still stumped on what they or my brain meant when I was told " we don't want to get in trouble with your master ". What master?

The mission given to me was to "survive" In fact, the feeling was so strong after all these dreams I actually got into the world of survival and started learning from a survivor expert. How that happened made me question the nature of fate because I don't believe in fate.

I'm hesitant to share because it's too strange for me really, this is when I cut my brain off and run the other way lol. The only thing I can say is I felt I recognized him in a sense. Christ, I'm going to just #ing say it....and then disappear afterwards but in the dream where I was "escaping" the craft, the person that took my hand and helped me escape looked like him. I highly doubt it was but the physical similarity was enough for me to take notice.I had never seen or heard of this survival expert, never knew what he even looked like until I saw him on the weather channel one day out of pure chance flipping through the channels. It froze me in my tracks & I couldn't help but watch with my jaw hanging to the floor.

Things led up to things & we actually ended up meeting this year. It's been an interesting set of events is all I can say without sounding bonkers. My husband told me that there have been a lot of "strange coincidences with this guy. I don't feel comfortable discussing it because it's a real person I'm talking about & met him by chance. Really sweet guy, very smart and knowledgeable. I've learned a lot as his long distance pupil & that's as far as I'll go. I don't have any interactions with him that are out of the norm and I actually don't interact with him as his other pupils do and for this reason. My husband joked he must be "stalking" me because of how things have lined up-but, personally if these "beings" do exist like others have said, maybe they used his image because he is a survival expert & my goal was to survive and it just tied in there some how, I dunno. I've felt I've been on the right track since getting involved in the survival stuff. Or maybe I saw him somewhere and don't remember it-the brain is an amazing machine. That makes the most sense to me. I haven't told anyone what led to my interest in survival because well....did you read that?!?
I personally think with the survival stuff being big on TV that is the explanation for this and nothing more & leaving it at that.

a reply to: MsRose82

If I were you I would go to ancestry.com and do a DNA test. If you're a close match to any families you'll hear from them. That would be a good first step. If you get no close matches then I'd wonder big time.

STM

originally posted by: Teratoma
"Just a dream"

Fine. But even if you read everything ever written about dreams since the beginning of written history - including from philosophers, psychologists, neurosurgeons and any other qualified men of science - dreams cannot be quantified.

Most of the "evidence" that exists suggests thatdreams are generated internally, that a part of our being we've decided to call the "subconscious mind" generates them, to be observed by some other part of our mind. If one CHOOSES to dismiss the experiences of those who claim to travel out-of-body or receive information externally in their dreams, that decision is just as superstitious and "faith-based" as anyone who believes in any kind of deity.
That is not to say I blindly believe anything anyone claims. The fact is, we are capable of considering the possibilities of true/false/and/or/if, and ANYTIME we succumb to a conclusion based on something that is impossible to define, that is religion, not science.

I digress from the topic. MsRose, before dismissing this as "just a dream", consider that you might not have made up your mind about just what a dream is.

TextI have a hard time with the concept of "abductions that happen on the astral plane". What messes with me about experiences like yours is that they seem to happen "between" the flesh-and-blood realm of friction and gravity AND this vague, hard to believe in "astral plane". Physical evidence. The implication that they can bend reality and time and physically take someone from an urban area without being detected is mind-boggling. Frightening. Baffling. Why? To what end?

Most would rather believe they were crazy than to face all of the new questions they would have about the foundations of their "reality". It is in our nature to be curious though, and I believe we have the right to answers if we can conceive of the questions. I truly hope you find some answers to yours!


Cheers!

Have you read everything I've written? Yeah, I'd prefer to believe I was crazy than to consider or push the boundaries of reality. This is completely new territory for me....I cannot express my anxiety and how awkward I feel typing all this inane bunk out. I never thought in a million years I'd be where I'm at discussing such a controversial topic. Especially being the person QUESTIONING my "dreams" wondering if it was something more. I've never done this before ever. I regret uploading the eye pictures because it makes me look insane but it followed a "dream" I had and being someone who thrives on physical proof since I don't believe in the astral plane or anything of the sort-the paranormal you name it, when I woke up with it it bothered me greatly because of the content of the dreams/experience? I was having at the time. It made me question the reality of my world and I even started to question whether or not there was a God which was unusual for me.

Never had an experience like this that made me question such things. Which is again why I am here. As you've said, we're curious by nature and finding answers is something humans are driven to. That's what I'm exploring with an open mind. I don't believe one way or another, just exploring here and getting out of my comfort zone which was forced upon me when I woke up with the small bruise on my eyelid. It's probably nothing related to anything I've shared here but I hope my logic as to why I've thought and questioned if it could be makes sense to those and you reading this.

I've always believed that dreams were internal, that they hold no special meaning or messages and are not from any outside source. I have dismissed the possibility but I do understand your point that to dismiss it would be paramount to being superstitious as you put it and vice versa if this were reversed.

My feeble little brain can only take in so much before it shuts down. I don't doubt that maybe there is something out there but if so, whatever it is needs to find a better way to convince or prove it's there. Whether it be God or whatever it is.

Speaking of bending reality and time which I find this area really fascinating to be honest, I saw a shadow person back in 2008-or maybe it was a lucid dream. A dream where I woke up but was still asleep. I've heard and read that those things if real do such.

I also read that scientist have re-created seeing a shadow being, or feeling like you are being watched by one by activating a certain part of the brain. They were doing research in schizophrenia and hallucinations when they stumbled upon it. The brain is an amazing machine as I've said many times-we may never know what's real or not since the waters get murky at a certain point researching it.

If it sounds like I'm back peddling I'm not but I kind of am at the same time. I wish I had been more careful with how I worded myself when I first started to post here. At the time I thought it was ok sounding but after I went back and re-read my entire thread....I'm mortified at how bonkers I sound. I've been taking my time responding now to make absolutely sure everyone understands that I'm just here to open my mind & anything I share I'm aware is most likely just my brain playing a cruel game on me but you cannot learn and explore unless you share and ask questions but it's insane to me all of this. A real mind bender LOL. It's a tough spot to be in.

If it had not been for waking up with the small bruise on my eyelid that corresponded with a dream I would not be here embarrassing myself and making myself look like a nut case. No offense to anyone that believes in all of this stuff, it's a defense mechanism on my part to feel this way. This I know.

Thanks for your reply-I doubt I'll get any answers because I don't think there are any really, except for that this was an amazing set of "dreams" that led to coincidences in real life.

It wasn't such a bad thing after all because I now know survival hacks and techniques I didn't before and that's something I never would have gotten into if it had not been for this stuff. It may just save my life one day, learning all the stuff I have since-like building a shelter, using a bow drill or making one....

So, This has led to good things for me. I'd rather just view it as that and nothing more. I don't think my feeble mind can take questioning itself for much more.

originally posted by: seentoomuch
a reply to: MsRose82

If I were you I would go to ancestry.com and do a DNA test. If you're a close match to any families you'll hear from them. That would be a good first step. If you get no close matches then I'd wonder big time.

STM

I haven't thought about doing that and the reason why is because my adoption was a closed adoption and I've always been dissuaded from trying to find out who or where my family is. I am 34 years old and haven't had the itch to find them since I was a teenager. I am quite happy with the family I do have & I'm not sure if I'm ready to open that can or worms just yet.

I didn't know you could do that on the site-thanks!

I was told I was sent a personal message-forgive me for being blind and dumb but how do I access that on here? I'm still new to the site and never did get a notification I had a personal message.

Thanks-sorry to not answering you, I never knew about it until I saw it mentioned here on the thread.

a reply to: MsRose82

Go to the top right of the page, the very top right and next to an icon of a magnifying glass you'll see an icon of a envelope. If it is white you have a message, click on it to see the message. If it is a green outline and not white you have no messages. Don't go to the wrong envelope below, go to the top, top right hand corner of the page.

STM

originally posted by: MsRose82

I haven't thought about doing that and the reason why is because my adoption was a closed adoption and I've always been dissuaded from trying to find out who or where my family is. I am 34 years old and haven't had the itch to find them since I was a teenager. I am quite happy with the family I do have & I'm not sure if I'm ready to open that can or worms just yet.

I didn't know you could do that on the site-thanks!

My husband was adopted in a closed adoption. He felt the same way as you. Then he got very, very sick and passed away. When the sickness first hit him we applied for and got the medical info file for his natural family. Too late we found out what he should've known all along. Medical history from an adoption is IMPORTANT! At the very least you should get that info, it's vital.

It's not DNA info or names but it will give you a heads up on what to watch for.

STM

originally posted by: seentoomuch

originally posted by: MsRose82

I haven't thought about doing that and the reason why is because my adoption was a closed adoption and I've always been dissuaded from trying to find out who or where my family is. I am 34 years old and haven't had the itch to find them since I was a teenager. I am quite happy with the family I do have & I'm not sure if I'm ready to open that can or worms just yet.

I didn't know you could do that on the site-thanks!

My husband was adopted in a closed adoption. He felt the same way as you. Then he got very, very sick and passed away. When the sickness first hit him we applied for and got the medical info file for his natural family. Too late we found out what he should've known all along. Medical history from an adoption is IMPORTANT! At the very least you should get that info, it's vital.

It's not DNA info or names but it will give you a heads up on what to watch for.

STM

I agree with what you said. I am so very sorry to hear about your husband .

Medical is the only thing I'd ask for and will most likely do it before the age of 40.

Hi, welcome to ATS!

Thank you for sharing your story, even though it is uncomfortable for you. I can imagine it is very helpful for others who have had similar experiences. I have seen UFOs and had one very strange 'dream' when I was younger, but that is the only one I recall of this nature. I am blond, not adopted and AB-, so don't fit the exact criteria! Dad was in the military though.
Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for sharing and yes, we can see the bruise. Don't fret about your posts! I think they are helping many people.

.

originally posted by: MsRose82

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: MsRose82

Found your thread! You could contact someone, but be cautious. Basically, don't allow someone to fuel your impressions, and make sure what you remember stays the same. There can be a tendency to a sort of group-think in cases like this. I'd recommend avoiding hypnotism, at any rate. Not reliable, and could even alter what you recall. Better, keep a journal, for the dreams, or experiences, and write, immediately upon waking, as many details as you can recall. Anything related, too, such as bedtime, foods eaten, shows watched, anything that could affect a dream, basically. Note any physical signs or oddities. Weather, even, could be a factor.

Thanks so much for your advice. I had considered hypnosis but didn't really want to open that can of worms. I've heard bad things about it in general.

Keeping a journal sounds like a good idea. I used to keep a dream journal when I was a teenager for kicks to look back on the strangest dreams I've had, since I used to be an avid journal keeper but grew out of it as a grew up.

Thanks so much for your reply!

The pictures with the indicators help to see what you want us to see but, frankly and without malice, it's no evidence. It doesn't stand out to be considered anything other than just another body mark. Other alleged abductors show what they call "scoop marks" - not impressive to say it was an alien that scooped, or a surgeon removes something from anywhere on the body but it usually turns out to be a mundane piece of glass or other debris.

You are being given negative and unfair advice about hypnosis. You don't want to go to any alien-abduction quack such as David Jacob or any non-medical hypnotist. Contact the American Psychotherapy and Medical Hypnosis Association at:
apmha.com... and ask for a referral in your city/town/state. The don't use new age blabber and will not screw around with your mind.

Remember that Barney & Betty Hill were hypnotized by Dr Benjamin Simon, a Boston psychiatrist.

originally posted by: Starcrossd
Hi, welcome to ATS!

Thank you for sharing your story, even though it is uncomfortable for you. I can imagine it is very helpful for others who have had similar experiences. I have seen UFOs and had one very strange 'dream' when I was younger, but that is the only one I recall of this nature. I am blond, not adopted and AB-, so don't fit the exact criteria!

Dad was in the military though.
Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for sharing and yes, we can see the bruise. Don't fret about your posts! I think they are helping many people.

Thanks for replying. I hope my posts are helping others. I'm glad I posted here if that is the case!

AB-? That's a pretty rare blood type. Hope you donate often

originally posted by: klassless

originally posted by: MsRose82

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: MsRose82

Found your thread! You could contact someone, but be cautious. Basically, don't allow someone to fuel your impressions, and make sure what you remember stays the same. There can be a tendency to a sort of group-think in cases like this. I'd recommend avoiding hypnotism, at any rate. Not reliable, and could even alter what you recall. Better, keep a journal, for the dreams, or experiences, and write, immediately upon waking, as many details as you can recall. Anything related, too, such as bedtime, foods eaten, shows watched, anything that could affect a dream, basically. Note any physical signs or oddities. Weather, even, could be a factor.

Thanks so much for your advice. I had considered hypnosis but didn't really want to open that can of worms. I've heard bad things about it in general.

Keeping a journal sounds like a good idea. I used to keep a dream journal when I was a teenager for kicks to look back on the strangest dreams I've had, since I used to be an avid journal keeper but grew out of it as a grew up.

Thanks so much for your reply!

The pictures with the indicators help to see what you want us to see but, frankly and without malice, it's no evidence. It doesn't stand out to be considered anything other than just another body mark. Other alleged abductors show what they call "scoop marks" - not impressive to say it was an alien that scooped, or a surgeon removes something from anywhere on the body but it usually turns out to be a mundane piece of glass or other debris.

You are being given negative and unfair advice about hypnosis. You don't want to go to any alien-abduction quack such as David Jacob or any non-medical hypnotist. Contact the American Psychotherapy and Medical Hypnosis Association at:
apmha.com... and ask for a referral in your city/town/state. The don't use new age blabber and will not screw around with your mind.

Remember that Barney & Betty Hill were hypnotized by Dr Benjamin Simon, a Boston psychiatrist.

Thanks for your honest view on the eye pictures. No, they are not the smoking gun or clear cut proof of anything but it was enough for me to question if something like this is possible considering the timing of when it appeared. I'm more likely to believe I bumped it during the "dream" and that is how it got there than an actual abduction experience but am still opened minded to consider the possibility although unlikely it seems.

As for hypnosis I don't think it would work for me honestly. I need to be able to read lips to understand what is being said & if my eyes have to be closed during a session I won't be able to understand the hypnotist and it will fail to have any effect on me.

I am hesitant to go under hypnosis-do I really want to know? I've asked myself that several times. I've heard stories of people undergoing the same only to end up traumatized for the rest of their lives, some with suppressed memories that were not related to any kind of paranormal or alien abduction event at all. I would prefer not to be one of those individuals.

What I've spoken about here-these dreams, or an an experience hasn't bothered me much. I don't have any intrusive thoughts about the subject matter, I don't think much about it at all except right now since I'm discussing it. It's been almost 2 years since and no issues that stem from it. I learned a new skill set-survival and prepping which turned out to be something I found to enjoy with my husband since he loves that kind of stuff that has bought us closer in marriage so I have no complaints over anything and I am not too pressed to undergo sessions that could end up ruining what good has come of this for me.

If I were still experiencing these things 2 years later & it's been two years since I got into the survival world as well, I would have already taken myself to the nearest doctor to be evaluated for not only mental illness but would consider hypnosis as well since I DO believe that there is a link between child sexual abuse and pervasive alien abduction dreams and although it would be difficult for me to explore that possibility, I would.

But honestly, I don't think I would be able to under go hypnosis with the hearing issue I have.
Don't feel like I need it since whatever got crossed upstairs if that's the case or not-has stopped.

Thanks for the reply! I've saved the information you've provided for me.

a reply to: Starcrossd

I also wanted to add after replying that I don't want others to feel like they cannot share any of their stories. Please feel free to do so! I may be questioning my own experience but I have no place to question yours because it is your experience and yours alone. Who am I to say you didn't have it?

Live and Let Live is my motto.

I don't want anyone to feel like because I keep going back and forth over my own experience, was it real? Am I crazy? It was just a dream most likely statements to affect you from posting your experience. Don't let my questioning nature do so.

Post away and thanks for doing so, hope this helps anyone reading this thread.

I would contact CE4 Research Group. Their testimonials page from other experiencers are similar to yours and many have found a way to stop the abductions

a reply to: MsRose82

I would contact a reputable hypnotist, and see if s/he can dig out the event from your subconscious. If both you and your husband see someone separately, you can then compare the results and decide what to do from there.

I've read a number of books by Budd Hopkins and other abduction investigators, and this would be their recommendation.

Good luck...

a reply to: MsRose82
Maybe a bit blunt to say this because why would you contact MUFON, not that I say it aint a good cause but I've had many sightings until today. Two days ago I've seen a red orb passing my house . I don't even bother filming them anymore.

Maybe one day registration will have significantly effect on the media ,but for now I've got my doubts sometimes .. and maybe they do achieve more then we know?

There are threads in my profile page that have even video what I filmed and my recent trumpet sound also can be contribute to the anomalies.

I frankly don't know if I've ever been abducted , but I think it has ,but I it doesn't bother me at all . I'm O negative bloodtype as they call it here . I'm recently diagnosed with HDD/ADD,so I might fit the profile.

My wife is getting nuts if I point out another sighting ,so I'm also ignoring those now.

But I understand her.. for people who doesn't have the experience can't hardly believe it's happening.

In time you've learned to coop with that ,there's nothing you can do about it imo,only to think that it's happening to some or many..

Try to go on with life as it was and sometimes spew your stories out here for ventilation. .